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Sallyann1234 20th Jun 2022 18:03


Originally Posted by B Fraser (Post 11249125)
Now click on the link and you will see the text "Keep your premises in top condition with affordable, regular sweeping with our powered sweepers and sweeping machines. If you have grounds, carparks, drives, footpaths, yards or any paving they will need to be kept free of leaves, weeds, moss and rubbish with regular sweeping to prevent deterioration* and the risk of accidents and injury."

You are of course free to contact the owner of the company and point out that you disagree with their claims.

How do they remove weeds from the paved areas at your local airfield ?

And you are equally free to ask how they work on urban pavements cluttered with lampposts, wheely bins, bicycle racks, pedestrians etc. And since the point I was asking was how technology replaces menial jobs, you can ask them how these devices work without an operator.

The paved areas on our local airfield are still kept weed free with glyphosate.

B Fraser 20th Jun 2022 18:47


Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 (Post 11249199)
And you are equally free to ask how they work on urban pavements cluttered with lampposts, wheely bins, bicycle racks, pedestrians etc. And since the point I was asking was how technology replaces menial jobs, you can ask them how these devices work without an operator.

The paved areas on our local airfield are still kept weed free with glyphosate.

And that's where Brighton have dropped a bollock. The green socialists banned that chemical in 2019 against all advice. The Brexit excuse is just the usual lazy cop-out so easily swallowed by the gullible. A quick peek at their staff news finds no mention.....but there is an article on paganism. I would have thought onanism would be more fitting .......as they seem to be a bunch of ..........

Staff news (brighton-hove.gov.uk)

Private jet 20th Jun 2022 19:01

What I have never understood is why so many of the people that voted for Brexit only want so called "quality immigration" of highly qualified professionals (you can put that phrase in inverted commas too) Who do they want to do the menial jobs? Surely not the white, working class, that voted for Brexit in their droves? With the result pushed over the line by the retired types, giving the finger in their selfish, pious, self righteous way? As the actor, who supported Scots nationalism but left the place as soon as he could, said in one of those silly spy films "Shum mishtake surely"??

Cornish Jack 20th Jun 2022 20:25

[QUOTE=B Fraser;11249207]And that's where Brighton have dropped a bollock. The green socialists banned that chemical in 2019 against all advice. The Brexit excuse is just the usual lazy cop-out so easily swallowed by the gullible. A quick peek at their staff news finds no mention.....but there is an article on paganism. I would have thought onanism would be more fitting .......as they seem to be a bunch of ..........

Aaah - the gullible ... amazing what 'the gullible can be persuaded to believe ! Billions more for the NHS; NO borders for N I; control of our borders; stop the flow of illegal immigrants; control of fishing rights; ...
how would the untrustworthy prosper were it not for the gullible - aka 'the greedy'.:ugh:

Right20deg 26th Jun 2022 07:47

From the bbc:

"Science in the European Union "will suffer" more than research in the UK, a minister has told the BBC amid a row over access to research programmes.

Science minister George Freeman said he would be rolling out £15bn of funding after it emerged British science might be excluded from EU schemes.

Cambridge University scientist Nicholas Walton said he was concerned about the current situation.

The EU said it believed in the "mutual benefit" of scientific co-operation.

In an interview with BBC Politics East, Mr Freeman, who is also MP for Mid Norfolk, said: "Unfortunately the EU have broken the agreement we have negotiated with them as part of the trade continuity agreement - the Brexit agreement - that we would be members of the Horizon, Copernicus and Euratom, the big three European science programmes... and unfortunately we have been blocked [from joining]."
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Isn't it preferable to do business with people that you like? Do we like this? We are clearly in the right here, yet the eu choose to play around just as they do with NI. Why? What gain for them? Ye gods...time again to stand clear and hold our nose. It stinks

B Fraser 26th Jun 2022 10:26

Interesting observation on the Glastonbury coverage, not a single pro-EU flag to be seen.

