CAA unrestricting JAA Class 1 medical
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hello, I visited the CAA aeromedical centre last November 15th and received a restricted Class 1 medical because I failed the Holmes-Wright lantern.
So I did what the ophtalmologist suggest me to do, i.e. make the Nagel Anomaloscope test.
I succesfully passed it and now I'm wondering which is the best and quickest way to let the doctors receive the sheet and then, make my Class 1 unrestricted!
The problem is I've been sending about 10 emails in the past 2 weeks asking informations but i never received a reply!!
Would anybody suggest me to personally go there or should I just send them the Anomaloscope test results via some express courier such as DHl or TNT...?
Thank you
So I did what the ophtalmologist suggest me to do, i.e. make the Nagel Anomaloscope test.
I succesfully passed it and now I'm wondering which is the best and quickest way to let the doctors receive the sheet and then, make my Class 1 unrestricted!
The problem is I've been sending about 10 emails in the past 2 weeks asking informations but i never received a reply!!
Would anybody suggest me to personally go there or should I just send them the Anomaloscope test results via some express courier such as DHl or TNT...?
Thank you
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Well done!
1. Take a photocopy of the test results.
2. Take a photocopy of your licence.
3. Write a letter saying that you did what they asked you to do.
4. Place in envelope 1 x letter, 1 x licence, 1 x test results.
5. Send to Med Divsion, SRG at CAA.
6. Retain photocopies until you receive the reals back.
Job done.
G
1. Take a photocopy of the test results.
2. Take a photocopy of your licence.
3. Write a letter saying that you did what they asked you to do.
4. Place in envelope 1 x letter, 1 x licence, 1 x test results.
5. Send to Med Divsion, SRG at CAA.
6. Retain photocopies until you receive the reals back.
Job done.
G
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hi,
do you think I'd better to go there personally?
a friend of mine who in 2002 experienced the same situation I've been going through, told me the CAA kept him waiting for 1 or 2 months before he received his Class 1 unrestricted into his mailbox!
Do you think such a thing may happen to me aswell?
I'm pretty scared about that and I can't really waste so much time!
do you think I'd better to go there personally?
a friend of mine who in 2002 experienced the same situation I've been going through, told me the CAA kept him waiting for 1 or 2 months before he received his Class 1 unrestricted into his mailbox!
Do you think such a thing may happen to me aswell?
I'm pretty scared about that and I can't really waste so much time!
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They will send you your medical whatever you do, you cannot get it sorted at Gatwick as far as I know. but as always there is only one place to get this info from, the CAA medical deptartment! Give them a call and ask them what to do and if you can come visit them.
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Hi Alberto,
Where did you do the test?? In Italy? And how where the conditions and the way of testing??
Is it possible to discribe the procedure from the beginning till the end??
Just like you it is really important for my future.
Thanks and succes with the training
greetz,
White
Where did you do the test?? In Italy? And how where the conditions and the way of testing??
Is it possible to discribe the procedure from the beginning till the end??
Just like you it is really important for my future.
Thanks and succes with the training
greetz,
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Alberto,
My advice, as above, is send it. Going to the the CAA will achieve nothing and it will only annoy you.
Why?
Well you'll see where all the money goes and why it costs so much to fly in the UK. Lots of people shuffling bits of paper around looking important - it's a mega-bureaucracy!!
You going there will not make it happen any faster.
G
My advice, as above, is send it. Going to the the CAA will achieve nothing and it will only annoy you.
Why?
Well you'll see where all the money goes and why it costs so much to fly in the UK. Lots of people shuffling bits of paper around looking important - it's a mega-bureaucracy!!
You going there will not make it happen any faster.
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hi guys,
some people suggested me not to go back to Gatiwck becasue it wouldn't have made things easier, so today I've sent the test result via DHL and I suppose I'll receive my full JAA class 1 in January or so..!
whitelabel, I had the test in the Aeromedicial centre we have in Bari, which is one of the three existing in Italy.
before I explain what the test consisted in I want you to know that you may not access that test if you come here.
and the reason is quite simple: all the Aeromecial centres in Italy never allow people to have singular tests but just the full medical, this means that if you want to have a simple anomaloscope test...an eye-sight test...a vestibular test...well, you only have to know someone among the doctors, and he/she will let you do what you need.
those who simply ask the booking office to make this or that test will be answered : "sorry, we only provide full medicals, not singular tests..your query is pretty strange !!"....
