Dr Jekyll

Lufthansa surely?

Jerry Lee

Due my problem, I will undertake flight training in USA, and then and carry out a JAA first class medical certification to renewal standards.
Many pilots did it so, I hope to be one of them, but I hear a bad thing (for me): This route is currently open but it is unclear how long it remain so.

Are there any probability that this route will be closed?

I hope it won't...

Furthermore, I hope that new requirements will be implemented next year.

Thanks in advance!

topgunferrari

Hey all

Im applying for a casa class 1 medical and im worried that my vision may not be up to the requirements for passing the medical. can anyone help me with what i will need to do if i fail? i have 6/12 vision in left eye and 6/9 in my right eye and im 6/6 with both eyes. I do wear glasses with a prescription on -0.75 which is a minor myopia case.

thanks for your hep

Jerry Lee

You should have no problem. Don't worry, you will start flying soon!

FLAP ZERO

Isn't there anyone with experience of a class 1 medical post LASIK that can offer their input?

FLAP ZERO

Sorry, the above post had no context because I was replying to a post I made 14 months ago (no replies) and it was moved to the vision thread.

The CAA document states that there must be no problems with glare following LASIK. Do they do a tangible test for that or is it entirely subjective?

Do Gatwick measure your vision under low light conditions? Check for halos/starbursts?

Sterdex

Hello,

(sorry for my bad english)

I have a scar on my retina, a consequence of congenital toxoplasmosis. This is not evolutive (scar is very ancient). And this don't affect my visual acuity (10/10 at each eye). But I have a poor binocular vision.

I would like to apply for SWISS cadet sheme. That's why I visited an aeronautic ophtalmologist in Switzerland. And he told me I couldn't apply for class 1 examination (in Switzerland, you must pass an eye examination before class 1). Fortunately, he didn't send the result to the class 1 medical center. The reason is that JAR rules about binocular vision could be modified in 2012 (do you know about that ?). So, in theory, I could try to visit a second swiss ophtalmologist.

In my project, if I can't fly in Switzerland, I would like to have modular training in UK. So I plan to pass the Class 1 in the UK. Do you know if I have any chance ? I heard some rumour that UK physicians are more "soft" than french or swiss physicians.

Thank you !!

ramseyoptom

Flap Zero wrote:
The CAA document states that there must be no problems with glare following LASIK. Do they do a tangible test for that or is it entirely subjective?

Do Gatwick measure your vision under low light conditions? Check for halos/starbursts?

There is no recognised clinical test to measure glare, haloes/starbursts, so it is subjective. However its existance can be demonstrated.

One method is to use what is called a contrast sensitivity chart, there are several types eg Pelli-Robinson, or Balliey-Lovie LogMAR. Here you compare on say a LogMAR chart the visual acuity at high (90%) contrast and then at low(10%) contrast. The normal difference being about 1 line more than that will indicate possible glare problems.
A glare source on such charts may just be the use of a simple spotlight, however there is also a test know as the Brightness Acuity Tester, which requires the subject to view a test chart through a hole in a bright disc.

So it is possible measure and check for glare etc, but it is mainly a subjective response.

There is one further caveat in that the more modern methods of refractive surgery treatments have much reduced levels of glare/starbursts/haloes as a complication of the surgery. I am afraid I do not have any current statistics to hand.

ramseyoptom

Hi Sterdex,

Out of interest what is you binocular vision problem?

It may be that by some orthoptic treatment that you may ( and I emphasise may) be able to bring it within the current limits. But without any details I can comment no further.

Sterdex

Unfortunately, I haven't the score of binocular tests. I had to identify a "relief point" among 4 in a circle, another test consisted in 4 numbers in green and red circles ... I had an average score, not all wrong but not all right (but I can improve this score : at the end of the tests, when I was more concentrated I was able to give better answers) . And I failed the stereogram test (a figure with a lot of black and white points).

I took an appointment with 2 french retina expert in Paris in order to have a clear check up of my vision. It will be in june ...

jptaylor1973

I would appreciate some advice regarding the impending change to EASA regulation and any potential impact to medical certification. I have recently gained my Class 1 in preparation to start my ATPL training, but have a temporary restriction as my eyes don't meet the standard for inital accreditation. The CAA view my eye health to be satisfactory and well within acceptable parameters for medical revalidation, such that the restriction would normally be removed when I renew under CAA rules. They have however stated that this route could be removed under EASA rules. Does anyone know of any moves by EASA to change the rules regarding medical revalidation that would limit my ability to gain by ATPL.
Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.

