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VISION THREAD (other than colour vision) 2

Old 13th Jul 2019, 20:39
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LASIK while flying commercially. Any experiences?

Hi all,

I am an A320 pilot thinking about LASIK surgery. I have both myopia (nearsightedness) and astigmatism, around 2,5 in each eye for each. My prescription has been stable for the last 3-4 years (I am around 30 years old).

Now, has anyone undergone surgery while flying commercialy? AME has advided around a 3-4 week period with your medical taken away from you, but has encouraged me to go for it. Obviously I would be a life-changing procedure for me and I cannot wait to get rid of my glasses.

Any advice? From pilot who have done it or even doctors who can help....

Thank you
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Old 13th Jul 2019, 21:14
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In FAA land, making a “Short” and a “Long” eye to let you function without lenses is a Nono.
if you are good at distance, keep doing what you are, because you’re gonna need glasses anyway. If Far vision and Astigmatism is the primary problem, you could consider LASIK, but it might be a better idea to wait until
youre 40 or so, so that your lens stops changing before you make
an irrevocable alteration to your corneas.
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Old 15th Jul 2019, 17:04
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Originally Posted by vikdream View Post
Hi all,

I am an A320 pilot thinking about LASIK surgery. I have both myopia (nearsightedness) and astigmatism, around 2,5 in each eye for each. My prescription has been stable for the last 3-4 years (I am around 30 years old).

Now, has anyone undergone surgery while flying commercialy? AME has advided around a 3-4 week period with your medical taken away from you, but has encouraged me to go for it. Obviously I would be a life-changing procedure for me and I cannot wait to get rid of my glasses.

Any advice? From pilot who have done it or even doctors who can help....

Thank you
I asked my AME a few years ago for advice on this. He explained that your eyesight recovers 90% in 2 days and the following 10% can take up a year. he said the UK CAA would not allow you to fly for that year! Things might have changed but best advice is to seek opinion direct from your Authority.
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Old 15th Jul 2019, 17:25
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I went to Specsavers UK and mentioned that I was interested in LASIK surgery. The Optometrist said DON’T, she explained that she, and most of her optometrist course colleagues at Uni, had LASIK and now she can’t drive at night due “star burst” vision.
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Old 23rd Jul 2019, 16:23
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Hello everyone,

I've received my class 1 medical in May. I should start my integrated training in 30 days. Last month however I noticed I've been blessed with tinnitus out of the blue. 2 weeks after, I went to an airshow and while looking at the strip, I noticed the following thing in my central vision:

youtu.be/wPjHOkSWvRM

Bright sun and lots of heat sound like the trigger. I've experienced the same thing a month later while visiting the same region and under the same conditions. I am a bit baffled on what to do here. I've noticed that I also have the blue field entoptic phenomenon plus a few floaters.
My eyes, according to the two class 1 exams I've taken are fine, but this is a bad state to be in since flying consists mainly of blue sky and bright light all day every day, thus I am unsure if I should drop the idea, since this can be a possible safety issue. Any ideas on how to move forward would be greatly appreciated as I have 20 days before I have to sign my contract.

Regards,

Alex
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Old 24th Jul 2019, 13:59
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Dr Google has some information on Visual Snow. It seems to be a neuro ophthalmic disorder and like tinnitus you have to learn how to live with it.
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Old 24th Jul 2019, 16:21
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Originally Posted by RatherBeFlying View Post
Dr Google has some information on Visual Snow. It seems to be a neuro ophthalmic disorder and like tinnitus you have to learn how to live with it.
Living with it is fine, but what about working? I can go to the AME and say - I think I have Visual Snow - any idea on what happens next?
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Old 25th Jul 2019, 14:48
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Living with it is fine, but what about working? I can go to the AME and say - I think I have Visual Snow - any idea on what happens next?
For rare conditions, it totally depends on your national CAA - could be anything between allowable and permanent denial.

In the US, pilot unions and associations have expertise to help members work through aeromedical issues. Possibly you could take out a membership in AOPA and then contact their aeromedical people.
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Old 30th Jul 2019, 14:24
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Aspiring Pilot - Seeking Class 1 & 2 Medical advise before commencing training.

Aspiring Pilot - Seeking Class 1 & 2 Medical advise before commencing training.

Hi, I hope everyone is doing fantastic and awesome.

So, I am currently 22 years of age and I am an undergraduate student. I was hoping to embark on my training throughout the modular route over the next year or so.

However before doing so, I was hoping to get an input from anyone out there who may be able to offer any advise in regards to the following concern I am having. This concern of mine has simply put my pursuit into the aviation industry to a halt for almost a year now.

The concern I am having is with my my vision, as the vision in both of my eyes does not qualify for 20/20 vision. My right eye is 20/20 but not quite 20/15. My left eye is noted to be 20/40. This cannot be corrected. I have been to the local SpecSavers store here in UK for an eye test, and have been advised that my vision condition is called Amblyopia (Lazy Eye) and cannot be corrected. However I am still able to see everything clearly at almost most reasonable distances. I have been to a specialist here in the UK for a consultation and they have confirmed that my vision in my left eye cannot be corrected with any form of aid. However they said there may be a chance with vision therapy NOT surgery, but there is small margin of success. However this is significantly costly and wanted to see if anyone else has ever had to face anything like this.

I have been advised to just go and take the class 1 Medical exam and see what happens but I thought I'd get ahead of any surprises which may come my way.

I will appreciate any advise, experiences or inputs shared.

Thank you for viewing my post, I appreciate it very much.

## Also Please forgive me if this post was slightly extensive.
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Old 8th Aug 2019, 19:48
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Originally Posted by divetosavemylife View Post
Hi guys,
I think I tried to post a thread on this but it got deleted - my bad, mods, anxiety level through the roof.

Situation:
I just did my Class 1 Medicals for New Zealand (initial) yesterday. Everything seems to be OK, my eyesight was cleared, I have 6/6 corrected, no issues there. I did, however, have surgery to correct a lazy eye when I was 3 years old, and yes I did declare that on my form. Since then I have not any issues whatsoever with my eyesight, been driving fine and even playing sports to a semi-professional level, competing like crazy as well and living my life normally.

The issue:
NZ Class 1 initials are followed by a special eye exam. In this exam, they detected an exotropia which I have until today just not paid much attention to because of how little it has affected my life. The doctor said that it would have an angle of deviation a little more than what is required, so he's sent me to see an orthoptist as he didn't have the necessary equipment to do what he had to - in this case, he's asked me to do a Fusional Reserve Test and a BSV test.

The questions:

1. Has anyone had this happen to them?
2. What actually happens in these tests?
3. Is this likely to affect my ability to get a Class 1?

Thanks in advance guys, appreciate it lots.
I was in a kind of similar issue as yours when inwent for my UK CAA medical, the thing was that they fount that i had a latent squint in my eye wich i wasn't aware of. They sent me to an opthalmologist who failed me because my eye deviation was too large and he tought that when i will be 50 years old there will be a 20% chance that i will start to develop symptoms of Double Vision (Wich is the risk with the squint) but at the moment i nevere experienced double vision in my life and according to UK CAA regulations if i didn't had double vision i should have passed my class 1 even if i was over the limits as long as you don't see double tht should not be a problem.

I appealed straight after the wrong decision of the Opthalmologist and i got my medical 6 month later.


So you will be fine too don't lose hope as far as i know new zeland class 1 medical standards are pretty much the same to the uk caa in the squint section. (i might be wrong aswell)
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