bearbear8888

i failed the lantern test in medical and the dr. said I needed to do a further color vision assessment b4 I can get the offer....Now they even asked me to do it b4 Fg.....

ab33t do u happen to know any current pilots who hv the same problem ?

ab33t

Its a very grey area , I cannot get a JAA 1st class but have been flying commercial in the EU for many years now with the same problem you have. I had to do the tower lantern test in the USA to get a clearance . If you are in the UK you can take a trip doewn to Gatwick they have two different types of lanterns give that a shot, I could not pass either one of them . All the best to you , I hope it works out. Check the forums here this topic has been on the web for ages

bearbear8888

well yeah actually i checked those threads alrdy....but CX is a HK based company...i dunno if they accept the signal light gun test or not so i am pretty anxious abt it... anyway...i dun think i will be able to pass any lantern test coz i really am having hard times distinguishing those tiny green and white light spots.... sooo all i want to know is does CX approve it and if so, how can i arrange it in HK....

I called CX medical and the dr. said I needed to send the report to her first to assess if I can do another test (probably signal light test)... I dun want to send it until i really have no other alternatives....

flybywire380

Warren24

Hi guys, I made an account just for this thread. I'm 19 and I to have "the dreaded K". I really hope there's someone here that can help me or at least give me some helpful advice.

I've been fitted with gas permeable lenses which work ok for my right eye (20/25) but my left eye is still in the 20/40 range. My regular eye doctor understands that a Class 1 FAA medical requires at least 20/20 corrected vision so she suggested I see a cornea specialist about intacs. I was assured that the procedure would be covered by my insurance (NJ medicare) as it was something i really needed.

Well when I saw to the cornea specialist today I explained the whole situation...
And they literally laughed at me. They said there was absolutely no way my insurance would cover it, that intacs are only for people with the "big bucks".
I have never been so mad and crushed at the same time in my entire life. I am hell bent on being a pilot and I'm set to start flight school this summer, but the school wants a Second Class medical before i start... and I know I wont meet the 20/20 requirement without this procedure.

My regular eye doctor says i am a good canidate for the procedure and I have a good chance of getting 20/20 uncorrected vision in both eyes after the procedure.
So if anyone has any advice, or knows of a Docter or Organization in the NJ area that can help me get this procedure PLEASE let me know.

PeteW

Sorry if I'm being dumb...but are the CAA now accepting the results of the City University computerised test?

I currently have a "daylight restriction" having failed the Isihara and H-W lantern (part of a set of tests at City Uni a few years ago that showed that I have a "mild" red-green deficiency). On the evidence of the previous City Uni results I would probably pass the CAD test.

On a separate track: I currently hold an IMCr but cannot do a JAA IR since the entry requirement is a night rating. If I get a piggyback FAA licence (daylight restricted as per the JAA licence) can I do the FAA IR or does that too stipulate the need for the night privilege (no such thing as an FAA night rating?).

Shunter

Not sure you'd call 1 year "many".

The answer is simple; don't fly a JAA-registered aircraft. One can fly around quite happily in an N-registered aircraft on an FAA license with FAA medical. That's what most of the bizjet operators do. I believe the Isle of Man also validate any ICAO-compliant license, so M-registered aircraft might well be maintained under EASA but can be flown with FAA licenses.

Ponte

Hi windforce.

I've sat there last week. I've been previpoully at citi uni. I'm also a mid deutan.

Please share your outcome and I wish you good luck..

tarmac-

Have a close mate who is slightly colour blind apparently , can see approx 80% of the ishiharas from memory. He brought the isihara book , memorised it , passed the test. Good for now I guess but getting caught out would prove a huge waste of money unless colour blindness is tested only once if you keep going to the same optometrist?

Ponte

Does anyone know if we can make cvd tests in europe to apply for a faa licence in order to save some bucks on the trip there?

Can we do the tower test here on behalf of an faa licence?

Bill Smith

You guys this isn't about passing a test. You have already been offered help by the wonderful man who changed the CV standard in Australia.
Get organised and take the standards to task.
The most detailed scientific study ever conducted got the standard changed in Australia.
At least add your names to Dr Pape's database by replying to him

Ponte

I already started a group to try to accoumplish this.
For those who know my effort I would like to see more will because it was made possible in the past and we can do it again.
For those who don't know it, private message me..
I leave my email: email at pedroponte.com

I want to take this to the press to gather more people. I'm writing an article for the portuguese press and I want to spread it worldwide but I need help on this..

Also, I would love to put my hands on the study presented on Australian courts so that we could have a base where to start..!

Let's try together shall we?

PeteW

Interesting to see the Dr Pape case in Australia and the success.

For those interested in pushing this in Europe the Association Colours in Cockpit, ACC, looks worth investigating and supporting.


In the meantime I'm off to set up some night flying to get the rating (even if it will be daylight only) and will then head off to Gatwick to do the CAD.

Thanks to everyone for the help.

PeteW

Do you know any particular flight training schools who will do this?

My local one is concerned about the validity of "solo" whilst there is an FE/FI sitting beside you. They do not think the CAA would accept this. I know the CAA have been clarifying a number of training issues recently and hope that this avenue does not get cut off, or even actually exists.

PeteW

Thanks windforce.

Can I ask where you did it? Please feel free to send a private message if you don't want to say publicly.

Ponte

The only thing I didn't appreciate with Association Colours in Cockpit, ACC is that you need to pay to be a member.
I tryed to contact them but I received no feedback.
I contacted them in order to make something bigger....

If someone has a better luck, give me a call..

Warren24

Congratulations man, it's nice to here a success story. Sounds like you got a good doctor to. Makes me wish I lived in Australia

Tmbstory

2close::

Is Lembit Opik MP for Montgomeryshire a member of PPrune ?

I have also sent this as a PM to you.

Kind regards

Tmb

Monty1977

Hi guys,

As many of you here, i have also problems with my color vision. However, got a JAA PPL(A) with restriction VFR only. (i have a class 2, with day flight only on it)

Question now is, is it possible to get a CPL(A) with restriction VFR only? Is it possible to get a class 1 medical with restriction VFR only?

What about the night-rating qualification which has to be obtained for a CPL?

Thanks!

Ponte

Any issues, please talk...

best regards and good luck