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Old 22nd Sep 2009, 18:10
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Migraine and Class 2

I suffer from occasional migraine without aura. I generally get the symptoms a few hours before the main attack, and generally head it off with the right tablets.

Would this preclude me from a Class 2 medical?
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What are the right tablets?
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And what are "the symptoms"?
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Symptoms for me are a pain in a particular part of my head, always the same place. I usually take something with an antisickness agent in and then treat with painkillers and sleep! Typical treatment is migraleve, although I think it's the sleep that makes it go away.
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The authorities tend to get a little twitched about the term "migraine." (With or without aura.)

Are you sure you're not suffering from an everyday headaches which we all get from time to time?

Who labelled it "Migraine."
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Pretty sure, they always follow the same pattern (throbbing one-sided headache, nausea, vomiting, repeat for 1-2 hours or until I manage to fall asleep).

I am thankful that it's pretty rare (every couple of months), is usually gone after 6-12 hours and no effect on my vision (unlike my mother, who also suffers)

I don't think it's ever been diagnosed as such by my doctor, however.
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I've posted this before on PPRuNe...I found the following much more effective as a painkiller for migraine. Once I started taking this combination I found that I had no pain, just a felt a bit weird for a couple of hours. Got to take them as soon as you notice the warning signs though. (Assuming you have no bad reactions to either of the substances!)

1000mg Paracetomol + 600mg Ibuprofen (taken together).
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I'll try that next time. The skill is to always keep the tablets with you!

I did try triptans on a few occasions but I didn't really notice much difference to migraleve; I guess I don't get them often enough to test whether they work or not. That and the cost (£7 for two) put me off!

That said.. I can honestly say, when a migraine is in full flow I would pay ten times the cost to get rid of it..
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oversteer: You say they are "throbbing one-sided headache".
Are they always left side ? if so do not discount the possibility that they are Cluster Headaches.

If you suspect they are, as a long time sufferer, I urge you to consult a neurologist to obtain the correct diagnosis and treatment.
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Blues&twos you recommend an over the counter medication combination (with proviso) 1000mg Paracetomol + 600mg Ibuprofen taken together for the treatment of your diagnosed migraine. However, the Forum cautions the use of this combination of medications as general advice to those with migraine and those that do not have a specific diagnosis. PPRuNer "oversteer" needs to refer to his general practioner for clarification and possible ongoing treatment under the care of a Neurologist.

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Hello guys,
i just wanna share about the condition of my friend because she's suffering from migraine. I felt pity for her . I think, all her medicine are not effective. Her migraine keeps on coming back. I just wanna ask if what other medicine do you know?


Thankss!
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I am not sure of the statistics but lets say 10% of the population suffer from migranes, less than 1% of pilots do. Or more accurately admit to it. A friend of mine who suffered admitted to one to his doctor and had his single pilot rating removed for a year. A bit unfortunate as he was flying commercially in a single crew twin. Fortunately he kept his job and his hours going though use of a safety pilot on trips that allowed the extra weight. I have no idea of medication suitable as I fortunately don't suffer and I don't know how it would affect a class two medical. The best you can do is work out what the trigger is for your migranes (caffeine, cheese, uv light, dehydration etc etc) and avoid it. This is one of those things that is generally avoidable by a slight lifestyle change. Good luck.
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One of today's AAIB reports contains a report about a helicopter pilot who had a history of migraine that was apparently not disclosed at his medical renewals.

It refers to the need to be "headache free and off medication for at least two months". Is this the requirement for a Class 2 initial medical as well as a renewal? I do not take preventative medication, and I do think mine are caused by environmental factors (eg dehydration) - which I think I have improved control over compared to recent years. Is it still likely to be a concern ?
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Yes, and P67 shows clearly why a person suffering migraine should never, ever, be the sole pilot of any aircraft.

Being free for a few weeks! Five years means nothing. It can strike at any time, with a greater likelihood of occurring in people that have a history of regular attacks.

As I've mentioned in several of my many posts on Classical Migraine, it can be totally disabling, and, even in a two crew environment, could seriously jeopardize the safety of the flight.

The only argument that can be put forward for being allowed to fly, is that anyone, at any time, can have their first attack. This logic is far from sound, but I can see that someone that only has the very occasional attack might be loathe to give up a lifetime's career.

Someone that is in the throws of a bad attack could be compared to a pilot flying IMC with no instruments. Added to this, they may be further disorientated with associated loss of feeling in limbs or inability to search for everyday words for example.

What someone that had an attack 'about once a week' was doing flying without a safety pilot, God only knows.
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