Cornish Jack 26th Jun 2022 10:38


Originally Posted by B Fraser (Post 11251874)
Interesting observation on the Glastonbury coverage, not a single pro-EU flag to be seen.

Pray tell ... what is a pro-EU flag ? and why would an overly large congregation of head-bangers engage in meaningful political action ? :confused:

Sallyann1234 26th Jun 2022 11:05


Originally Posted by Right20deg (Post 11251808)
From the bbc:

"Science in the European Union "will suffer" more than research in the UK, a minister has told the BBC amid a row over access to research programmes.

Science minister George Freeman said he would be rolling out £15bn of funding after it emerged British science might be excluded from EU schemes.

Cambridge University scientist Nicholas Walton said he was concerned about the current situation.

The EU said it believed in the "mutual benefit" of scientific co-operation.

In an interview with BBC Politics East, Mr Freeman, who is also MP for Mid Norfolk, said: "Unfortunately the EU have broken the agreement we have negotiated with them as part of the trade continuity agreement - the Brexit agreement - that we would be members of the Horizon, Copernicus and Euratom, the big three European science programmes... and unfortunately we have been blocked [from joining]."
____________________________
Isn't it preferable to do business with people that you like? Do we like this? We are clearly in the right here, yet the eu choose to play around just as they do with NI. Why? What gain for them? Ye gods...time again to stand clear and hold our nose. It stinks

Clearly in the right? Because a Brexit MP says so?
It's an interesting time to be accusing the EU of breaking agreements!

Krystal n chips 26th Jun 2022 11:51


Originally Posted by Right20deg (Post 11251808)
From the bbc:

"Science in the European Union "will suffer" more than research in the UK, a minister has told the BBC amid a row over access to research programmes.

Science minister George Freeman said he would be rolling out £15bn of funding after it emerged British science might be excluded from EU schemes.

Cambridge University scientist Nicholas Walton said he was concerned about the current situation.

The EU said it believed in the "mutual benefit" of scientific co-operation.

In an interview with BBC Politics East, Mr Freeman, who is also MP for Mid Norfolk, said: "Unfortunately the EU have broken the agreement we have negotiated with them as part of the trade continuity agreement - the Brexit agreement - that we would be members of the Horizon, Copernicus and Euratom, the big three European science programmes... and unfortunately we have been blocked [from joining]."
____________________________
Isn't it preferable to do business with people that you like? Do we like this? We are clearly in the right here, yet the eu choose to play around just as they do with NI. Why? What gain for them? Ye gods...time again to stand clear and hold our nose. It stinks

It would indeed be lovely to do business with people whom we like, such as EU nations for example....clearly this doesn't apply to yourself of course....but, since you mention business, this is a long and complex link hence it may take you some considerable time to read, but shows that when it comes to business, the UK is heading downwards, not quite at VNe, but getting close..which seems to differ somewhat from the "promises " made as to why leaving would be the UK's salvation...

Also, the one and only, thankfully, JR-M is reported elsewhere as saying he wasn't too concerned about the financial aspects....no surprise really when his own financial affairs are safe and unlikely to be remotely affected by the cost of living crisis and the contribution to this made by Brexit...c/o "Got Brexit done !" Boris :yuk: :ok:

After two years, what impact has Brexit had on the UK? Investment Monitor

Right20deg 26th Jun 2022 12:02


Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 (Post 11251899)
Clearly in the right? Because a Brexit MP says so?
It's an interesting time to be accusing the EU of breaking agreements!

SA : Not at all. They are breaking an agreement made with us as part of Brexit. Punishment ...yes it is. Legalised blood sports are permitted. (Bercow)
It cuts both ways.

Mr. Jack: you know exactly what was meant by pro EU flag. As for head bangers, look at Glastonbury tonight, if you would Sir.
A remarkable collection of British middle class parents and their good looking offspring having a fabulous time at the biggest music and performing arts festival ....in the world. Look at their faces would you ?

