Bohh

thank you for all of your replies. Just to clarify- can you use ear plugs inside of a cockpit?

cavortingcheetah

Probably not unless your medical certificate is endorsed for the compulsory wearing of ear plugs and certainly not if your captain objected to a first officer flying with stoppers in his ears.

AC033

I've always dreamed as everyone here has I'm sure, of flying commercially. I do have a hearing loss that is corrected to "normal" hearing limits. I have a Cat 3 Medical with the use of a hearing aid, I don't have any problems hearing the ATC or Instructor while on the ground or in-flight. My question is, would Transport Canada allow me to get a Cat 1 medical and fly commercially?

VFR-Norway

Good question. I did the same class 3 in Canada in 2010, and was unsecure if i was gonna do the class1 at the same time, due my hearing loss too.

When I returned back home to Norway later, I booked a class 1 medical FAA, and my hearing-test was only to stand face to wall from the doctor, reapeating his words, and it was all good!

To do the JAR-FCL -medic, it's really pricy,m but you can pay seperatly for the hearing-test if you think that will be an issue, so that you don't have to pay for the whole test if you fail the hearing test...

Good luck!

Gulfstreamaviator

In theory for a Class 1 medical, the examiner conducts an audiogram test, which is conducted unaided.

The chances of you passing this test are NIL. It is almost impossible to get a pass using the supplied headset, ( ww2 bomber technology).

The FAA has a logical and practical standard for initial and renewal, which is easily attainable.

Glf

Mike 75

Hello, my name is Michael Vincent, and this is my very first post here at PPRuNe. I have a few questions and concerns regarding the hearing standards for airlines. I am profoundly deaf in my left ear and cannot hear out of it. My right ear is tip top shape. As a matter of fact, nobody can actually tell I'm deaf in one ear until I tell them personally. Regarding this, is it possible that I can get hired as a profressional pilot?

Mike 75

So I still have a shot at flying commercially??

cp35

Hearing is out of limits, so have to have a functional hearing test and submit the form, is this necessary for every revalidation/renewal or two yearly.

EIPCW

Hi,

I'm hoping someone can help regarding the renewal of a class 1 medical.

I've been basically refused the issue of a medical cert as my right ear has dropped out of the limitations for certification.

I have had ongoing problems with my ears from a young age which I have always been up front with when having my medicals. I do have a perforation in my right ear which will require surgery to fix.

Quote from CAA medical department

"For only revalidation or renewal, greater hearing loss can be recertified following demonstrated satisfactory functional hearing ability.
My question is, should I not still be issued a class 1 medical once I can"

Should I still not be issued my class 1 once I can demonstrate above?

Any advice would be much appreciated,
Paul

gemini76

Unless things have changed recently, following refusal of Class 1 certification you should receive a letter from the Aeromedical Dept. requesting a "Functional Hearing Assessment", after which your Class 1 will have the limitation "SSLFHA - Special restriction as specified :- Functional Hearing Assessment Required within 3 months of renewal/revalidation medical"
See CAA application form SRG1205 issue 3 for details, which should be completed by a Training Captain or CFI.
A quick trip in a C152 with a local CFI will do the trick!
Hope this helps.

Parson

I'm surprised your AME hasn't helped you sort this out? I believe the functional hearing assessment is based on your current operational flying environment. So if you are flying professionally, then your employer would do it. If not, as gemini says, a flight with a local CFI should suffice.

Parson

It is annual I believe but your AME should be able to advise

EIPCW

Thanks guys, I have emailed my AME stating all this. Hopefully I get a positive response

Antonio1

Hello
Is there any pilot with otosclerosis who went through stapedectomy or stapedotomy?
If yes, how long before you get your first class medical and start flying again?

