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Pontius Navigator 24th Jan 2020 13:34


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 10670243)
Government has announced they are calling a Cobra Committee meeting concerning the coronavirus.

Did they do this over SARS or MERS?

Hope it's tasty
😁

Fareastdriver 24th Jan 2020 14:59

As a guide to how fast they can build things in China one of the picture in the Australian news item shows blue buildings next to the site.

The are the constructor's accommodation built before they start work.

Krystal n chips 24th Jan 2020 15:01

Just to ensure the UK population have no misconceptions about the virus, the usual rags have thoughtfully made us aware with all the alarmism they can muster.

Credit, as always, to the Mail and the photograph ......taken in Glasgow it seems......coming soon " Glasgow in quarantine ! Mail exclusive ! "



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-51230904

meadowrun 24th Jan 2020 16:44

That hospital supposedly is all pre-fab buildings. Prepare the ground, bring them in, connect, wire up, bring in the equipment and furnishings.
Lego Hospital.
However it's indicative of something that they need a whole new hospital so early.

back to Boeing 24th Jan 2020 17:31

Listening to the news it’s because they plan on putting everyone suspected of the virus in to isolation. In a city of what 11 million with 800 cases already, that’s going to overwhelm any current facilities.

NutLoose 24th Jan 2020 18:29


Originally Posted by Fareastdriver (Post 10670454)
As a guide to how fast they can build things in China one of the picture in the Australian news item shows blue buildings next to the site.

The are the constructor's accommodation built before they start work.

If you haven't seen it I would recommend you watch Supersized Earth series, it was on BBC 2 but is on Iplayer i believe. The sheer size of some of their projects is eye watering, they are building a raised aqua duct from the South to the North 700 miles long! They built a road ( The G50 ) that is 1200 miles long and includes the worlds highest bridges 1/2 kilometre high! In fact 9 of them, they have built from the 100 miles of express way roads they had in 1989 to 60,000 miles now!

finncapt 24th Jan 2020 18:34

I haven't read all the thread but how many people die in Wuhan of "flu (of various kinds)" every winter.

Should this not be put into perspective?

Oh, I forgot, it doesn't sell newspapers and the WHO cannot claim to have avoided the destruction of the world.

Smacks of the climate change debate.

Ensures tax payers money for "scientists" I suppose.

Fareastdriver 24th Jan 2020 18:49


They built a road ( The G50 ) that is 1200 miles long and includes the worlds highest bridges 1/2 kilometre high! In fact 9 of them, they have built from the 100 miles of express way roads they had in 1989 to 60,000 miles now!
The big advantage they have is they do not have tree huggers. Should your house be in the way then they give you a new apartment nearby and demolish your old place. They can do this because there is no freehold, all land belongs to the State.

The HS2 railway project would be finished and old hat by now.

NutLoose 24th Jan 2020 19:00

Even in Europe it shows the greenhouses of the EU in Spain the costa del sol is covered in plastic greenhouses.... And the meat production in Brasil. All fascinating stuff.

Ancient Mariner 24th Jan 2020 19:54


Originally Posted by Fareastdriver (Post 10670603)
The big advantage they have is they do not have tree huggers. Should your house be in the way then they give you a new apartment nearby and demolish your old place. They can do this because there is no freehold, all land belongs to the State.

The HS2 railway project would be finished and old hat by now.

Got a contract for a water treatment plant in the Guangzhou province in '91. Usual stuff after signing, all the high ranking officials and us, plus a TV crew out in a field, maps upside down and very thoughtful expressions on every face. Behind us, a group av farmers harvesting crops, blissfully unaware of the fact that in two days bulldozers would take care of the left overs. Still have the video, much laughing every time us old China hands meet up for a drink, or several. Happy times.
Efficient? Yes! Humane? Not so much.
Per

ORAC 25th Jan 2020 06:04

Reported cases and fatalities both just about doubled overnight - now 1300 and 41 respectively.

jolihokistix 25th Jan 2020 07:12

Multiple news sources now reporting that carriers with no conscious symptoms have been discovered in China. The fear is that these people are continuing to spread it unawares. (One whole family who were in contact with a relative in hospital were all found to be infected with the new virus, but not all had recognizable symptoms.)

LGW Vulture 25th Jan 2020 07:20

I wonder in this same period, how many people in Wuhan have died as a result of "regular" flu?

BehindBlueEyes 25th Jan 2020 08:22

This all stems from the cultural preference in the Far East for fresh, warm meat. The animals are kept in sometimes unsanitary conditions and slaughtered onsite at “wet markets” There are no checks for diseased or unwell animals so they enter the food chain allowing for easy cross contamination. I suspect it possibly wasn’t even an exotic animal that originated the initial transmission. Until there is a change in mindset in this practise, there will continue to be these outbreaks as in SARS, Avian flu and swine fever.

SpringHeeledJack 25th Jan 2020 08:44

I think that as most, if not all, the carriers of the virus who travelled to other countries in the last few weeks will have have passed it on to people who came into close contact with them, that there will be quite a few more cases around the world. My feeling is that the virus in itself isn't super dangerous, more like a strong flu in effect. However, as so many have/will be affected, it will cause major disruption to cities where the authorities can't cope with the sudden influx of ill citizens.

KelvinD 25th Jan 2020 08:57

Re the new hospital being built in Wuhan: News reports say they aim to have it finished and equipped within 10 days! 10 days for a 1,000 bed hospital. And they have form, they did the same in Peking for the SARS outbreak.
Meanwhile, look at the fiasco at the Royal Liverpool hospital, not Carillion's finest hour! Still not completed, estimated completion date is now 2022, 5 years late! "difficulties" both during and post Carillion's involvement included surveys that revealed concrete beams were rubbish and had to be ripped out and reinstalled. And the plumbing, electrical wiring, external cladding etc etc. All found to be gash and needed urgent remedial actions.

OldCessna 25th Jan 2020 12:38


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 10670930)
Reported cases and fatalities both just about doubled overnight - now 1300 and 41 respectively.


Whereas according to a September 2019 study by Chinese scientists in The Lancet, there are an average of around 88,100 influenza-related deaths every year in China, with a mortality rate of between 1.6% and 2.6%. The majority of those who died as a result of the flu were aged over 60, the report said

Pontius Navigator 25th Jan 2020 15:55

Heard they are going to build a second hospital.

What about staff,volunteers from other regions? 😀

nonsense 25th Jan 2020 16:03


Originally Posted by jolihokistix (Post 10670028)
Menu showing what was for sale in the market for human consumption, according to Beijing local paper 新京報
includes snakes, civet cat, bamboo rat, scorpion, koala, badger, geese, peacock, fox, crocodile, etc.

Colour me skeptical...


Originally Posted by LGW Vulture (Post 10670970)
I wonder in this same period, how many people in Wuhan have died as a result of "regular" flu?

Much the same number as this time last year, whereas this outbreak has the potential to increase exponentially to vast numbers in a matter of weeks.

ORAC 25th Jan 2020 18:22

One hopes not true and vastly exaggerated. AFP plus three separate sources.


AFP: #BREAKING President Xi warns virus is 'accelerating', country facing 'grave situation': state media







https://www.snafu-solomon.com/2020/0...ng-me-now.html


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