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Old 25th Aug 2005, 08:27
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Mr8 you r correct , those greedy bastrds work there arses off at the expense of the whole pilot body , well never get good rosters at this rate.
Lifestyle is not a requirement for a slave .
If we got paid properly we wouldnt need overtime.
Anyway whats the point of being the richest dude in the cemetary or being buried in a golden casket .
We should all stick together on this but that would be industrial action wouldnt it............
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Old 25th Aug 2005, 10:23
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Was that a proposal
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Old 25th Aug 2005, 12:42
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Well, it's the closest to a call for ''down tools" as I have heard...

Not one item on my roster that I bid for either. More to the point, since the 'month of reserve duty' was implemented, why are we getting AD days at all?

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Old 25th Aug 2005, 13:10
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and why are days off refused in the top bid month, as top bids, whereas the same days go to another bloke as ad's!!!!!
it's a complete disaster, for the individual and for the company on the long run.
 
Old 27th Aug 2005, 12:07
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Come on guy's this is getting ridiculous, instead of blocking all our inboxes with swap requests, lets send them to our Chief Pilot to sort out. That will give him something to do. Has anyone actually had anything resembling what you bid for? This system is not working!
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Old 27th Aug 2005, 14:03
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is the salary that bad in EK ??around 5000 usd for F/O is low ?
what can i say for what i am getting now 1700 USD for 100 hours or more a mounth ...
Either i get that or goodbye aviation

i wish i was in a more lucky situation
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Old 27th Aug 2005, 14:50
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you're simply on the wrong thread mate.
to all of you who think ek pilots are ungratefull, having a superb
job, hugely paid, and that bitching about rostering is luxury:
if one bids for a flight or, more importantly, days off and one does not get it - fair enough if there would be a serious reason to it. but if someone else gets this flight, or days off when he'd rather work or fly elsewhere and this specific someone placed his bidding accordingly - something is desperately wrong! either there is a scary level of incompetence, which cost the company a load of money and the employees and their families a lot of nerves, or there is a plan behind it all.
 
Old 27th Aug 2005, 14:56
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i can understand you tutleneck but what would you think if you were in my position ....don't even have right to take holidays from march until end of october it s really hell whatever you can tell guys about Emirates i am well sure it is better that what i am suffering here....
1700 bucks for 110 hours geeee....you have to do it !
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Old 27th Aug 2005, 16:01
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Montari

Sorry that you have to deal with 110 hrs a month flying in Afirica, but we all have to get some experience under our belts before moving on to the next phase.

Before you start to slag me, I also have been where you are now, and I can say that every ex-pat at Emirates also has been there.

If you do not want (need) to work for the present co., then now is the time to move on to somewhere else.
Things are starting to look better for pilots as a group.

Companies are getting A/C and need warm bodies to fill them.
Your time will come, and I for one hope that it does, as that will bode well for us all.

Qatar has already found that it is very difficult to recruit pilots to the MidEast, and EK also has the same problem.
Jobs are opening up thru out the industry.

So enough about how bad things are in Africa, we know that.
Get on with your career.
Either there or elsewhere
Do not complain about how bad things are on this site.
I for one have been there, and don't care to listen to more wineing (whinging)!

Good luck
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Old 28th Aug 2005, 03:57
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what is the point

Another month of wasted time bidding, the roster swap group gets busier every month it’s the only good thing about the rostering and EK had nothing to do with it.
Have leave, so no days off before and the one legal day off after. 98 hrs under the old credit system but none under the new system.
O well at least I can go on the 10th and be told how good it is!!!!!
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Old 28th Aug 2005, 20:20
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What Scheduling System DOES EK Use??

Hi All,
This one's a 'sitter'...

If ANYONE knows what 'system' EK uses for crew scheduling then please let the rest of us mere mortals know.

From what I've seen/experienced/suffered in my time here the answer would have to be a barely capable computer-based bidding system whose output is so f*@ked with afterwards by people with no understanding or interest as to be barely recognisable as an AdOpt roster.
This roster, of steadily deteriorating quality, is then 'endorsed' by a spineless and sycophantic Flt Ops (mis)management team. Am torn between staying away on the 10th and not getting any satisfactory answers or going along and NOT GETTING ANY SATISFACTORY ANSWERS!!!

Rant Over And Out
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Old 28th Aug 2005, 22:06
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Same **** different thread.
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Old 29th Aug 2005, 08:17
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Hey "The Real Pink Baron" EK is not like the good old easy money days at DHL and The Airwing!

Was your Hash name given to you for sailing too close to the wind or for something else?
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Old 29th Aug 2005, 23:35
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Bidding system is for the company

Bidding System For the company not for pilots. Its plain to see really. All AB CA Rostered over 90 hrs and min days off (9) for september with no open trips.
No rostering system in the world can give any kind of choice under those conditions!!
Time to do some hiring! I hear its going to get worse before it gets better.
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Old 13th Sep 2005, 03:59
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It seems the bidding system at EK is far from where it should be,however,from an Aussies perspective,how many of you guys (on the 777)bid for and actually get Aussie trips?
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Old 13th Sep 2005, 04:55
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Cool,

Dont even start thinking about it. Stay in your own country where you have rights, pay the tax and live with NORMAL people.
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Old 13th Sep 2005, 05:14
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RP,

Check your PM's mate.
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