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ORAC 5th Jul 2021 07:12

Russian Champagne….
 
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/o...utin-fml2b92vl

Only our champagne is the real thing, decrees Putin

High-rolling Russians could face a shortage of French fizz after the Kremlin ruled that only wine produced in Russia could be sold as champagne.

The law, approved by President Putin, means that the French product will have to be sold as “sparkling wine”.

French suppliers were surprised by the ruling. One producer said that providers might refuse to rename their wines and effectively end imports.

Moët Hennessy said that it had suspended deliveries while it rebranded its bottles.

The company’s Moscow office had claimed that French producers were not prepared to change the name of their product for the Russian market, adding that delivery would be banned until a solution could be found…..

Russian businessmen struggled to understand the reasoning behind the law, which critics said was adopted without consulting industry experts.

“If we cannot import products, the state is simply shooting itself in the foot,” Maxim Kashirin, the head of the Simple wine company, told the RBC media group website. “It is no secret that Russia will not be able to meet its needs without imports.”

The move was mocked on social media. “War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Champagne is not Champagne,” Dmitry Kozlov, a Russian journalist, posted in a reference to the slogans used by officials in 1984, the George Orwell novel.

Less Hair 5th Jul 2021 07:19

How many years will it take until Russia will want to rebrand those names again?

clareprop 5th Jul 2021 08:10


Only our champagne is the real thing, decrees Putin
Of course, he's never actually had to drink Georgian 'Champagne'.

Sallyann1234 5th Jul 2021 08:47

Is it April 1st again already?
Knowing how fiercely the French champagne producers protect their brand, would they actually agree to remove it even for a large market like Russia?

clareprop 5th Jul 2021 09:18


Knowing how fiercely the French champagne producers protect their brand, would they actually agree to remove it even for a large market like Russia?
Personally, I think not...but it would be amusing to see 'méthode georgian' written on the label.

Less Hair 5th Jul 2021 09:20

Méthode Krimskoye.

ChrisVJ 5th Jul 2021 17:22

Putin's daughter owns a Vineyard?

tdracer 5th Jul 2021 19:03

I always thought it a little bizarre that - in the US - you can call pretty much any sparkling wine "Champagne", where is in much of the world it can only be called "Champagne" if it's produced in the Champagne area of France.
But it's completely over that top if Russia says you can't call it "Champagne" unless it isn't produced in the Champagne area of France :ugh:.
It really is like something out of '1984'.

Less Hair 5th Jul 2021 19:07

How about Coca Cola or Pepsi? Maybe they must be labeled "Kwas" next and "Kwas" will be labeled "Coke"?

Ancient Mariner 5th Jul 2021 22:31


Originally Posted by tdracer (Post 11073764)
I always thought it a little bizarre that - in the US - you can call pretty much any sparkling wine "Champagne", where is in much of the world it can only be called "Champagne" if it's produced in the Champagne area of France.
But it's completely over that top if Russia says you can't call it "Champagne" unless it isn't produced in the Champagne area of France :ugh:.
It really is like something out of '1984'.

Interesting read re US Champagne.
US bubbles explained

Winemaker 5th Jul 2021 22:44


Originally Posted by tdracer (Post 11073764)
I always thought it a little bizarre that - in the US - you can call pretty much any sparkling wine "Champagne", where is in much of the world it can only be called "Champagne" if it's produced in the Champagne area of France.

No you can't. Absolutely not allowed except that

...the American government agreed that California Champagne, Chablis, Sherry and a half-dozen other ‘semi-generic’ names would no longer appear on domestic wine labels – that is unless a producer was already using one of those names.
and the TTB will not approve your label if you do. And France will probably sue you....

Ninthace 5th Jul 2021 22:48

Bubbly by the methode champenoise is a British invention. Mr Putin will be hearing from our lawyers!

https://www.adamsmith.org/blog/champ...-an-englishman

tdracer 6th Jul 2021 00:14


Originally Posted by Winemaker (Post 11073870)
No you can't. Absolutely not allowed except that..
and the TTB will not approve your label if you do. And France will probably sue you....

So, only sparking wines that have been around for at least 15 years. Not much of a limitation - if you look in the wine aisle of most any store in Washington state, 90% of the Champagne isn't from France.

P.S. Ancient Mariner - thanks for link.


Winemaker 6th Jul 2021 00:33

French Champagne - merde. Mogen David 20/20 - excellente. Even better might be Annie Green Springs Apple Wine....... But seriously, some of the Oregon Chardonnay/Pinot Noir sparklings are really good, as are some of the Pinots.

alicopter 6th Jul 2021 01:54

Wine, beer, cider, vinaigre, olive oil, tea, in my opinion all are a matter of, at 10% taste buds and 90% brain. I make 1700 litres of cider per year from my apple trees and I think it is the very best in the world. Every time I drink it, it takes me back to very good times when I was 5 or 6 years old, on holidays at the family farm and was tasked to go to the cellar and draw a jar. It has family and happiness in every single glass. Yet, I take a couple of bottles to drink to my cousin's who lives ten kilometres from my farm and I will unashamedly tell you it is the very worst donkey's piss in the world and only the tinkling of the porcelaine top hitting the glass gives me pleasure... Al go get a "miau d'bère" (Normand for Al go get some cider) and I go back into my shorts and having three or ten sips from the jar between the cellar and the table... All in the head.

Krystal n chips 6th Jul 2021 05:38

Champagne..over rated, over hyped and over priced, probably the reason it's so popular.

D.I.Y Champagne. Take one bottle of bog standard white wine, place under one of those "Sodastream " devices, a few quick squirts and..voila !

Purists may possibly not entirely agree with the above.

The Nr Fairy 6th Jul 2021 07:25

This sparkling wine from Waitrose is as good as any French "champagne". https://www.waitrosecellar.com/fine-...kling-burgundy

Tartiflette Fan 6th Jul 2021 15:42


Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 (Post 11073440)
Is it April 1st again already?
Knowing how fiercely the French champagne producers protect their brand, would they actually agree to remove it even for a large market like Russia?

AFAIK they are not being asked to remove it, but print in Russian "Sparkling Wine " on the label.

Sallyann1234 6th Jul 2021 17:25

In that case the linked Times article is wrong, because it says


the Kremlin ruled that only wine produced in Russia could be sold as champagne.

clareprop 6th Jul 2021 21:15

The solution will be: Игристое вино, производимое в Шампани


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