That's the way of managing some thing s,here.
Now i'll give you a description of the Anomaloscope test: the Nagel's Anomalocope looks like a microscope, you sit in front of a desk where the device is located and you look right into the lens.
you see a circle divided into 2 semi-circles.
The upper one will be colored in green ,and the lower one in red.
both the colors are adjustable through 2 small switches so that you can obtain a very light or dark green/red.
the aim of this test is to regulate the swithces in order to make the two semicircles alike or as much similar as possible.
The test will generate an equation that shows if there's any color blindness andof what intensity.
I think it is a very easy test though, it has nothing to do with the holmes-wright lantern which I assume it's not a very "democratic" test.
If you have any further question I'll be glad to help you!
some people suggested me not to go back to Gatiwck becasue it wouldn't have made things easier, so today I've sent the test result via DHL and I suppose I'll receive my full JAA class 1 in January or so..!
whitelabel, I had the test in the Aeromedicial centre we have in Bari, which is one of the three existing in Italy.
before I explain what the test consisted in I want you to know that you may not access that test if you come here.
and the reason is quite simple: all the Aeromecial centres in Italy never allow people to have singular tests but just the full medical, this means that if you want to have a simple anomaloscope test...an eye-sight test...a vestibular test...well, you only have to know someone among the doctors, and he/she will let you do what you need.
those who simply ask the booking office to make this or that test will be answered : "sorry, we only provide full medicals, not singular tests..your query is pretty strange !!"....
That's the way of managing some thing s,here.
Now i'll give you a description of the Anomaloscope test: the Nagel's Anomalocope looks like a microscope, you sit in front of a desk where the device is located and you look right into the lens.
you see a circle divided into 2 semi-circles.
The upper one will be colored in green ,and the lower one in red.
both the colors are adjustable through 2 small switches so that you can obtain a very light or dark green/red.
the aim of this test is to regulate the swithces in order to make the two semicircles alike or as much similar as possible.
The test will generate an equation that shows if there's any color blindness andof what intensity.
I think it is a very easy test though, it has nothing to do with the holmes-wright lantern which I assume it's not a very "democratic" test.
If you have any further question I'll be glad to help you!
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Ha Alberto thanks for the info. Do you want to know why I asked this to you?
I already did the Nagel Anomaloscope in Holland and I had strange feelings after the test.
This white blue machine had indeed 2 turning knobs to adjust the colour and intesity. The lady from the AMC told me to use ONLY the lower knob and not the upper one. I spoke to more people (who did this test in another country) and the told me that you have to use 2 turning knobs to be successful.
I talked to the lady and she really said only the lower knob.
This is a link wirh a picture of the machine. It is exactly the one that I used.
http://www.argusoptik.hu/minimum_elemei/hmc.htm
If someone can give me some advice I would be thankfull
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I already did the Nagel Anomaloscope in Holland and I had strange feelings after the test.
This white blue machine had indeed 2 turning knobs to adjust the colour and intesity. The lady from the AMC told me to use ONLY the lower knob and not the upper one. I spoke to more people (who did this test in another country) and the told me that you have to use 2 turning knobs to be successful.
I talked to the lady and she really said only the lower knob.
This is a link wirh a picture of the machine. It is exactly the one that I used.
http://www.argusoptik.hu/minimum_elemei/hmc.htm
If someone can give me some advice I would be thankfull
Regards
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you can't make an Anomaloscope test without using both the turning knobs, reallt not.
I'm almost sure the woman who assisted you during the test was completely unprepared!
the lower know adjusts only the lower semircicle, so how the hell could you make the semircicles look similar?
From wht you said, I suppose you didn't pass the test, did you?
Anyway I'm sure the anomalocope test is conducted by usinng both the knobs, that's fundamental.
