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WingNut60 3rd Jun 2020 07:26


Originally Posted by megan (Post 10800619)
.............. I regularly see Labor politicians writing opinion pieces in the "Oz", Graham Richardson is a regular author, almost daily, what are his political leanings?

Good question. He hardly fits the mould of a "true believer". No John Curtins on those party boats.
There is the N.S.W. Right, and then there is Graham Richardson.

JustinHeywood 3rd Jun 2020 08:29

...Not to mention Phillip Adams, also a prominent and excellent weekly contributor to the Oz the who certainly doesn’t hide his left politics.

The OZ ‘letters to the editor’ page is usually a lot more politically diverse than you will find in Fairfax papers, (SMH, Canberra Times anyway).

All media is biased. Those who rant about media bias, inferring that ‘their’ source is neutral, are kidding themselves.

Fliegenmong 3rd Jun 2020 08:54

Dammit!! One of those Gillard / Rudd booby trap - land mine hidden thingys went off and we we're in recession!!

Crownstay01 3rd Jun 2020 11:27


Originally Posted by megan (Post 10800619)
Oddly enough I regularly see Labor politicians writing opinion pieces in the "Oz", Graham Richardson is a regular author, almost daily, what are his political leanings?

You're doing that blow-in thing again. Richardson is a classic shonk from the ALP Right. His only leanings are to enrich himself.

Crownstay01 3rd Jun 2020 12:57


Originally Posted by CoodaShooda (Post 10800519)
Not so much a left wing writer but a left wing opinion was the NT News editorial calling on voters to support Labor at the last Federal Election. They thought Labor would win and we needed a voice in the tent. A bit like Peter Van Onselen in that regard, a regular contributor to the Australian.

PvO a leftie, or someone who puts forward left wing views? Too funny.


But perhaps the question should be, who are the left wing writers who are refused publication in the Murdoch papers?
That's on a par with asking if someone still bashes their wife. I made no claim to that effect.

601 4th Jun 2020 00:33


we we're in recession!!
Oh dear we are all doomed.

Ascend Charlie 4th Jun 2020 06:36

The Covid restrictions apply to all law-abiding citizens, and we will be fined for not observing social distancing.

But the yobbos and professional trouble-makers are allowed to gather in mobs of 10,000+ to protest about something that happened 6000 miles away. is this a way of removing them from the gene pool by letting them catch the corona?

601 4th Jun 2020 13:13


But the yobbos and professional trouble-makers are allowed to gather in mobs of 10,000+ to protest about something that happened 6000 miles away. is this a way of removing them from the gene pool by letting them catch the corona?
Old Darwin will be rubbing his hands.

Ascend Charlie 5th Jun 2020 06:47

Seems like the Premiers have realised the contradiction and declared the protest illegal, with police intervention if the yobs get too close to each other.

The blue touch paper is ready, the match is lit, stand by for ignition.

CoodaShooda 5th Jun 2020 10:45

Let them march. Then corral them, fine them and find some detention centres to allow them to do 14 days quarantine.

There must be some left over from the Rudd illegal entry days.

clark y 5th Jun 2020 20:22

As for the Black Live Matters marches around the country, I don't feel much good will come of it. I'm guessing rent a crowd will be out stirring trouble, there will be the mandatory scuffles with police (including the ones where parents take their children into the mix), and possibly looting for no good reason. I really hope I'm wrong.
Under the current COVID-19 restrictions, the large social gathering aspect is not legal in many, if not all areas.
Victoria technically still has a state of emergency declared, I'm not sure what that means with respect to law enforcement and punishment for today's planned event.

At the end of the day, will anything related to the advertised reason of the march be resolved or will it just divide us more?

CoodaShooda 5th Jun 2020 23:00

I thought the whole purpose of labelling discrete groups as victims was to divide and, ultimately, destroy western society.

Is deaths in custody a major item in the litany of problems besetting the aboriginal population? Statistically, not even close to it. But it’s a label that resonates.

Crownstay01 23rd Jun 2020 00:11


Originally Posted by WingNut60 (Post 10800626)
Good question. He hardly fits the mould of a "true believer". No John Curtins on those party boats.

