VISION THREAD (other than colour vision)
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In JAA countries it is allowed to become a commercial pilot with eye surgery. However, there is a risk that after the surgery you become very sensitive to sunlight. If this happen, you cannot work as a pilot. So there is allways a risk but if the surgery goes well you´re set to go
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Cataract Surgery
Hello Every body
Any flight surgeon can advice me if the Cataract surgery will affect my fitness class , I am an A+ medical class ( no eye glasses) the doctor discovered a bigging of cataract in one eye, and he said after the operation my vision will not be affected.
Pls I need an advice.....
Thanks
Abo
Any flight surgeon can advice me if the Cataract surgery will affect my fitness class , I am an A+ medical class ( no eye glasses) the doctor discovered a bigging of cataract in one eye, and he said after the operation my vision will not be affected.
Pls I need an advice.....
Thanks
Abo
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For what it is worth, since I am in FAA land--
After a monofocal implant my eye has an uncorrected distant vision of 20/15. Near vision matches the other eye, and meets standards with simple "readers" off the rack.
You need a doctor who will take the time to match your eye with the best/correct implant. I am told that this is the step that many do not put a lot of effort into, which in turn leads to less than ideal outcomes.
Also avoid the multifocal implants, since your odds of getting 20/20 are lower, even with correction.
Certification was not an issue. Rest assured that you are not the first pilot with this problem.
After a monofocal implant my eye has an uncorrected distant vision of 20/15. Near vision matches the other eye, and meets standards with simple "readers" off the rack.
You need a doctor who will take the time to match your eye with the best/correct implant. I am told that this is the step that many do not put a lot of effort into, which in turn leads to less than ideal outcomes.
Also avoid the multifocal implants, since your odds of getting 20/20 are lower, even with correction.
Certification was not an issue. Rest assured that you are not the first pilot with this problem.
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I dont know now ......you are saying to avoid multi focal lenses and my doctors told me because I am a pilot he recommended for me the multi focal lens not the mono focal.
he said that I will need nothing after the operation to correct the vision.
any way I was searching in the web. and I found an eye drops called Can-C it gives a good results for the early stage cataract.
he said that I will need nothing after the operation to correct the vision.
any way I was searching in the web. and I found an eye drops called Can-C it gives a good results for the early stage cataract.
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The important thing is that the eye be able to be correctable to 20/20 or better. I was advised to avoid the multifocal lenses for his reason.
But I am not a medical doctor.
Given the importance of vision to our careers a second, and perhaps third, opinion would be a good idea.
But I am not a medical doctor.
Given the importance of vision to our careers a second, and perhaps third, opinion would be a good idea.
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Astonishing claims. I have never heard of this before.
Can-C N-acetylcarnosine eye-drops
I make no comment of course, but it had got my attention.
The eye I had done had already had a vitrectomy procedure - which probably caused/triggered the rapid onset cataract.
My vision is correctable to 20/20, but I'm a little disappointed that I need any correction for long distance. Most of the time I don't bother, it's not too bad. However, I'm told that if I'd had it in the UK, I would have taken pot luck with who did the procedure, and really you need to know just who's going to do it.
One place only in the south east had a good reputation, and one had a very bad reputation. Frightening, really.
It's so tempting to have the promise of variable focus, but I would really do a lot of research before you go ahead.
Can-C N-acetylcarnosine eye-drops
I make no comment of course, but it had got my attention.
The eye I had done had already had a vitrectomy procedure - which probably caused/triggered the rapid onset cataract.
My vision is correctable to 20/20, but I'm a little disappointed that I need any correction for long distance. Most of the time I don't bother, it's not too bad. However, I'm told that if I'd had it in the UK, I would have taken pot luck with who did the procedure, and really you need to know just who's going to do it.
One place only in the south east had a good reputation, and one had a very bad reputation. Frightening, really.
It's so tempting to have the promise of variable focus, but I would really do a lot of research before you go ahead.