Most musicians are from the UK USA and Africa. Trying to find some from the EU for you.... but alas, they just don't come out to play. Put simply.. "nobody does it better"..... as any Frankfurt cabbie will confirm to you.
Then, looking forward to the Edinburgh Festival in August another world beater. Maybe some Wagner.
It is going to be a bonza summer in "our universe".

B Fraser 26th Jun 2022 12:50


Originally Posted by Cornish Jack (Post 11251883)
Pray tell ... what is a pro-EU flag ? and why would an overly large congregation of head-bangers engage in meaningful political action ? :confused:

Father Jack,

Allow me to explain if your propensity to post your favourite emoji has resulted in mild concussion. I wish you a speedy recovery. Let's see, an EU flag waved by anyone who supports the concept. Do you think it could be that ? There appears to be a shortage of those and no doubt someone will be along shortly, blaming Brexit.

Mr Right20,

To be fair, I am a bit partial to Kraftwerk who put on a belter of a show some years ago. I reckon Father Jack is more into Rammstein ..........with the volume at 11.

[email protected] 26th Jun 2022 13:02

So no EU flags at Glasto is a sign that Brexit has been a success?????

Brexit has been a disaster by any metric you choose, it was built on lies and Boris and his team keep on banging on about getting Brexit done being the reason to keep supporting the clown BoJo and believe in his promises for a better future.

The EU won't complete the science funding agreement BECAUSE we have threatened to rip up the NI protocol - we started it and they have responded in kind so who are the bad guys here?

Cornish Jack 26th Jun 2022 13:13

Look at their faces would you ?
In all honesty, I'd rather not ! However, if forced to do so, my immediate interest would be in the degree of dilation of their pupils ... not as a check on mydriasis, but to confirm the more likely source of their undiluted joy. ! Headbangers' snow or middle class social indulgence ? :ugh:

Torquetalk 26th Jun 2022 13:14


Originally Posted by B Fraser (Post 11251874)
Interesting observation on the Glastonbury coverage, not a single pro-EU flag to be seen.

Why would pro EU flags be expected at Glastonbury? It‘s a music festival.

But if you or the author of that observation thinks that means that a majority of the G audience don‘t care about Brexit, then you really haven‘t got the foggiest about the audience profile, even if it has become a bit gentrified in recent years.

Those 200k people or so are not, overwhelmingly, your natural political allies. P-leeaze

Right20deg 26th Jun 2022 13:45


Originally Posted by Torquetalk (Post 11251958)
Why would pro EU flags be expected at Glastonbury? It‘s a music festival.

But if you or the author of that observation thinks that means that a majority of the G audience don‘t care about Brexit, then you really haven‘t got the foggiest about the audience profile, even if it has become a bit gentrified in recent years.

Those 200k people or so are not, overwhelmingly, your natural political allies. P-leeaze

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OK, with you on some of this, but have a look at Last Night of the Proms in the R.A.H. Loads of eu flags in a show of force by.... Londoners ? and the city visitors. Quite ridiculous without wind to fly them in the hall . Glasto has wind, a perfect place to display your loyalty to the cause. Or not?

Lenny Henry said that the G festival lacked black and asians in the audience. Then a journalist reminded us that just....13% of the UK is ethnic and 87% white and what you actually see starts to make sense. I guess life really is not like the contrived tv advert, (nearly every advert)
showing an incredibly smiley interracial family snuggling down to a meat free evening on the sofa.

B Fraser : I do remember Kraftwerk back in the day. Techno and synth to a high standard. Great musicians.

alfaman 26th Jun 2022 14:23


Originally Posted by Torquetalk (Post 11251958)
Why would pro EU flags be expected at Glastonbury? It‘s a music festival.

But if you or the author of that observation thinks that means that a majority of the G audience don‘t care about Brexit, then you really haven‘t got the foggiest about the audience profile, even if it has become a bit gentrified in recent years.