EIPCW

Interested to know this myself as I require a similar procedure. I am however waiting to hear back from the CAA whether it is required surgery before renewing my medical. I am hoping I can fly with the hope of getting this surgery some time in the future

joseghamby

About 2 months ago when I was going to sleep I noticed a ringing in my left ear. I considered it easily, but that was there until the morning. I started to feel a fullness and slight hearing loss from that day and obviously, I thought it was wax and tried ear drops. I was still experiencing the same problem even after a week and I consulted a doctor. He said me I had a slight outside ear contamination and gave me a few drops for that and eustachian tube dysfunction as well. Apparently it was the eustachian tube dysfunction which caused the ringing. I had drops and it was alright, yet after a few days it began again and this time it was appalling. Consistent beeping and ringing sound and the filled ear made me insane. Yesterday I had an appointment with an audiologist at Westside audiology and he found my eustachian tube got plugged and it is almost closed now. So he suggested hearing aid for the time till the treatment wraps up. I saw some models of hearing aids - and I truly stunned this little instrument can recuperate such an irritating issue. Does hearing aid really work? I don’t wanna take a risk and can you people please suggest me?

Winnerhofer

Tinnitus
Had this for 6 months in 2015!
Took forever to go!
Used heavy-duty cortisone nasal sprays and oral cortisone.
Had ears cleaned, took all anti-biotic and and anti-mycotic drops and sprays.
Be patient you'll be ok but it will take at least 6 months!!!
Try to see an osteopath or chiropractor which may help by checking your jaw tension.
It could be dental so get your occlsusion checked by an orthodentist.
See another ORL (ENT) specialist.
One other thing: could be reflux related to food intolerances which may be the cause.
Try cutting out dairy produce and see if it works.
If not go see an immunoallergist to test for:
DAO, Tg, T3, T4, TSH, IgA, IgE.
Remember the cause of this is stress and it is psychosomatic.

Radgirl

Winnerhoffer will give you a massive bill but little else

joseghamby - the eustacian tube runs from the MIDDLE ear (inside the ear drum) to the throat. It gets swollen with infection and closes up. This is otitis media.

Ear drops outside the eardrum will treat otitis externa - infection of the ear canal - but cant pass into the middle ear.

The symptoms of otitis media are normally reduced hearing and fullness of the ear. The conventional treatment for middle ear issues is antihistamines and antibiotics. Some people have pain and need pain killers.

So if your symptoms dont settle go back and see your doctor, or ask to be referred to an ENT surgeon. A hearing aid wont clear it up and normally isnt needed

Good luck

Radgirl

'Wrong' Winnerhoffer. Please please understand if the cause if otitis media it needs to be treated to prevent other issues.

Loose rivets

Just when I'd got my back operated on, and my retina peeled, my hearing's gone all muffled. Had to press the GP to get to see a specialist, but he, the specialist, says it's pressure in the cochlea and they're not quite sure what causes it.

I was so depressed when I got home I rummaged though the medicine cupboard and found half a course of Cefalexin - just about in date, though it had a pungent smell when liberated from the plastic.

The logic of this was the feeling I get when making some sounds - it's as though I'm causing pressure on the eardrum from the middle ear. It suddenly pushes out. So, a glue ear or some-such. I hasten to add I did read up for many sessions.

The bloke at the hospital took a quick look in the outer ear and decided there was no sign of infection. That was one hell of a quick diagnosis to risk my hearing on.

The thing is, I got a very significant improvement within 36 hours and could hear quite well again. But, one of the side-effects of this AB is the trots. Suddenly it was worse than Picolax and a lot more painful. I gave up taking the AB, but now the hearing is very poor again - I would love to have taken at least four days of it which would have given more ammo to pester for an urgent appointment. Now of course I've probably made the infection worse.

Absolutely screwed by this as it takes weeks to get to see a doctor and it's taken months to get the see the specialist. In the meantime the first course of action was to get a hearing check and a pair of hearing aids. I kept saying that when it's in a good phase, my hearing is fairly good, and it's not loss of hearing, but a total muffled sound that just gets louder with the aids.

Age 76, hearing loss about normal for age. Normally good becoming muffled intermittently. The bad times increasing in frequency.

Anyone with relevant knowledge? Please don't tell me about self-medicating. It's like a third world country down hear with 2, occasionally 3 doctors working like hell where 7 was the norm - and that was before the last population increase. I hate to pester them, but this has pretty well been the final thing for 24 hours a day isolation from any social interaction.