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GLIDER 90 27th Aug 2019 14:11

Food Banks?
 
Afternoon All

It's a sad state of affairs watching families & their kids going to food banks on the tv news channel to support themselves. But unfortunately the media portray the wrong type of family with the mum being about 20 stone & their kids not far behind do these people really need to use the food banks?

wiggy 27th Aug 2019 15:51


Originally Posted by GLIDER 90 (Post 10555320)
Afternoon All

It's a sad state of affairs watching families & their kids going to food banks on the tv news channel to support themselves.

Agreed.

[QUOTE] . But unfortunately the media portray the wrong type of family with the mum being about 20 stone & their kids not far behind do these people really need to use the food banks?/QUOTE]

Leaving aside who would be the "Right" sort of Mum, is it possible it was just by chance that only 20 stone mothers were available whilst the cameras were there or did the News channel have an agenda? .

chevvron 27th Aug 2019 16:24

[QUOTE=wiggy;10555381]Agreed.


. But unfortunately the media portray the wrong type of family with the mum being about 20 stone & their kids not far behind do these people really need to use the food banks?/QUOTE]

Leaving aside who would be the "Right" sort of Mum, is it possible it was just by chance that only 20 stone mothers were available whilst the cameras were there or did the News channel have an agenda? .
Is it possible some of them spend all their benefits on satellite TV and computer video games and that's why they 'need' to use the food bank?

GLIDER 90 27th Aug 2019 16:43

Agreed & unfortunately it will never end!!

UpaCreak 27th Aug 2019 16:56

Maybe judgemental, but they invariably have tattoos also which are not cheap.

WestofEMA 27th Aug 2019 17:10

And nearly always smoke.

BehindBlueEyes 27th Aug 2019 17:11

I didn’t see the news item, but were these parents the ones that can’t afford to feed their children during school holidays as they normally get free school meals?

Tankertrashnav 27th Aug 2019 17:57

I have been involved in feeding the homeless in the past. I know that is not the same as food banks, but comparisons can be made. The trouble is, depending on your own point of view it is quite easy to pick out examples from the users of these services to support your own view. Thus in my case there were users who I knew damn well were in the situation they were in because of their own actions (or inactions), and who I could quite cheerfully have banned from using the service had I been in charge. One the other hand I got to know a number of people who had fallen through the cracks in the system because of sheer bad luck, in spite of their own best efforts to support themselves. With these people it was very much a case of "there but for the grace of God go I". Thus with these TV programmes there will always be the 20 stone mum with tattoos down her arms and a fag in her hand, but there will also be also be people who life has dealt a really rough hand to, and are in genuine need of our help.

wiggy 27th Aug 2019 18:07


Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav (Post 10555472)
IThus with these TV programmes there will always be the 20 stone mum with tattoos down her arms and a fag in her hand, but there will also be also be people who life has dealt a really rough hand to, and are in genuine need of our help.

Well said....

anxiao 27th Aug 2019 18:26

Near where I lived in Paris some years ago there was a frequent food kitchen that opened on the square. As I used to walk the dog down there I got into conversation with some of the recipients. I mused to myself that they all seemed to have the intellect, ambition and ability to be a commercial pilot as myself, (or similar better job) but a series of misfortunes had hit them in rapid sequence.

Depression was a common denominator, as causal or correlation to their predicament.

Paris treats its SDF with a degree of respect and I learned from that. My life could easily have taken a turn for the destitute, but I remained healthy and most importantly lucky.

GLIDER 90 27th Aug 2019 20:40

Society in my opinion has gone down hill for a long while now with moronic couples having kids when they can barley scrap two pennies together, and then come on the state for benefits & other hand outs. They don't have to have kids and this puts strain on the country for housing and other amenities.

The genuine couples I feel sorry for are the ones who have lost their jobs and rely on food banks to survive. While the lardies on the other hand can waddle away somewhere else!!

pr00ne 27th Aug 2019 20:44

GLIDER 90,


That was a nasty little rant.

You could always sterilise them, or maybe incarcerate them in camps?

"Society" is a damn sight more humane and supportive now than it has been for most of the human race's existence.

meadowrun 27th Aug 2019 21:18


"Society" is a damn sight more humane and supportive now than it has been for most of the human race's existence
Civilized Society that is. For the rest of many the road continues to be a long and winding one.

Meanwhile here, in this neck of a civilized society outpost, we have food banks.
We also pay, on our electricity bills, a tax/levy to support a fund to cover those who can't/don't pay their hydro bills.
Kind of like a tax every time you fill up the car to cover the petrol costs of others.

hiflymk3 27th Aug 2019 21:32


Originally Posted by pr00ne (Post 10555597)
GLIDER 90,


That was a nasty little rant.

You could always sterilise them, or maybe incarcerate them in camps?

"Society" is a damn sight more humane and supportive now than it has been for most of the human race's existence.

