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Air Arabia - all you need to know about it (threads merged)

Old 16th Nov 2007, 08:32
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Thumbs up Air Arabia ab-initio interview

i am having an interview with air Arabia in few days and it’s the first interview for me please some one help me.
What to expect for the interview?


Thanks

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Old 16th Nov 2007, 15:00
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all119 u r in

Dude, with your english writting ability and composing a message, I have to say you are in! Dont worry that much about the interview.
The company would not have to send you for a Level 4 ICAO test either.
Goodluck
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Old 16th Nov 2007, 16:54
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'The company would not have to send you for a Level 4 ICAO test either.'


...that will change come March, 2008! ICAO english writtens will be mandatory.


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Old 27th Nov 2007, 15:54
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Air Arabia

Has anyone been invited to AA December interview?
May I get some help from others who been to the AA interview on what to study.
Thank you
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Old 10th Dec 2007, 17:20
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I guess you were the only one.
Good luck!
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Old 12th Dec 2007, 17:24
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AA

No I have not been invited, if you read the website you will see when interviews are taking place.
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Old 18th Dec 2007, 14:53
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Joining Air Arabia Ab Initio With A320 Type Rating

Hello gentleman could anyone let me know if air arabia recruits abinitio pilots with CPL/IR/MULTI AND A320 type rating without any hours on type.

Iam not a national/gcc or in house employee . Do I stand a chance??? or how long does a employee has to work to qualify??

Thanks in advance.
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Old 23rd Dec 2007, 18:45
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Did anyone go to AA December interview? If yes may you please pm me as much info about the interview, questions asked in the interview, tec exam, personility test and sim flight, thank you.
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Old 24th Dec 2007, 06:09
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How do you plan on studying for the "personility" test??

Good luck!
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Old 3rd Jan 2008, 07:15
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Hi guys, Ive been following this AA thread and there's a lot of good info in here, thanks...

Just got a quick question regarding housing, did any of the pilots bought a flat/Villa in Dubai?

Is it possible for a foreigner to own a house? Do the local banks finance this move?

Is this a wise move? Realstate in the UAE is stable?

One last question...

Have the urge to move and have the ME insight, EY interview coming up soon but after reading all that's going on in there seems not the best company at the present time and not a smart move, currently in SEA as 320 PIC with 11,000US/month, nice place where I am now, but company is horrible with no future, good move to AA?

Thanks...






Thanks...
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Old 3rd Jan 2008, 18:37
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A320 line training

hi,if i hold A320 type i need the line training dose AA do it for me if i pay for it ? dose any one know and sure they do it before i contact them...
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Old 4th Jan 2008, 09:36
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AA

Has anyone been invited to the 07-08 January interview?
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Old 11th Jan 2008, 08:13
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Good Move?

Hey Myass:

Just got a quick question regarding housing, did any of the pilots bought a flat/Villa in Dubai?
Yes

Is it possible for a foreigner to own a house?
Yes

Do the local banks finance this move?
Yes, but restrictions: ie: only on projects they financed the builder etc. Also usually large down payments required.


Is this a wise move? Realstate in the UAE is stable?
Is Real estate a wise move anywhere? In real estate it is timing and location. Location is usually fairly easy to determine; however, the big question is timing. Could you please tell me when a stock will go up or down? Same answer and trust me you will get everything from “it’s a great time to invest” to “wait until the crash and get things for penny on the dollar.”

One last question...

Have the urge to move and have the ME insight, EY interview coming up soon but after reading all that's going on in there seems not the best company at the present time and not a smart move, currently in SEA as 320 PIC with 11,000US/month, nice place where I am now, but company is horrible with no future, good move to AA?


Depends on what company you are coming from. None of the jobs in the ME are all that great (when compared to North America and Europe.) As for Asia, some say once you get over the cultural crap of Asia the jobs are fairly nice; while others say, the ME is better (but there is cultural crap here too.) From what I have heard pay is better in Asia and while it is going up in the ME inflation is out of site in certain staple areas.

AA has had guys come from Vietnam and Silk Air, in that part of the world. Most Vietnam guys say it is much better at G-9 in pay and work but feel some of the BS is the same. The Silk guy couldn’t stand it and left after a few months – so you take your pick. BTW a few others came from Oceania and the PI but they have gone on to other ME carriers.

Pure and simple, you like where you are, you are probably better off. There is a future in AA with all the planes, but the quality of life will never change. It is hard work that gets old real fast for most guys but it depends on what you want.

