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Old 8th Jun 2004, 08:29
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hey guys the reason air india cant find DEC for their fleet from the locals is because they are the only guys to fly the said types .namely the 744 and the 310 in the country.yes if they want 320 or 737 guys they might some.
and its good that they are for the first time realising the need for DECs .
i think they will be based at london or newyork.
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Old 8th Jun 2004, 12:26
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Please keep this touchy thread going the right way. Any more about beads & it's going in the bin.

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Old 8th Jun 2004, 15:49
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Whats beef & beads got to with a job in AI !
As for what I said earlie you wil get a hostile cockpit ever since the IPG was disbanned by the union busters & the govt. the teamsters are waiting with heavy grease and broom sitcks, if you been to Abu Gharib you know what i mean.
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Old 8th Jun 2004, 17:11
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Good 'ol Air India...
At a recent written exam call, there were 850 candidates for 40 trainee pilot positions ( all at least CPL / ME rated, some ATPL with thousands of turbine time ) and 51 passed the initial exam....I dunno how many got through the Personal interview and subsequent sim ride but it's quite likely they couldnt fill even the 40 seats.....
The exam IMHO was not the toughest,but with negative marking and the ever confusing choices , reminded me of the typical Indian board exams.....well I think they need to start hiring pilots the way most international airlines do .....oh well...

In the meantime they'll be needing DEC and hey I guess there's not many guys with time on type they can upgrade , o good on those folks who do get it and best of luck....
hey mustang V8, I believe that mr .mcrew's really trying to wind you up and succeeding, just ignore the guy.....my two cents worth....people like him are a minority and most pilots I know go to great lengths to study about the culture and practices of the country they plan to work in and avoid cultural stereotyping....
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Old 8th Jun 2004, 18:39
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I heard some of the guys that got thru the written, had some issues during the medical, hence the posting for more trainee pilots, another 40-odd.

my guess is, there r so many pilot applicants in India when a posting is made and obviously so many show up, that there has to be a tough screening process to weed out the 'mediocre' bunch who may have had a good shot at it if things were different, eg not as much govt. regulation------>more aviation outfits allowed to operate. I dont know, just thoughts.

masalama, I appreciate the sobering words but i couldn't help myself at the time. I agree, he is part of the minority.

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Old 11th Jun 2004, 14:38
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Hi all,

have just gone and read the air india web page concerning employment and on the trainee pilot section I was a little confused about the meaning of the following. "nationals belonging exclusively to the schdual caste, scheduled tribe, other backward class commonuity" They only seem to be taking a certain amount of people from each section.... what do these sections relate to? Thanks in advance for any answers... LE
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Old 11th Jun 2004, 19:58
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...interesting

Does this mean you have to be a certain caste to be an FO?

And what about the capts?? Are they a higher caste?

How would that work then, regarding promotion?? As a low-caste FO do you have to wait to be reincarnated into a higher-class caste before moving into RHS???

And what about us non-hindus with only ONE shot at life?

Sounds like a long haul...
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Old 12th Jun 2004, 04:22
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Air India is owned by the government of India. And government of India rules stipulate that certain number of vacancies be filled up with suitably qualified candidates from the socially backward communities. There is now apparently a huge backlog of such vacancies for which another attempt is made to see if qualified candidates are available.

Now before Muttley and company again takes off, let me tell you the word is "suitably qualified". No exemption is made on the entry standards obvously. If you have any doubts check out the safety record of the airline concerned - the last major accident was in 1985 off Shannon and that particular one had nothing to do with any deficiency from the airline's operations side.

Every country has its rights to put the interests of its own nationals first in what ever way they may deem fit. And this the same almost everywhere- not just in India! For eg students from India (and from anywhere outside the EU) pay on a average 4 to 5 times the tution fees the EU folks pay in most Briitsh universites !

NB : By the way the president of India is a Muslim, the prime minister a Sikh and the leader of the biggest political party a christian - so dont worry too much on the Hindu issue!
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Old 12th Jun 2004, 07:24
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RSOMAN ROCK ON ! are u AI or 9W ?
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Old 12th Jun 2004, 11:41
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Does anyone know about the ICAO ATPL conversion towards an Indian one ?!?!
People seem to be confused about if there is a written or not ?!?!

What about this RTR c**p.... automatically obtainable on ATP conversion or one shall thy go through the dreadfull "How does a tube-light work ?" exam !!

One must really wonder if the interview team is reading this thread.... Wouldn't that be exciting for them to find out who we all are !! I think I'm safe... but who knows what offends who these days !! Particularly in Aviation ..... "Ferkin Hell - - Hope they do !!"

