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Im a new student pilot! need some help/advice

Old 18th Oct 2010, 22:43
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Im a new student pilot! need some help/advice

Im not really sure if this is the write place on this forum to post and sorry if its not.

Im Jake and I just started flying two weeks ago. After my first flight I was very dissapointed in myself due to getting sick and throwing up on the way back to the airport for the landing I did not eat anything before the flight so im guessing this was the issue because I have never gotten sick before like that in any vehicle. My next few lessons I did better no throwing up just a little uneasy once in a while.So today I had my 7th lesson and we did landings and pattern work for the first time and on the way for my fourth landing i had the same issue as with my first flight and im mad because this is what Ive wanted to do since I could remember. Any advice on what I can do to help my air sickness problem.


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Old 19th Oct 2010, 04:57
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Hi!

The main thing about food and flying lies in... physics Every mass has it's own inertia - the greater the mass, the greater the inertia. Translated into human body, if you go flying, every force on your body will significantly displace your empty stomach, resulting in severe uncomfort and like in your case - throwing up. Next time you go flying try to eat a lunch (lunch, not a sandwich or a snack) two hours before flight (so that food has time to settle down in stomach) and see if you feel any better.

As for any medication, I cannot give you any advice, since the "food trick" worked for me and actually, I have a feeling I fly better when I'm full than empty. But the most important thing is to have fun, the sickness is probably combination of food, stress and excitement of flying and should pass soon
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Old 19th Oct 2010, 05:17
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Don't worry about it......... a lot of people are overwhelmed by Motion sickness at first. you'll get over it in a little while. Have fun...... you'll be telling your friends all about it soon enough.
 
Old 19th Oct 2010, 06:28
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Yep make sure you eat.

Not chocolate and coke, that just makes for a choccy fountain, spectacular but not fun.

Eat a real meal a few hours before the flight, drink plenty of water (drain it before flight) it helps to set your blood sugar levels which if low can make you feel, dizzy, queasy etc.
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Old 19th Oct 2010, 07:39
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How do, I was exactly the same when I started gliding a few years ago. I started my ppl in march and sure enough the same thing happened. Now I've nearly finished my ppl I don't feel anything, it just takes time to get used to it all. Good luck with your flying mate and don't worry!
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Old 19th Oct 2010, 08:16
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I think you're stressing your self....eat and relax....Just think like you are driving..I don't imagine you get sick while driving...so it should be the same as flying (except if the weather is bumpy, or if you keep chenging the G's affecting your body )
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Old 19th Oct 2010, 12:11
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ginger seems to help.
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Old 19th Oct 2010, 13:10
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All good advice, also don't wear too many clothes, you will be better if you are cool and comfortable, use the air vents and perhaps try taking a bottle of water. A few sips may just help to settle the queasy feeling.
As you become more comfortable with the aircraft you will be fine.
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Old 19th Oct 2010, 13:17
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It will pass, I had the same problem and so did a friend, don't turn to pills as he did it just drags it out longer. Just keep at it, eat properly but dont feel bloated before a flight. By the time you have your PPL it will be a distant memory. Don't feel you have to keep quiet about feeling uneasy either, if you are doing steep turns or unusual attitudes and start feeling rough tell your instructor and move onto something else, your retention of lessons will be poor so dont push on till you can take no more just ask to move onto another aspect, maybe mention it in the briefing so you can decide what to work on if the other stuff makes you feel queasy. Once in the plane try to put it out of your mind and just get on with the tasks but don't ignore it if it starts to feel bad.
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Old 19th Oct 2010, 22:14
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hey mate have a look at this link. i had the same problem and just followed the advice on here. some good tips here but all in all i wouldn't worry about it. http://www.pprune.org/private-flying...ght=sick+pilot
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Old 20th Oct 2010, 00:01
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hehe - I had the same problem as you on an introductory flight, motion sickness all the way... I was very annoyed because I don't get motion sickness in cars or in airplanes (commercial jets)....