BabyBear

Morning Folks,

I am beginning to run out of superglue to continue fixing my reading specs and have decided it is time to go have an eye test and buy new glasses.

Assuming the prescription changes (for reading only) what are the notification requirements, if any?

Thanks.

HEATHROW DIRECTOR

Nothing until your next medical. You will be expected to have the specs with you to prove that you can read with them. I updated my reading specs every years for about 15 years without any problems.

BabyBear

Thanks HD, it surprises me the CAA are happy to wait until the next medical for evidence one can read with the new specs, a pleasant surprise indeed.

Flyin'Dutch'

Nobody knows for sure what is going to happen.

TommyOv

Hello all,

Bit of a weird one; would appreciate any thoughts on the below:

My vision is pretty good: I've never worn corrective lenses and I have eye tests every year as part of my medical as an Air Cadet gliding instructor.

However, I've noticed for the past few years that sometimes my pupils are different sizes. Specifically, my left eye seems to take longer to respond to changes in light conditions. Generally they're about the same size (sometimes exactly), but sometimes they're both quite different.

More recently (6 months or so) I've noticed a strange effect whilst flying. Often on climbout, as I glance at the altimeter, the primary needle appears to 'flick' back a degree or two, before returning to where I originally saw it. This only lasts a fraction of a second. I'm thinking that the problem is likely to be a small lag in movement between my right eye moving and my left eye following it. My girlfriend (a junior doctor) says that she can sometimes see a slight lag when she waves her finger in front of my eyes, but isn't really able to offer any stunning medical insights, or relate it to aviation medicals.

So my questions to the medical boffins of pprune are:

1) Is this worth worrying about?
2) Does anyone else have this?
3) Am I going blind?
4) Could this be a problem in any future class 1 or 2 aviation medicals?

roma_ua

Hi everyone.
Currently, I have Class 3 Medical Certificate and I want to start my PPL-ATPL training. The only problem is my eyesight. I`m short eye sighted a bit.

I`ve just read this:


Eye standards for a first-class airman medical certificate are:
(a) Distant visual acuity of 20/20 or better in each eye separately, with or without corrective lenses. If corrective lenses (spectacles or contact lenses) are necessary for 20/20 vision, the person may be eligible only on the condition that corrective lenses are worn while exercising the privileges of an airman certificate.
(b) Near vision of 20/40 or better, Snellen equivalent, at 16 inches in each eye separately, with or without corrective lenses. If age 50 or older, near vision of 20/40 or better, Snellen equivalent, at both 16 inches and 32 inches in each eye separately, with or without corrective lenses.

As far as I understand if I wear glasses or lenses I can pass eye sight tests? Could anyone one confirm that I understand the text correctly?
Those numbers are not ring any bells in my mind
I just dont want to make LASIK eye surgery because in every day life I do not suffer much from my shortsightednes.

Kestral757

Hi Guys,

Does anybody know if a chalazion cyst on the bottom of the eyelid is problem when it comes to the Class 1 medical?



Thanks

Mungaloid

Hi,

I have been the holder of a Class 1 medical (CASA and South Africa), and am required to wear corrective lenses....

However I have a JAR Class 1 booked for tuesday, and I don't know why but decidedd to pop in to an optician and have my eyes checked out. I never knew what my prescription was previously, but it hasn't changed (confirmed by a quick call to my previous optician). The reults were as follows

R 0.0 -2.75 2
L 0.0 -3.25 179,

Much to my horror I will not even get a JAR Class 2 Medical with this!! I have held a Class 1 since 2003.

Obviously I will call Gatwick Medical Centre on Monday to find out what they have to say. However, what are the realistic chances of getting a JAR class 1?

Any advice is greatly appreciated...

Thanks

iwrbf

Hi,

Europe / JAR

Left eye: ca. 0.00 to -0.25 dioptres
Right eye: ca. -1.75 to -2.25 dioptres

No astigmatism
No other factors against a class 1 medical

- How is the UK CAA's policy about a marginal anisometropia of 1.75-2.25?

- Are there countries more tolerant about this?

- If I would take action in form of some kind of refractive surgery (Not flying, I would do this TODAY) - would they accept the new refractive error? Or would they say "Boy, you were a 2.25... we don't care what there's now..."?

- Someone here with a "been there done that" on this? :-)