Ah....by the way my choice of curry shall be the Madras one Yummo

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Old 12th Jun 2004, 17:43
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Don't get me wrong guys, I'm not complaining about hindu vs whatever. Just seeking enlightenment about the DEC process.

In fact I reckon I have a better shot at it than most anyway since reincarnation obviously runs in my family:

You see my uncle died and in the last life and experienced ReinTarnation... Yeah he came back as a hill-billy...

Should be a shoe-in at the interview.

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Old 13th Jun 2004, 16:18
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Just looking for info and Masalami. has to go and say something like that about his own mother. Not very nice. Maybe it got lost in the translation. Too many “Terrys” out there.

But since YOU started it, I have a joke for you:

knock knock
who's there???
Terry....
Terry who??
Teri maa ko sau kutte chode - sau wa tera baap!

Or was it…Teri ma ki chut mai sabka lund??? Or Teri ma ki choot me hathi ka dum (for the “space cadets” in search of it all).

I just LOVE Hindi.

PS Nyokap lo pembokat, Muka jamban.
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Old 13th Jun 2004, 18:31
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hey masalama, that was pretty funny dude. looks like u hit a nerve with muttbag.

waz up mutt, didn't u find it funny??

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Old 13th Jun 2004, 21:44
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Surrounded by indians…. now I know how Custer felt.................................

I'll leave it to your imagination as to how this post carried on. Way over the top Muttley. Xenophobia & cultural intolerance exhibited by blatant slanging of other cultures will not be tolerated on this site.

Take a trip to the cooler Muttley

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Old 14th Jun 2004, 08:32
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What the ferk in the Earth is going on here !!

Just as well there is moderator to catch things before it gets out of hands and the whole thing becomes another amateur nerd house !!

Still no one has answered my question though which shall be of use to others too, may be too busy bashing each other... are we

ICAO Atpl -> DGCA Atpl... Is there a written or just a interview sort ??!! Thanks in Advance

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Old 14th Jun 2004, 09:37
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Never mind.....

Found it myself off another source.... For anyone interested

3.2.3 For issue of an Airline Transport Pilot's Licence (Aeroplane/ Helicopter), the applicant shall have to pass the written examination conducted by CEO in the following two papers as per the prescribed syllabus:

(i) Air Regulations; and

(ii) A composite paper for Airline Transport Pilot's Licence on Air Navigation, Avionics (Radio Aids and Instruments) and Aviation Meteorology.

In addition to the above written examination, the applicant for ALTP licence shall have to pass an oral examination as stipulated in para 1(d) of Section M, or Section N, of Schedule II of the Aircraft Rules, 1937, as the case may be.

3.3 Additional Requirements for Issue of Commercial Pilot's Licence and Airline Transport Pilot's Licence

3.3.1 The applicant shall obtain a Certificate of Proficiency from the Ministry of Communications under the provisions of Indian Wireless and Telegraphy Rules, 1954 for operation of Radio Telephony Apparatus on board an aircraft. Based on this, a Flight Radio Telephone Operator's (FRTO) Licence will be issued by DGCA in accordance with the provisions of Section 'Y' of Schedule II of the Aircraft Rules, 1937.

3.3.2 The applicant shall also have to pass Signals (Practical) examination for interpretation of signals as per the prescribed syllabus.


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Old 14th Jun 2004, 14:24
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Poor Muttley Crew: "Surrounded by indians…. now I know how Custer felt.................................


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Old 14th Jun 2004, 17:45
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vandemr,

thats perfect for muttbag...is that from 'the far side'?


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Old 16th Jun 2004, 13:16
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hey mustang thanks man ...thought that was pretty funny too...poor mutt ...poor chap wants to work for Air India and already complaining ..." surrounded by Indians...".... a taste of what's to come , I presume....
OK... the conversion exams for the DGCA ATPL are quite similar to the CPL conversion exams .. but you need to meet the requirements( aeronautical experience) of the Indian ATP plus, the ATPL can only be issued on a multi engine aircraft, no single ATP's anymore... yep and the R/TR can be converted from CANADA/UK..not sure of S.Africa or AUS/NZ??????

Here's another one from a friend...

Knock Knock...
Who's there???
Bolana...
Bolana who????
Bola Na teri ma ki.......

cheers everyone and Jai Hind.....
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Old 16th Jun 2004, 18:01
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masalama,

yeah, mutt's a moron.

anyway, u read my mind about the conversion process. where do u have to go for the ATP multi check ride? outside of delhi?

R/RT, u mean the FRTO? I have an FAA RTO, is that transferable?

thanx, man, jai hind!!
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