Changes at ETIHAD?
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Hope the new CEO gets rid of the italian G.E. who was in Lauda Italy then Alitalia where he got kicked out after a few months and then was taken back in Lauda. They should check his logbook everybody in Italy knows that he was an ATC and not an AF pilot.
He can't get a job in italy anymore that's why he ended up here.
He can't get a job in italy anymore that's why he ended up here.
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Well I thought that they should rid themselves first of that Omani Scholar, who only left behind him a trail of deceipt and chaos while he was in Bahrain.
I was shocked to find out that he was taken on by Etihad, he is an ignorant, lying pretentious xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, with a record of corruption like no other, ask anyone in Gulf Air.
I'm getting tired of cleaning up posts littered with gutter language. Your first & last warning. Welcome to the forum. 4HP
I was shocked to find out that he was taken on by Etihad, he is an ignorant, lying pretentious xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, with a record of corruption like no other, ask anyone in Gulf Air.
I'm getting tired of cleaning up posts littered with gutter language. Your first & last warning. Welcome to the forum. 4HP
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It is very impressive the absolute abscence on this Forum of any objective and unbiased plain information regarding EY T&Cs and howgozit being at there.
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Fullforward;
So many of the folks at EY are from dodgy backgrounds, that no one dares open their trap for fear of being shown the way.
If any astute choice was made in recent weeks it certainly is in the selection of RS. He will undoutedly put an end to the Gulf Air/Volare way of doing things and usher in the material and know how EY should be made of.
At this stage all I can do is wish him luck in his endeavour, him and a few others who have been true to the aspiration of the airline deserve a well needed break to make their impression.
I would stay posted and watch as the program unfolds.
So many of the folks at EY are from dodgy backgrounds, that no one dares open their trap for fear of being shown the way.
If any astute choice was made in recent weeks it certainly is in the selection of RS. He will undoutedly put an end to the Gulf Air/Volare way of doing things and usher in the material and know how EY should be made of.
At this stage all I can do is wish him luck in his endeavour, him and a few others who have been true to the aspiration of the airline deserve a well needed break to make their impression.
I would stay posted and watch as the program unfolds.
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Ahh....we can all breathe a sigh of relief..Thankgod those two are gone. Shame a few of their friends are still hanging around..Won't be long now though..
Perhaps its time to start looking at the Cabin Crew department management??? There are a few space wasters there,that's for sure..
New VPO was an excellent choice!!
Perhaps its time to start looking at the Cabin Crew department management??? There are a few space wasters there,that's for sure..
New VPO was an excellent choice!!
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People say the new VPO is a nice guy to work with, but in reality what are people going to say when they are worried for there jobs and the VPO got his posting in a pretty downright ruthless way instigated by himself and 2 others.
Only time will tell whether it was a power struggle just for the trophy title or if his interests are actually in the airline.
Not even one public word for the work WB and GR have done for Etihad. I do think that was a bad show on the CEO and Flt Ops department. They seem to have forgetten the work that they actually did do and have just focused on old stewing rivileries. The way it was handled is also a nice clear indication as to the ruthlessness of the new CEO and upper management. If they can remove a VP and his deputy in less then 24 hours without anything more then an email stating one has resigned for better opportunities and being replaced effective immediately and no mention of his deputy going shows nothing but a lack of class.
As much as many people didn't think much of the two who have left, Etihad handled it very poorly, which like I said gives a wonderful insight as to how the CEO operates.
I don't think it necessairly means a bright and rosey future for Etihad. To me it looks as though it will be the same sh*t different pile.
Only time will tell whether it was a power struggle just for the trophy title or if his interests are actually in the airline.
Not even one public word for the work WB and GR have done for Etihad. I do think that was a bad show on the CEO and Flt Ops department. They seem to have forgetten the work that they actually did do and have just focused on old stewing rivileries. The way it was handled is also a nice clear indication as to the ruthlessness of the new CEO and upper management. If they can remove a VP and his deputy in less then 24 hours without anything more then an email stating one has resigned for better opportunities and being replaced effective immediately and no mention of his deputy going shows nothing but a lack of class.
As much as many people didn't think much of the two who have left, Etihad handled it very poorly, which like I said gives a wonderful insight as to how the CEO operates.
I don't think it necessairly means a bright and rosey future for Etihad. To me it looks as though it will be the same sh*t different pile.
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Flybyu, You have obviously been on a planet far far away for the last year or so, so I forgive you.
The new VPO and his team have finally given Etihad a chance at the future that this airline should always have had. They are a good bunch of people with nothing but the ultimate aim if making Etihad a true global player, with a reputation to match.
You mentioned that WB and his deputy had gone, was his deputy not HW, and he is still here.
GR was just a guy who was out of his depth swimming with the big fish, its a shame people have to lose their jobs, but for the benifit of Etihad its best in this perticular case.