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Yes I believe I must get a second opinion for this matter, but of coarse you r right (742), that; the final result must be correctable to the best vision results.
also I am trying to get this eye drops I wish it will work with me without need to the surgery.
and I am still worrying about the medical class, you know I still need to fly after the surgery.........for living
also I am trying to get this eye drops I wish it will work with me without need to the surgery.
and I am still worrying about the medical class, you know I still need to fly after the surgery.........for living
Plastic PPRuNer
Statement by the Royal College of Ophthalmologists
The RCO has issued the following public statement about N-acetyl carnosine:
“The evidence for the effectiveness of N-acetyl carnosine eye drops is based on experience on a small number of cases carried out by a Russian researcher team. To date, the research has not been corroborated and the results replicated by others. The long-term effect is unknown. Unfortunately, the evidence to date does not support the 'promising potential' of this drug in cataract reversal. More robust data from well conducted clinical trials on adequate sample sizes will be required to support these claims of efficacy. Furthermore, we do not feel the evidence base for the safety is in any way sufficient to recommend its use in the short term. More research is needed”.
“The evidence for the effectiveness of N-acetyl carnosine eye drops is based on experience on a small number of cases carried out by a Russian researcher team. To date, the research has not been corroborated and the results replicated by others. The long-term effect is unknown. Unfortunately, the evidence to date does not support the 'promising potential' of this drug in cataract reversal. More robust data from well conducted clinical trials on adequate sample sizes will be required to support these claims of efficacy. Furthermore, we do not feel the evidence base for the safety is in any way sufficient to recommend its use in the short term. More research is needed”.
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Confused by CAA regualtions
Hi guys. I want to start a carrer in flying but because of my right eye I wont be able to pass a Class 1 medical at the moment, due to an astigmastism in my right eye.
Right eye, Sph +1.25 Cyl -5.00 Axis 15
Left eye, Sph -1.50
Iam considering LASIK eye surgery to correct the astigmastism. I was wondering if I would pass the CAA pre-op requirements? They only state a limit of +5.00 and -6.00 on their website, does that apply to astigmatisms?
Also if my op went without complications would I be in a better positon to aquire a medical pass assuming all the other non-vision criteria are met?
Paul
Edit: 19/11
I have had an assesment for LASIK eye surgery. They say they can get my left eye to 6/5 unaided and my right eye to less than 6/9 unaided and my binocular vision to 6/5 (right now with glasses my binocular vision is 6/6) . My right eye will always be weaker due to the complexity of the problem. Hopefully it will be a matter of when and not if I can ever fly commercially.
Any comments on this would be apprectiated espically for those that have been through this procedure.
Right eye, Sph +1.25 Cyl -5.00 Axis 15
Left eye, Sph -1.50
Iam considering LASIK eye surgery to correct the astigmastism. I was wondering if I would pass the CAA pre-op requirements? They only state a limit of +5.00 and -6.00 on their website, does that apply to astigmatisms?
Also if my op went without complications would I be in a better positon to aquire a medical pass assuming all the other non-vision criteria are met?
Paul
Edit: 19/11
I have had an assesment for LASIK eye surgery. They say they can get my left eye to 6/5 unaided and my right eye to less than 6/9 unaided and my binocular vision to 6/5 (right now with glasses my binocular vision is 6/6) . My right eye will always be weaker due to the complexity of the problem. Hopefully it will be a matter of when and not if I can ever fly commercially.
Any comments on this would be apprectiated espically for those that have been through this procedure.
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Thanks guys. I called gatwick today and they said I should not get laser eye surgery just yet. They have asked me to send my latest prescription so they can have a proper look at my aided VA and general prescription. The person on the phone didnt seem phased that I have a -5.00 astigmastsm when the limit is -2.00, as it can depend on other factors??????
. Ive sent it off and fingers crossed.
Paul
. Ive sent it off and fingers crossed. Paul
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Cataract Surgery
Hello every body
Any body had a previous history with cataract surgery can tell me about:
His vision after the operation?
His medical class status?
I was diagnosed with cataract in one eye and it need surgery, my medical class is A+ and I am afraid that I will not be able to fly again after the surgery.
Pls I need help and urgent advise......
Thanxxxxxx
Any body had a previous history with cataract surgery can tell me about:
His vision after the operation?
His medical class status?
I was diagnosed with cataract in one eye and it need surgery, my medical class is A+ and I am afraid that I will not be able to fly again after the surgery.
Pls I need help and urgent advise......
Thanxxxxxx
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Is it possible for me to get a SODA for my eyesight?
Is it possible for me to get a SODA for my eyesight so I can get a commercial or ATP license?
My BCVA is 20/20 OS, 20/30 OD. I have grade 2 Retinopathy of Prematurity that has been stable for my entire life of 19-20 years.
My right eye is amblyopic, but my left eye completely compensates (I have driven my motorcycle with my right eye closed).
I have perfect monocular depth perception, color vision, and field of vision.