Those 200k people or so are not, overwhelmingly, your natural political allies. P-leeaze

Indeed - perhaps an indication of how desperate some are to garner any jingoistic support for leaving the EU where ever they can. I've been to plenty of festivals over the years, not come across anyone who would want to wave a "pro EU flag" whatever that is, not because they're in favour of leaving, but because that's not why they're there. On the other hand, plenty of Ukrainian flags at Glasto this year - perhaps we should extrapolate that as supporting their application to join the EU, & so as support of the EU in general...?

wiggy 26th Jun 2022 14:53


So no EU flags at Glasto is a sign that Brexit has been a success?????
Certainly given there was hardly an invasion of French or German pop into the UK during our time in the EU it's darned strange to be using a lack of EU performers and flags at this year's Glasto as a metric for the success of Brexit.

European popular music :cool: rarely if ever gets much airplay or traction Uk/Stateside. I'm old enough to have gone to festivals in the UK in 70's and they definitely catered for the Anglophones way back then, so Glasto 22 is not an example of the foreigners suddenly being kicked out, it's just a continuation of the Status Quo, :}...., or perhaps an example of plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose, as perhaps Johnny Hallyday would have been tempted to sing if he hadn't fallen off his perch a few years back.

As for European Pop, I would accept there's only so much accordion music a person can stand, but after a couple of aperos there's nothing like a good blast of Plastic Bertrand to get people up and dancing...



Oh, there wasn't much by the way of a UK presence at the Cannes film festival this year either ..... should we be tempted to draw any Brexity conclusions from that?

Torquetalk 26th Jun 2022 15:30


Originally Posted by Right20deg (Post 11251964)
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OK, with you on some of this, but have a look at Last Night of the Proms in the R.A.H. Loads of eu flags in a show of force by.... Londoners ? and the city visitors. Quite ridiculous without wind to fly them in the hall . Glasto has wind, a perfect place to display your loyalty to the cause. Or not?

Lenny Henry said that the G festival lacked black and asians in the audience. Then a journalist reminded us that just....13% of the UK is ethnic and 87% white and what you actually see starts to make sense. I guess life really is not like the contrived tv advert, (nearly every advert)
showing an incredibly smiley interracial family snuggling down to a meat free evening on the sofa.

B Fraser : I do remember Kraftwerk back in the day. Techno and synth to a high standard. Great musicians.

Stormzy rocked G not all that long ago, and that‘s about as Britain now as it gets. Otherwise LH has a point; the festival is in danger of wandering up its butt in a Cross between tongue-in-cheek pop and nostalgia revelry: Dolly Parton and Diana Ross headlining and fantastic new music struggling for a slot on the third stage. Yawn.
That said Eillish is rightly headlining and…this one you would like…McCartney will do his tour de force of Beatles/Wings/self complete with video montage to remind the audience about just who it is that is standing there. Expect to see lots of British flags 👍🏼

Krystal n chips 28th Jun 2022 07:28

Nothing comes in more useful for desperate and failed politicians than...a war.

Not, thankfully, in this case, the carnage version, just an everyday trade war with the EU.... along with allegedly breaking international law....no concerns for Boris or this Gov't given this is an established SOP anyway. And besides, surely when cooking, people read the small print when it involves "oven ready deals " .

And who better than the vacuous Ms Truss to explain matters...

Laughter and forgetting with Liz as she prepares to break Brexit deal | John Crace | The Guardian

Fascinating to learn of a hitherto unknown great domestic trade route..Great Yarmouth to Carlisle..but no surprise as to the source...

Northern Ireland protocol bill passes Commons vote | Northern Ireland | The Guardian

B Fraser 28th Jun 2022 07:37


Originally Posted by Krystal n chips (Post 11252729)
Nothing comes in more useful for desperate and failed politicians than...a war.

And the last UK political party to initiate a war was........ ????

Answer please on the back of a dodgy dossier.


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