HeathrowAirport

Hi,

I was just reading the CAA medical website, vision section.

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/49/SRG_MED...%5B2189%5D.pdf

It says taking into account any astigmatism.

So is that +5.00 with the astigmatism or without? So If i was 5.00+ and astigmatism was +2.00, totaled 7.00 or is it say 3.00+ Correction and 1.50+ astigmatism or something similar?

That bits very confusing, help would be appreaciated before I throw it at D&A.

Regards,

Robbie

HeathrowAirport

Hello,

I went to my Local Opticians and booked any eye test for wednesday (next avail) and I asked him if he could check my current perscription. So he looked at my glasses and one of them (Strongest Lens) was 5.25+ Diopters. and astigmatism was 0.75

However I was once under the NHS 7 years ago, but my eyesight improved under the drops and the patch, they since kicked me out because It was no longer needed. My eyes are improving and I am needing less stronger lenses.

I am improving and the opticians did say I wont need the glasses forever, apparently, they are improving and my vision is going to normal (Not longsighted) so the strength is dicreasing. Ill let you guys know what I get wednesday night.

So will the CAA allow me with that or can I kiss goodbye to a dream unless I loose 1.0 Diopter of correction? Also havent been in a year and these glasses need an upgrade me thinks.

I dont understand, If I can read up close, If I can see British Airways on the side of an aircraft were it is 4000ft above my house then why is there a restriction on how strong your glasses are? I understand thats its there for a reason, but what reason? Its sad but hey thats all thats stopping me getting my class 1

I have also heard some go over the + limits and still get a License due other factors. I am not sure, but thats what I was told.

Regards,

R..

AceSkyCaptain

Hi Guys,

Have an history of Peripheral Retinal Hole very small one. will that affect my initial Class 1 medicals.


Regards,
AceSkyCaptain

HEATHROW DIRECTOR

As has been suggested on here many times..... why not bell SRG and ask them? That's the way to get the answer you are after.

cottam approach

Heathrow Director; I tried speaking to them about my eye condition (iritis) and they were unable to help me over the telephone. I was told to collate all my medical history and send it to them (am currently in the process of doing this but it is no mean feat) Understandable, i know, but in the meantime it's nice to put the feelers out, say on this forum, to see if anyone has any experience of said ailment/disease/condition.

HeathrowAirport

HD thanks, they have told me as also like cottam approach; to write to them due to confidentially.

Regards,

R..

HEATHROW DIRECTOR

OK guys. They're frequently very helpful indeed, as I know from personal experience.

HeathrowAirport

HD,

Yes they are, I replied back telling them so. I know being rude becuase they could not jump to me straight away wont get me anywere either. So I replied nicely.

I wonder if they take into account that my prescription is dropping and that the glasses will make my eyesight 20/20 0.00 correction almost. To pass me on a C1 on that basis. I do know a few that have had worse eyesight than me pass. 0.25 Diopters over(bad) and 1.25 Diopters under the astig max (good )


Regardsm

Robbie

HeathrowAirport

Right Eye SPH:+5.00 CYL:0.50 AXIS:10 6/5
Left Eye SPH +6.00 CYL 0.75 AXIS 40 6/12
Both Eye S 6/5

With both eyes and right I am 20/20, with left I am 20/40

My Biggest let down is my lazy eye, maybe that dream job ever since I saw Concorde take off at Heathrow is now down the drain for both Private and Commercial and was just a dream. Everything is good apart from that correction on the left eye is 1.00 Diopter over Just a question does anybody know anyone with more worse eyesight than me that flys? I will be sending that to the CAA medical as requested and let them decide my life forever.

Regards,

R..

woltgreat

There is me!
I am currently completing my FAA multi addon in the US...and I have one eye with -7.00 of myopia (read the first post of this page).
I wrote to the guys of Gatwick explaining my situation, I hold an FAA class 1 and an FAA CPL and I am currently waiting for their reply via post cause I want to know if I am eligible for a restricted JAA class 1, that would be enough for me since I am gonna have eye surgery in a short time.

Don't stop dreaming, ask them if they would issue you a class 1 if you came back with an FAA class 1 + CPL...if so start packing your bag, find a school in the US and good luck!

HeathrowAirport

On another note its cheaper out there right?

And Ill wait and see what the CAA say, when did you send yours? If you dont mind me asking?

Will I pass an FAA medical on the Vision basis? And why is there such a high limit like -6 on the Diopters and a low limit on the + Diopters? Also the - Diopters shortsight you can get a retinal detachment, I wonder why with longsight theres a limit of 5 not 6.

Anyone know whom I can contact over there to find out?

Regards,

Robbie

woltgreat

Hi,
don't worry, I don't mind you asking.
I sent them my prescription 9 days ago and I'll get a reply withing 2 weeks or less I guess. I really don't know why JAA put these stupid limits cutting the wings to a lot of people like us...I only know that there isn't an actual reason, JAA rules are not producing better results than the FAA ones, in the other side of the world a lot of people who wouldn't be fit in Europe fly and some of them are also captains able to ditch and aircraft without any fatalities...