How was it you would have liked EY to have handled the change, maybe sent out a ballot and we the troop could vote to power our new leaders? No really going to happen.
finally you also seem upset that they did not publish the two dearly departed's list of good things, if indeed they do publish this should they also publish all the bad and illegal stuff they (may!) have do too? I assume you dont want that list?
Maybe the "lack of class" is damming these people, as you seem to do, within 24 hours of there appointment, they deserve our full support, the only way was up.
To suggest its the same old same old strikes of someone who is badly informed.
The new VPO and his team have finally given Etihad a chance at the future that this airline should always have had. They are a good bunch of people with nothing but the ultimate aim if making Etihad a true global player, with a reputation to match.
You mentioned that WB and his deputy had gone, was his deputy not HW, and he is still here.
GR was just a guy who was out of his depth swimming with the big fish, its a shame people have to lose their jobs, but for the benifit of Etihad its best in this perticular case.
How was it you would have liked EY to have handled the change, maybe sent out a ballot and we the troop could vote to power our new leaders? No really going to happen.
finally you also seem upset that they did not publish the two dearly departed's list of good things, if indeed they do publish this should they also publish all the bad and illegal stuff they (may!) have do too? I assume you dont want that list?
Maybe the "lack of class" is damming these people, as you seem to do, within 24 hours of there appointment, they deserve our full support, the only way was up.
To suggest its the same old same old strikes of someone who is badly informed.
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Everyone knows in Flt OPs GR ranked higher then HW, hence the deputy. Apparently HW will be staying on by invitation of the CEO.
How was it you would have liked EY to have handled the change, maybe sent out a ballot and we the troop could vote to power our new leaders? No really going to happen.
== I never mentioned anything about casting votes, the only thing I thought was done in poor taste was the message the company has sent out to the company as a whole and its affiliates as to how a highly visible position of VP leaves with no thank you from the company. I have seen others leave also on bad terms but the company always had enough tact to thank someone for there services via an all company email. The image given by the CEO's office over this matter has actually upset a fair number of people and also worry a lot of people within the company who are not insiders in the politics involved. 98% of the work force has no idea of the internal politics of upper management and the CEO has just come off looking basically like a tyrant.
The CEO has been around for longer then 24 hours. I am not damming anyone. Not the new VPO, he hasn't been around long enough for anyone to draw conclusions.
My post is more about how the CEO has conducted himself and his image to the company with how it was all handled. He just didn't come out looking like the wonderful approachable, open CEO he claimed in his welcoming as you must also remember even though you pilots are essential to an airline you are not the only department and his image goes across the whole company. so while one department maybe be very pleased there is actually about 10 otherdepts where alot of us people are saying WTF just happened.
Either way karma has a funny way of sneaking up on people.
How was it you would have liked EY to have handled the change, maybe sent out a ballot and we the troop could vote to power our new leaders? No really going to happen.
== I never mentioned anything about casting votes, the only thing I thought was done in poor taste was the message the company has sent out to the company as a whole and its affiliates as to how a highly visible position of VP leaves with no thank you from the company. I have seen others leave also on bad terms but the company always had enough tact to thank someone for there services via an all company email. The image given by the CEO's office over this matter has actually upset a fair number of people and also worry a lot of people within the company who are not insiders in the politics involved. 98% of the work force has no idea of the internal politics of upper management and the CEO has just come off looking basically like a tyrant.
The CEO has been around for longer then 24 hours. I am not damming anyone. Not the new VPO, he hasn't been around long enough for anyone to draw conclusions.
My post is more about how the CEO has conducted himself and his image to the company with how it was all handled. He just didn't come out looking like the wonderful approachable, open CEO he claimed in his welcoming as you must also remember even though you pilots are essential to an airline you are not the only department and his image goes across the whole company. so while one department maybe be very pleased there is actually about 10 otherdepts where alot of us people are saying WTF just happened.
Either way karma has a funny way of sneaking up on people.
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Those of you in doubt, WB wasn't Kosher material.
To be let out so quickly is not a matter of choice for him considering the integrity the organisation has to keep.
Etihad cannot do with the liability of individuals of the like of WB and some others like AY who are still in.
The situation although only recently has shown tremendous improvements, and EY is becoming a choice airline to work with.
Employees are finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel and the smiles are back on the faces....
I also reckon that it has now, beyond the flash of press spin, become a contender on the market provided the CEO clears up on the admin and commercial side as well some of these parasites that have no other job than to disturb development and implementation. To name but a few the LSG waster and his Indian X-EK Cronie who are both appointments EY, thanks to SAS will come to regret if it has not already.
I say cheers to RS and I am sure many of you will join me in wishing our EY colleagues best of luck in their future as a real airline!