Many of the F/Os came because they know AA is a fast upgrade. As a matter of fact about a third to half of the Captains came to the company as F/Os (many on this board.) Many of those guys (some upgrading 2-3 years ago) now have enough time to go elsewhere as DEC (and some are going.)

Other F/Os came because they didn’t have the licenses (JAA or FAA ATPs) and came here for the time and licenses. I believe they too will go under certain circumstances.

Some F/O came to get some flight time, upgraded to Captain, got some more time and now are TRIs. A large number of the TRIs at AA – well I flew with them when they were F/Os.

Some Captains and F/Os came for money. Pay is much higher here than in their native country. This group consists mainly of the South Americans (including Mexicans) and Russians (Armenians, Ukrainians etc.) Most are highly experienced with the F/Os having as much as 10+ years experience in their former airline. So for F/Os they came for not only the pay but also the upgrade, which makes them rich!

Some F/Os came as S/Os but now have quite some time. A few went back to Europe and some stayed in the ME but only a couple (that have the time now) are still here.

A few Captains and F/O came because they saw the grass as greener on the other side of the fence - some of them have gone on as well.

A few came on a power trip.

Most of the Europeans and North Americans are now gone. A few of the EU guys got their upgrade and for those remaining they need more time in the left seat. The NAs have returned to Canada in mass. Only three are left and I believe they will all be gone by Spring or Summer 08.

So once again, roll the dice and take your change. Got to go and study for my English Exam.

Burners and Out!

Last edited by W Weasel; 11th Jan 2008 at 08:37.
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Old 11th Jan 2008, 08:53
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WW

You must have wrote that just before going to bed....another night flight tonight???

Good luck on your English test. I hope I pass mine as well....I've been studying hardly!!


Cheers.
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Old 11th Jan 2008, 09:12
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Now having said all that other stuff, the salaries are fairly competitive in the ME. ABY’s rate for Captains with over 2000 hrs in type is 40,500 AED (11,050 US) per month without flight pay. That is what you get if you take vacation (or are out of time due to 900/year) and sit and don’t see the airport for 30 days.

Using the company’s numbers of “85 actual hours is 110 pay hours” is what I used. This is a new rating system so we have little experience with it at this time – give us a few months and we all will know.

Using their data will give you a monthly flight pay of 13,650 AED (3,700 USD) plus 1400 AED ($390) PD. That is not shabby at 55,550 AED ($15,200 US) per month. Remember the UAE HAS NO TAXES so what you make is what you keep (unlike in India.)

The perks are fairly straightforward, LOL, Insurance, School Fees, Bonus, etc. These things (other than bonus) may not increase your salary but reduce your expenses. When you send your children to good schools and don’t have to pay (or if you have a lot of kids only pay a percentage) it helps with the bottom line. Free ticket home, while maybe inconvenient for some, is really nice for those guys living in South America.

Now if the UAE will revaluate their AED (like business has called for nearly a year) then watch those numbers really mean something. 55K AED ($15K US) would quickly become $18,500 – $21,400 US per month – UAE TAX FREE.

I felt that I had to balance my other post with the money side for you mentioned cash in your post. And definitely in the ME just about everyone is here for the cash – nearly everyone.

Burners and out!
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Old 11th Jan 2008, 09:16
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Night Flights?

Not hardly, DMM, RUH, while they are in the dark are definitely not "night" - well at least for pay. But I do get to sleep in my bed at 21:30 LCL

Heard we are starting up KBL again. Are you going this time or am I going to be the only NA again?

B&O
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Old 11th Jan 2008, 09:48
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Kab-oom ??!!

Nope...that's all yours my friend. I'll watch for you on CNN Breaking News from my airport layover hotel room in Laguardia. 15 weeks and counting....where did the years go??

No Kabul for me as they are keeping me busy on the sub-continent and other DAY flights. Oh, to be senior.............

Cheers.
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Old 11th Jan 2008, 20:49
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non-A320 TR FO

Hey Fellas...

Just wondering what the chances are for an old mil guy like me getting on without an A-320 TR.....according to the website I need one but what are the chances? I'm a CAF pilot with loads of jet time (fighter) but no heavy and no TR. Any chance of a TR in return for a bond or even better just a job? I'm looking at Saudi or Cathay so any advice (esp from WW - love your posts) would help.

Thanks gents....post on...
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Old 13th Jan 2008, 16:38
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Upgrades?

Hi Folks,

How long has it been taking FO's to upgrade at AA?

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Old 14th Jan 2008, 19:46
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About 1.5 - 2 years, assuming you have the time and licenses.
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