I'm almost sure the woman who assisted you during the test was completely unprepared!
the lower know adjusts only the lower semircicle, so how the hell could you make the semircicles look similar?
From wht you said, I suppose you didn't pass the test, did you?
Anyway I'm sure the anomalocope test is conducted by usinng both the knobs, that's fundamental.
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Alberto,
Your conclusion is correct. I failed the test. Did you use the same machine? or something similar?
I want to try it somewhere else because I don't trust these people any longer.
I really asked it twice and she was the head opthomology!!!
greetzzz,
chris
Ps. Alberto,
Was it possible to match every combination.
The doctor told me that it was not possible to match every combination.
for example:
1e circle -- not possible to match.
2e circle -- not possible to match.
3e circle -- can be matched.
etc.
Is this correct. My vision about this is much more logic.
Give a person 5 circles to match (which are matchable) and calculate the average deviation. simple as that.
greetz
white
Your conclusion is correct. I failed the test. Did you use the same machine? or something similar?
I want to try it somewhere else because I don't trust these people any longer.
I really asked it twice and she was the head opthomology!!!
greetzzz,
chris
Ps. Alberto,
Was it possible to match every combination.
The doctor told me that it was not possible to match every combination.
for example:
1e circle -- not possible to match.
2e circle -- not possible to match.
3e circle -- can be matched.
etc.
Is this correct. My vision about this is much more logic.
Give a person 5 circles to match (which are matchable) and calculate the average deviation. simple as that.
greetz
white
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hi again whitelabel,
I suggest you to have another Nagel Anomaloscope test in Switzerland or Germany,or somewhere else which is not the place where that idiot made you fail it!!
I know for sure both the turning knobs must be used, and this seems to be pretty obvios now.
The machine you showed me looks pretty the same that I've used here!
but i didn't get the 1e 2e and 3e circles matter.
The Anomaloscope I was tested on showed only one circle, and i had to make the semicircles it was divided into look as much similar as possible, if not alike!
the result in my test was closer to a rather
darkened red and green. That's all about this I suppose.
anyway, I've heard there are 2 or 3 types of anomaloscope, so we may have used different ones!but I'm sure that you failed it because of that assistant who really didn't know how to make that test.
I'm sorry for what happened to you...but you know...., things are
never easy with medicals!!
Keep me posted anyway, ciao!!
I suggest you to have another Nagel Anomaloscope test in Switzerland or Germany,or somewhere else which is not the place where that idiot made you fail it!!
I know for sure both the turning knobs must be used, and this seems to be pretty obvios now.
The machine you showed me looks pretty the same that I've used here!
but i didn't get the 1e 2e and 3e circles matter.
The Anomaloscope I was tested on showed only one circle, and i had to make the semicircles it was divided into look as much similar as possible, if not alike!
the result in my test was closer to a rather
darkened red and green. That's all about this I suppose.
anyway, I've heard there are 2 or 3 types of anomaloscope, so we may have used different ones!but I'm sure that you failed it because of that assistant who really didn't know how to make that test.
I'm sorry for what happened to you...but you know...., things are
never easy with medicals!!
Keep me posted anyway, ciao!!
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Alberto,
Some things are clear to me know. I will contact an AMC asap.
Do you have some addresses/E-mail for me. I will write them all and ask them a fewquestions.
And of I will keep you posted as well.
greetings from Amsterdam
Some things are clear to me know. I will contact an AMC asap.
Do you have some addresses/E-mail for me. I will write them all and ask them a fewquestions.
And of I will keep you posted as well.
greetings from Amsterdam
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hi again,
The easiest way for me to pass the contact details to you is by means of the following link, which will give you the names, addresses phone numbers, etc. for each country.
http://www.jaa.nl/licensing/amc.html
I hope this will help you!
ciao, and I wish you a merry christmas
The easiest way for me to pass the contact details to you is by means of the following link, which will give you the names, addresses phone numbers, etc. for each country.
http://www.jaa.nl/licensing/amc.html
I hope this will help you!
ciao, and I wish you a merry christmas