After discussing the issue with a friend (private pilot), I think I figured out why I felt this way. I was concentrating too hard on the instruments rather than looking outside and taking note of the horizon. In other words, my body and ears felt motion but this was not correlating to what my eyes were seeing.

My friend suggested that next time I make sure to keep looking at the horizon and take a good look at the land below, track some ground objects but don't 'fixate'.

Yesterday I had my 2nd lesson and followed the advice, looking at the horizon, looking at the ground.... didn't feel airsick at all, it was a brilliant feeling as I thought it would take 8+ lessons to conquer the motion sickness.

Ps. I had chocolate just before the flight!
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Old 20th Oct 2010, 00:30
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................. or just get used to it! Nelson used to get seasick.
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Old 20th Oct 2010, 03:49
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thanks for all the great advice

I went up this morning and made sure to eat a good breakfest an hour so before. Ended up doing 6 takeoff's/landings and some pattern work, didnt get sick either
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Old 4th Nov 2010, 21:52
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Hey, im jay and i had my first flying lesson when i was 11.. but since 14 (minimum age that hours begin to count)

i have about 3 and a half hours flight time total but i have no idea what so ever about what to do next... i am already comfortable with most of the atc coms and tried a little stall and spin awareness things and the quick touch and go's......can you give me some advice on what to do next? thanks.
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Old 12th Nov 2010, 08:24
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don't turn to pills as he did it just drags it out longer
Warning: you have to be very careful about the legality of medications when acting as a pilot. Don't rely on the leaflets that come with the medication, since they aren't designed for pilots
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Old 12th Nov 2010, 10:06
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Don't bother with medication

I suffered a little with this problem. Medication probably wont fix it and you need to be so careful with what you take anyhow.
The instigator for me was yaw so I'm sure that you do anyhow but keep the ball in the middle during turns. Before flight you must eat something a couple of hours earlier. Sip water when you get a chance during the flight.
You get used to it fairly quickly and you will soon be doing stalls and spins. A lot of the problem occurs when you are thinking about feeling unwell. I suddenly realised that it wasn't bothering me any longer and forgot all about it.
I find full motion sims more of a problem...the yaw movement in those especially whilst 'taxying' is distinctly unpleasant.
Good luck.
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Old 13th Nov 2010, 17:46
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Danger Who Wouldn't ?

I feel like chundering every time I go flying now aswell. I'm not sure if it's because the whole industry is going tits up like the Irish economy or because if I want to move up the ladder into a better job I will have to buy the job. My advice kid, is go and become a banker and leave this circus to the clowns and birds.
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Air sickness=motion sickness: The best cure that i've heard of, in relation to this matter, is by wearing a "seaband" just below your wrist.

It's a band, similar to a band that a woman ties her hair with.
It consists of a of shirt button in the middle of the band.
The band is placed in the area where you'd measure your pulse, just below your wrists.
Once the band is placed on each arm, you'll feel a slight tightness with the button exterting some pressure, this has the effect of preventing any motion sickness.
No pills are needed!
In Australia these bands are called "seabands" and can be bought at most pharmacy's for around twenty dollars.
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Old 15th Nov 2010, 12:59
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Gentle Climb is correct - a meal high in slow release carbohydrate two hours before flight is just the ticket...

Seabands? I'm in the wrong business! Dumbo used a feather; imagine the anxiety if you forget your band.
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Old 15th Nov 2010, 14:08
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Mr. rmbc says:
Seabands? I'm in the wrong business! Dumbo used a feather; imagine the anxiety if you forget your band.
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How would you know? You actually don't know mr. rmbc!

They're called seabands in Australia and they actually do work.
Once a person gets use to flight manouvers over time, they become
less reliant on using any type of aid for motion sickness.

Food consumption prior to flight can assist, but it won't stop a person
from getting air sick and vomiting.
A person that experiences motion sickness in flight, will also experience motion sickness whilst sitting at the back of a bus, due to the continuous
turns made around bends.
It's a proven fact that if a person feels nausea, they just have to press their thumb and apply pressure on the area just behind their wrist where the pulse is measured and the nausea will stop.
Seabands have the same effect!
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