No, there aren't. I also doubt that John Curtin would have had a cosy business relationship with the likes of Renee Rivkin, or been a major shareholder in Alpine Offset, or benefit from the insurance payout when that company's premises were destroyed by a convenient fire.

Crownstay01 23rd Jun 2020 00:16


Originally Posted by JustinHeywood (Post 10800684)
All media is biased. Those who rant about media bias, inferring that ‘their’ source is neutral, are kidding themselves.

You seem to be having a fight with your own imagination, and losing. Nowhere did I claim to have a neutral source of media. For the record I don't trust any media in Australia to be fair, objective or neutral. None.

JustinHeywood 23rd Jun 2020 04:20


Originally Posted by Crownstay01 (Post 10818152)
You seem to be having a fight with your own imagination, and losing. Nowhere did I claim to have a neutral source of media. For the record I don't trust any media in Australia to be fair, objective or neutral. None.

That’s a post from weeks ago. You seem to be trolling/looking for an argument.
Your life must be very dull, so whatever floats your boat mate, I don’t care.

Crownstay01 23rd Jun 2020 09:16


Originally Posted by JustinHeywood (Post 10818211)
That’s a post from weeks ago...

So? I've been away from home and the computer. Your life must be very dull if you expect an immediate reply to your comments.

Lookleft 25th Jun 2020 22:52

So the question is- Does Chairman Dan of the Victorian branch of the CCP look like he is starting to buckle under the pressure? Naming whole Shires as hotspots, requesting the army then denying them entry to the State, allowing the police to do the security at quarantine hotels because they don't want to lose their turf to the army, he is starting to look like someone losing control of the situation. His hubris about SA "who would want to go there" and NSW is coming to back to bight him.

Ascend Charlie 26th Jun 2020 01:57

In the eid-related cluster of houses, they interviewed a yoof (of not-very-reflective complexion, and a beard) about whether the distancing restrictions were relevant to him.

"Nah, Oi'll keep huggin and kissin people and stuff, it's just a virus."
Don't you worry that you will spread the virus?
"Nah"
What if you give it to your grandmother?
"She's gunna die of sumfink anyway..."

The yoof of today is doomed...

Torquetalk 26th Jun 2020 08:50


Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie (Post 10821266)
In the eid-related cluster of houses, they interviewed a yoof (of not-very-reflective complexion, and a beard) about whether the distancing restrictions were relevant to him.

"Nah, Oi'll keep huggin and kissin people and stuff, it's just a virus."
Don't you worry that you will spread the virus?
"Nah"
What if you give it to your grandmother?
"She's gunna die of sumfink anyway..."

The yoof of today is doomed...

Well his grandmother certainly is.

ORAC 27th Jun 2020 05:59

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a...g-mp-jfdvzhw7l

Australian police raid office of Beijing-supporting MP

Australia’s prime minister today warned foreign powers that Australia would repel any attempt to influence its political processes after police and intelligence agencies raided a state MP known for his strong support for Beijing.

Describing the matters under investigation by intelligence agencies as “serious” Scott Morrison said raids targeting Shaoquett Moselmane, a Labor MP in the New South Wales state parliament, were a reminder of the threat faced by Australia’s institutions.

“We won’t cop anyone coming and seeking to interfere in our political system, in our energy sector, in any area of perceived opportunity for an outside actor,’’ he said.

The prime minister said the investigation was led by a task force the national government established last December.

“The details of that, I’m not at liberty to go into but it’s been an investigation that has been going on for some time. It’s elevated to a new level today,’’ he said. “They’re extremely serious. The actions taken by ASIO (Australia’s domestic intelligence agency) and the Australian Federal Police demonstrate that seriousness.”.......

The Labor Party said Mr Moselmane’s party membership would be suspended. “It’s dreadfully concerning, it’s terrible,” Jodi McKay, the the party’s leader in News South Wales, said.

Today’s raids were the first connected with apparent Chinese influence peddling to be made public since Australia passed foreign interference laws two years ago. The measures were intended to counter covert attempts by Beijing to influence Australian politicians and political parties.......


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