To be let out so quickly is not a matter of choice for him considering the integrity the organisation has to keep.
Etihad cannot do with the liability of individuals of the like of WB and some others like AY who are still in.
The situation although only recently has shown tremendous improvements, and EY is becoming a choice airline to work with.
Employees are finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel and the smiles are back on the faces....
I also reckon that it has now, beyond the flash of press spin, become a contender on the market provided the CEO clears up on the admin and commercial side as well some of these parasites that have no other job than to disturb development and implementation. To name but a few the LSG waster and his Indian X-EK Cronie who are both appointments EY, thanks to SAS will come to regret if it has not already.
I say cheers to RS and I am sure many of you will join me in wishing our EY colleagues best of luck in their future as a real airline!
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What a stupid thing to say,why should people be afraid about losing their jobs.The new VPO is a rare breed in etihad with an excellent background.As far as expecting a eulogy to sing the praises of WB,GR then you must be trulymad.WHY on earth would anyone think they will be a loss to Etihad.Walk into any ops building now,the atmospher is no longer one of intimidation and i am sure that i amnot theonly person to feel that.Also FLYNBYU I am not afraid about losing my job,why should I be?as i havent done anything to be afraid of(perhaps you have?RS has done well so far and has made a good choice with CC.Although i must say the theory about a conspiracy was very funny,have you not been reading pprune for the last few months?Anyone reading the threads associated with Etihad wasl left in no doubt that changes were imminent .WB knew what was coming,how could he not?He and GR and HW made their beds!Good luck to the new ops team.
What a stupid thing to say,why should people be afraid about losing their jobs.The new VPO is a rare breed in etihad with an excellent background.As far as expecting a eulogy to sing the praises of WB,GR then you must be trulymad.WHY on earth would anyone think they will be a loss to Etihad.Walk into any ops building now,the atmospher is no longer one of intimidation and i am sure that i amnot theonly person to feel that.Also FLYNBYU I am not afraid about losing my job,why should I be?as i havent done anything to be afraid of(perhaps you have?RS has done well so far and has made a good choice with CC.Although i must say the theory about a conspiracy was very funny,have you not been reading pprune for the last few months?Anyone reading the threads associated with Etihad wasl left in no doubt that changes were imminent .WB knew what was coming,how could he not?He and GR and HW made their beds!Good luck to the new ops team.
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So where from here???? There will need to be quite a few more kicked out yet!!! He has a very large task ahead of him yet.... Get rid of Cabin crew management (all) of them, they do not know what is going on, and they are the hold up of progress, and how the crew feel on line... As to the so called Line supervoisors, well the old VPO picked them out, as his bit of fluff, and they got away with bule murder...provided they did what he wanted them to do...
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I will second Wallflower in adding indeed that the new team is what Etihad needs, subdued, effective and experienced with a reputation to match. Not one of these attributes would have closely fitted anyone on the WB team. and to those of you still in doubt, WB wasn't Kosher material.
To be let out so quickly is not a matter of choice for him considering the integrity the organisation has to keep.
Etihad cannot do with the liability of individuals of the like of WB and others like AY in finance who is still in.
The situation, although only recent, has shown tremendous improvements, and EY is becoming a choice airline to work with.
Employees are finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel and the smiles are back on the faces....
I also reckon that it has now, beyond the flash of press spin, become a contender on the market provided the CEO clears up on the admin and commercial side as well some of these parasites that have no other job than to disturb development and implementation. To name but a few the LSG waster and his Indian X-EK Cronie, and that faggot in staff travel, some appointments EY, thanks to SAS and his abysmal vision will come to regret sooner or later.
I say cheers to RS and I am sure many of you will join me in wishing our EY colleagues best luck in their future as a real airline!
To be let out so quickly is not a matter of choice for him considering the integrity the organisation has to keep.
Etihad cannot do with the liability of individuals of the like of WB and others like AY in finance who is still in.
The situation, although only recent, has shown tremendous improvements, and EY is becoming a choice airline to work with.
Employees are finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel and the smiles are back on the faces....
I also reckon that it has now, beyond the flash of press spin, become a contender on the market provided the CEO clears up on the admin and commercial side as well some of these parasites that have no other job than to disturb development and implementation. To name but a few the LSG waster and his Indian X-EK Cronie, and that faggot in staff travel, some appointments EY, thanks to SAS and his abysmal vision will come to regret sooner or later.
I say cheers to RS and I am sure many of you will join me in wishing our EY colleagues best luck in their future as a real airline!
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What about that man who is always walking around with his hands in his pocket and the red spot on his forehead?
Seems to have nothing to do apart from waiting for providence to appear in the form of the boot.
Before 2 pm pls!
Seems to have nothing to do apart from waiting for providence to appear in the form of the boot.
Before 2 pm pls!