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Old 29th Jan 2008, 17:42
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Blood pressure limits

A cabin crew friend of mine has recently been diagnosed with high blood pressure.

Our company doctor wouldnt tell him what the upper limit was, but added that it was over the pilot limit.

Anyone know what the upper limit is for a male around 35yrs old and around 85kgs.
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Old 29th Jan 2008, 19:12
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if the blood pressure is more than 140/80 , you cannt conduct a flight....
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Old 29th Jan 2008, 19:52
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I've not heard that before airman.

Previous posts on this forum, seem to suggest that th CAA work to limits of 160/95.

More info at http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...blood+pressure
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Old 29th Jan 2008, 21:44
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I was quite shocked when it came back as 170/120!!

Did the 24-hour thing c/o the hospital

Went for my initial medical and it was 150/100. Told the AME about the 24hr thing and she suggest I just read a magazine and chill out for 10 minutes whilst she did the paperwork. Took it again - perfectly normal.

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How did your pulse rate vary with the range of readings?
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Old 29th Jan 2008, 21:55
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gingernut is correct. JAR maximum is 160/95.

Mine is above average, but it's nowhere near that. If you're that high you really ought to pay a visit to your GP I'd say.
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Old 30th Jan 2008, 10:04
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Loose Rivets, I don't recall, I'm afraid.
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Old 30th Jan 2008, 11:45
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I have white coat hypertension. Every time I go to the doctor I am scared I am going to loose my job. My pulse is around 120 and my BP 150/100.
I have very low cholesterol levels (aound 100)

When I go to the doctor I ask him if he can take my BP when lying down.
My pulse and BP decreases rapidly withing 30 seconds. Pulse 75 and BP 100/65.


Are there any known natural remedies that really lowers blood pressure?
Is it true that if you take blood pressure controlling medicine that you will have problems with erection?
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Big Jimmy, your first reading of 150/100 is slightly up, but should be discounted.

The lower reading (in your case the 2nd reading) should be the one recorded. (see my post of 6/12/07).

I know of no known natural remedies to lower bp, other than exercise, lose weight, low salt etc, and cut down other risk factors (diet/smoking etc).

Treatment of hypertension can cause erection problems in a minority of patients, but this can usually be cirumnavigated by a change in medication.

Of course you've got to let the quack know about the problem in the first place!
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Old 30th Jan 2008, 14:30
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White coat hypertension - I know the feeling. Every medical I fail blood pressure until I try to relax somewhat. I have recorded as high as 180 over x. The docs say I'm too nervous... I enjoyed the comment of one AME - "I'm not wearing a white coat so deal with it.'
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Old 31st Jan 2008, 16:34
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The Medical will be checked with a manual BP checker and not an electronic one, start eating foods in moderation with plenty of potassium in them i.e Bananas, Potatoes veg and fruit and try and exercise as much as you can. This all helps!

The electronic ones will help and do work but take it to your docs first for him/her to calibrate it for you!

Hope this helps!
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Are there any known natural remedies that really lowers blood pressure?
There is an Indian ayurvedic remedy called Ivy's Muktavati. It's supposed to deal with stress etc primarily, but I've read a lot of first hand accounts recently of people lowering bp after using it, sometimes by quite a lot. You could do a web search and try it. According to those in the know, it has to be Ivy's, not anyone else's. Should be harmless, if nothing else. But I claim no responsibility for damage to your bank account!
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Old 1st Feb 2008, 08:23
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Originally Posted by cessna l plate
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I accept that there are lifestyle changes that I need to make, and quickly, and exercise is probably the main one, followed by the ciggies.
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A low salt, low fat diet matters as well, along with plenty of fruit & veg and not drinking much alcohol. If you eat a lot of take-away food or eat out a lot your diet is probably far too high in both fat and salt and almost certainly doesn't have enough fruit & veg.

It's a subject that Google will get you lots of information about:

http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/23068761/
http://www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk/articles...?articleid=203
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Being a doctor and a pilot I understand all of your health concerns. whilst the following advice may not help with immediate BP trends but in the long run. If you are carrying a bit more weight than you ought to, if you reduce this down you will also find your BP may also settle down. Exercise, diet I can not stress stronglyu enough.
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Oh well, all change.....

CG127 Hypertension: quick reference guide
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I am told taking one aspirin a day helps reduce/ control blood pressure Any of the the subscribing medics confirm or have a view on this please?
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No

Nor does much else except reducing salt intake. Although a healthy diet masy reduce the onset of hypertension, once you have developed it the treatment is drug based. A healthy lifestyle may then reduce the ongoing increased risk of heart attacks and strokes but the blood pressure is I am farid a wake up call

Oh, and electronic machines are MORE accurate and I have never come across one that can be calibratedoutside a manufacturing facility.
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I am told taking one aspirin a day helps reduce/ control blood pressure Any of the the subscribing medics confirm or have a view on this please?


Aspirin has it's uses in treating arteriopaths.(But not by reducing blood pressure). For it to work, it has to be taken daily.

In all these decisions, one has to weigh up the benefits against the risks. Even with low dose use, if given to enough people, then it will burn a few holes in a few tummies, whilst at the same time, stopping a few clots.

In terms of "simple hypertension" then generally the balance tips towards not using. With established disease, such as after a heart attack,the balance is tipped t'other way.

There are many exceptions to the rule, so it's always best having a chat with your GP, they are usually up to speed with the latest evidence.

Aspirin and cancer prevention is another debate....

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Old 13th Sep 2011, 19:18
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Thank you to the last two posters.

Gigernut, most interested in the other debate on aspirin and cancer prevention. If you do not mind, can you please enlighten me on this aspect? I am sure most of us would find this useful. Thanks in advance.
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I'll have a look around, I think the paper was published in The Lancet about 6-9 months ago.
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I guess, that's the one you mentioned: Effect of daily aspirin on long-term risk of death due to cancer: analysis of individual patient data from randomised trials : The Lancet
Nevertheless, this study calculates the effects of aspirin on cancer death, but does not provide a risk benefit assessment. So unfortunately still quite some work to do.
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