Well said. :D

flash8 27th Aug 2019 21:53

Ye gods, a lot of nasty comments here. FFS, many of those arriving at food banks go because they are in desperate need, they are not all Brexit voting, overweight, unemployed, tattooed, smoking, special brew drinking, dope addicted Sky TV viewers with the latest 60" wall to wall 4K Sony TV and a PlayStation or two, oh, and five kids.

Not that you'd know that from this thread though.

GLIDER 90 27th Aug 2019 22:29

PrOOne & hIflymk3

Truth hurts, I don't for one minute suggest what you are suggesting but this sadly is the case now in this country 19 year olds rushing to have kids & then splitting up leaving the kids in turmoil with no fathers or worse useless step fathers. Back to my original post about food banks there are people out there who generally need help & food banks to survive.

But when you see obese women on tv with their obese kids going to the food banks then you have to ask yourself should they be there, maybe if they did not spend money on other treats then they would not need the food bank in the first place!!

Gertrude the Wombat 27th Aug 2019 23:09


Originally Posted by flash8 (Post 10555643)
Ye gods, a lot of nasty comments here. FFS, many of those arriving at food banks go because they are in desperate need, they are not all Brexit voting, overweight, unemployed, tattooed, smoking, special brew drinking, dope addicted Sky TV viewers with the latest 60" wall to wall 4K Sony TV and a PlayStation or two, oh, and five kids.

I watched the arrivals at a food bank for one morning (the building next door was a polling station and I was sitting outside telling).

The customers mostly looked like normal people to me. I did wonder slightly at the couple who turned up in a open top sports car (most of the customers walked), but of course they might have been helping out a neighbour or relative.

Steepclimb 27th Aug 2019 23:10

Tankertrashnav, nails it again as he did ever since he came online. I've been around since the turn of the century and he always makes sense.

For the rest criticising people who use food banks says so much about them and in not a positive way.

In 2019 the simple fact that people still need to use food banks should warn you that the balance is wrong.
This is not 1919.

Blaming the poor for being poor is so nineteenth century.

Lucky are we who don't need food banks.

racedo 27th Aug 2019 23:36


Originally Posted by GLIDER 90 (Post 10555663)
PrOOne & hIflymk3

Truth hurts, I don't for one minute suggest what you are suggesting but this sadly is the case now in this country 19 year olds rushing to have kids & then splitting up leaving the kids in turmoil with no fathers or worse useless step fathers. Back to my original post about food banks there are people out there who generally need help & food banks to survive.

But when you see obese women on tv with their obese kids going to the food banks then you have to ask yourself should they be there, maybe if they did not spend money on other treats then they would not need the food bank in the first place!!

You are so full of bile it is a wonder you can eat. Did some single mum cross in front on you with a pram.As others have said there but for the grace of god go many of us. Less teenagers having kids now than ever, less right to a council house and benefits checked.

We have pensioners dying because someone decided they not entitled to a benefit, disabled people told you can go to work so we stopping the benefit when clearly it is not the case.

Knowing people across many areas of the food industry I have known ZERO who has turned down a request to meet with a food bank, hell they take the excess production that a supermarket didn't want vs shoving it into a compactor for destruction.

One company has a production manager who screwed up packaging one shift every year 5 weeks before Christmas, product would have to be broken up and repackaged at some cost as some incorrect labelling on cartons or clingfilm packaging etc or go to a food bank. After yr 3 they asked why, "a food bank kept his family going after his dad was killed in an accident" was his answer, he ensuring they have food to help people. HR put him on a disciplinary to dismiss, CEO removed him from it and decided one day a year they will produce for food banks.

Save me from the santimonious crap that someone using Food Banks is doing it for free food, for many it is a choice between kids eating and starving. Get off your judegemental soap box.

KelvinD 28th Aug 2019 00:14


the wrong type of family
Perhaps this is due to there being a shortage of "the right type of family"? I will have to look up the rules on what constitutes a right vs wrong type..

Maybe judgemental, but they invariably have tattoos also which are not cheap.
You mean in the manner of Mrs Cameron?

I didn’t see the news item, but were these parents the ones that can’t afford to feed their children during school holidays as they normally get free school meals?
Indeed they were. It was an item on the BBC news.
And another item on the BBC News tonight:
A man was a driver for DPD, on one of those much lauded zero hour contracts. He was suffering from Diabetes and had a kidney problem. One day, he had to miss work in order to attend hospital and the company fined him 170.00 for failing to turn up for work. He and his wife were living close to the poverty line, so this was a big blow financially. As a result, he missed his next 3 hospital appointments, terrified of losing that sort of money again.
Now his widow is facing eviction from their home. It looks as if she will be yet another looking for a food bank and a shelter very soon. She didn't appear to be anywhere near 20 stone, had no tattoos that I could see. Now, which sort of family will she fall under, right or wrong?
Glider 90: It was quite obvious where you were going with your opening post and I think it a shame the moderators didn't spot that and throw out your post and you along with it!


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