I could fly a 777 in the US...and not even be able to get a class 1 in another place.
No answer...

HeathrowAirport

I mean I just cant get around that 1.00 Diopter will ruin everything I have worked hard for in school, work experience and stuff like that, and my targets and goals to be a pilot may go down the drain quicker than I thought.

I hope they give you a JAR Class 1.

So will the FAA allow me though? Or fail me, how can I found out for sure?

I am jumping to conclusions as the CAA mite let me off, I mean with them results they meet 95% of there requirements, nothing abnormal.. pressure and colorblindness was good. Only problem was the Correction the left eye was 1.00 Diopter over. I really really cant imagine me not flying a plane. I cant really see something I have set my eyes on will let me down.

1.00 Diopter.. GOD HELP ME! Such a small number aye?

Regards,

Robbie

woltgreat

Hey Robbie,
don't desperate, ok?...nothing is said.
I know what it feels like, I passed through the same, but UK is for all of us a light in the tunnel.

Look here the FAA requirements:

Federal Aviation Regulations / Part 67 / FAA Medical Certification

If you are in the requirements for class 1 I would suggest you to try this, cause they would probably issue you the JAA class 1 after the FAA CPL + FAA class 1.
Ask them everything, what they would do in that event, but 90% they will accept this route...and they aren't giving you nothing for free, everything it's written here, "ICAO License holders" section:

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/49/SRG_Med...olicyJan07.pdf

Are you ok for the JAA renewal requirements, aren't you?
Don't lose your hopes, in the past I lost mine after a JAA examination that said "unfit" but I am still fighting for it, and I don't how why but at the end I found something able to give me hopes.
Anyway, if the rules don't change start considering having an eye surgery AFTER the JAA class 1, cause if they issue the medical with the long-term deviation the only way to remove it (if the regs don't change) is to have the surgery.
It's exactly what I am planning to do, if they let me do.

Now I ask a question: how old are you?

Don't lose your hope, remember of people like me!!

HeathrowAirport

Hi Again,

I think I might meet FAA straight away, but not sure.

However reading this I might be able to get a Deviation due my left eye right?
Mine is +6L and +5R with 20/20 both and right. Left eye is 20/40.

My eyesight is improving, just I cannot do anything about that left eye, its improving in terms of longsight but will always be lazy. I am 16.

Is there any deviation for +5D

Regards,

Robbie

HeathrowAirport

I have just been reading that Deviation policy and it does not or say they can say no, they mite give me a long term or short term Deviation. But that could be my appeal, there deviation policy.

Regards,

Robbie

woltgreat

Hi,

the short-term deviation policy does not exist anymore, the only one still existing is the long-term one.
As far as I can see you're pretty young...why so worried then?
It is very likely that the JAA rules are gonna change in two\three years, right when you will be old enough to start your ATPL course.

Or, in alternative, you can take the FAA route as I did...but be careful, the thing you quoted it's not talking about + dioptres but about - dioptres...

Anyway the same applies to + dioptres, and you can extend the requirements until the renewal ones if you hold an FAA CPL + FAA class 1.

HeathrowAirport

Hi,

I wish to start my PPL, under a Class 1, As I have been told to always take the higher medical, as if they change and you once held it, and you only meet Class 2 you can gain a Class 1 once again. If thats BS, I am not sure but, I don't mind as long as I can become a pilot.

And weres that stated?

And yes I know, thats why I was wondering if there is no deviation or a limit to the deviation applied. I do prefer to live and work in the UK, but it all depends on there verdict right?

Thanks very much for your help, it has boosted my hopes a bit. Feel proud for that

Regards,

Robbie

woltgreat

In the file I showed you, in this part:

The only deviation that still applies is the long-term one and only if you hold an ICAO CPL, in the event you fall outside the initial standard but within the revalidation:

Once you got your "long-term deviated" class 1 you want to remove the deviation. How?

So you have two choices:

1)You wait for the regulations to change.
2)You find a way to make the "medical condition not to be present anymore", as they want. In other words, you decide to have an eye surgery to have your problem removed. Once you have done this, you will have a new examination and they will remove the deviation.

Hope this helps!

HeathrowAirport

It says only for -D not +, It does not mention the + Deviation if there is any at all.

There will be no short-term deviation route for new initial class 1 applicants whose refractive error falls between –6D (the new initial limit) and –8D (the previous revalidation limit which no longer exists).

So Is it the US route for me for now? Or will they give me a Long term Deviation in the UK, that allows me to train and fly in the UK?

Also there visual acuity is 20/20.

Mine is 20/20 using both, but left on its own is 20/40. Will that fail or pass FAA Requirements?

Regards,

Robbie