According to my optometrist and ophthalmologist, my right eye's acuity is steadily improving at every yearly exam.
I want to fly freighter jets, like the Boeing 747-400F.
My Dad was a supertanker captain, and I've always been fascinated by airplanes and piloting. I'd rather be in the air than bored to death at sea...at least pilots have more things to occupy their minds.
Thanks,
Doug
My BCVA is 20/20 OS, 20/30 OD. I have grade 2 Retinopathy of Prematurity that has been stable for my entire life of 19-20 years.
My right eye is amblyopic, but my left eye completely compensates (I have driven my motorcycle with my right eye closed).
I have perfect monocular depth perception, color vision, and field of vision.
According to my optometrist and ophthalmologist, my right eye's acuity is steadily improving at every yearly exam.
I want to fly freighter jets, like the Boeing 747-400F.
My Dad was a supertanker captain, and I've always been fascinated by airplanes and piloting. I'd rather be in the air than bored to death at sea...at least pilots have more things to occupy their minds.
Thanks,
Doug
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EASA CRD to NPA 2008-17c
Hi guys, I read the EASA CRD to NPA 2008-17c at the following link:
http://www.ilmailuhallinto.fi/files/...es_to_AMCs.pdf
I want to know if "The proposal to include applicants with +5 dioptres or more is accepted" at page 242, is valid for initial, revalidation or both applicants. Many thanks and regards.
PS. Good news for who has high myopia, have a look.
http://www.ilmailuhallinto.fi/files/...es_to_AMCs.pdf
I want to know if "The proposal to include applicants with +5 dioptres or more is accepted" at page 242, is valid for initial, revalidation or both applicants. Many thanks and regards.
PS. Good news for who has high myopia, have a look.
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I have read the EASA CRD to NPA 2008-17c, and at the comment #170 (if I am not wrong) pre-operative limit in the case of myopia will be removed
That's good for me, but I have still one question: what about the pre-operative limit in the case of astigmatism?
Are there any pre-operative limit in the case of astigmatism?
I would like to write to EASA regarding this question, which is their email for the medical issues?
Will these new standards help those who have already a CPL issued by an ICAO Country (USA and FAA for example)?
That's good for me, but I have still one question: what about the pre-operative limit in the case of astigmatism?Are there any pre-operative limit in the case of astigmatism?
I would like to write to EASA regarding this question, which is their email for the medical issues?
Will these new standards help those who have already a CPL issued by an ICAO Country (USA and FAA for example)?
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Squint, aka strabismus, is to be evaluated as per the following (ICAO Manual on Medical Assessment refers):-
"Screening: The applicant who is asymptomatic and has no past history of strabismus treatment with patching, orthoptics or surgery should be evaluated with regard to visual acuity, refraction, ocular motility and general health of the eyes. Ocular alignment should be tested with cover testing using the appropriate spectacle correction or contact lens correction. Sensory testing with the Worth four-dot test, measurement of stereopsis and measurement of fusional amplitudes are useful in evaluation of the binocular status.
Assessment: Applicants who do not normally pass the screening tests mentioned ought to be examined by an eye specialist. Based on a full sensory and motor evaluation of the applicant, the specialist may be able to estimate the risk of diplopia or shift in location. Symptoms of diplopia or location shift or a high risk of these would disqualify the applicant for class 1 and 2 certificates. Moderate risk of these symptoms may be acceptable for class 2 certificate. Minor risk of these symptoms may be acceptable for class 1 certification."
Hope this helps, or you may PM in case of any clarifications.
"Screening: The applicant who is asymptomatic and has no past history of strabismus treatment with patching, orthoptics or surgery should be evaluated with regard to visual acuity, refraction, ocular motility and general health of the eyes. Ocular alignment should be tested with cover testing using the appropriate spectacle correction or contact lens correction. Sensory testing with the Worth four-dot test, measurement of stereopsis and measurement of fusional amplitudes are useful in evaluation of the binocular status.
Assessment: Applicants who do not normally pass the screening tests mentioned ought to be examined by an eye specialist. Based on a full sensory and motor evaluation of the applicant, the specialist may be able to estimate the risk of diplopia or shift in location. Symptoms of diplopia or location shift or a high risk of these would disqualify the applicant for class 1 and 2 certificates. Moderate risk of these symptoms may be acceptable for class 2 certificate. Minor risk of these symptoms may be acceptable for class 1 certification."
Hope this helps, or you may PM in case of any clarifications.
