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Krystal n chips 18th Jan 2020 12:30

It's just a thought, but, will this clock also be showing the date ?....lots of choice here, 16 /17 / 18 or even something almost contemporary ...1920.....perhaps such is the euphoria of many it seems to regress the UK.

Krystal n chips 18th Jan 2020 15:16

It's those casual throw away lines than can be so revealing " admittedly, they did not know the exact terms " ( which always helps if you do ) ..... but hey, what are a few inconsequential T's and C's when we are leaving the EU and prosperity beckons .....unless you are in a sector that's going to be affected of course......and then there's the bit about rising food prices ....again, no problem for the few who will benefit from our exit.

As for the millions who won't, tough !..just show some good old British stiff upper lip, grin and bear it and trust us, the Tory party, Boris and not forgetting our glorious, if not impeached and in Sing Sing that is, de facto president with his great trade "deals " to keep you all healthy and fed.....mustn't forget "D.C " either...how can we .

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51161808

With a bit of luck however, as the above gathers momentum, Boris's lies should start to unravel sooner rather than later....

Mr Mac 18th Jan 2020 16:17


Originally Posted by Krystal n chips (Post 10666160)
It's those casual throw away lines than can be so revealing " admittedly, they did not know the exact terms " ( which always helps if you do ) ..... but hey, what are a few inconsequential T's and C's when we are leaving the EU and prosperity beckons .....unless you are in a sector that's going to be affected of course......and then there's the bit about rising food prices ....again, no problem for the few who will benefit from our exit.

As for the millions who won't, tough !..just show some good old British stiff upper lip, grin and bear it and trust us, the Tory party, Boris and not forgetting our glorious, if not impeached and in Sing Sing that is, de facto president with his great trade "deals " to keep you all healthy and fed.....mustn't forget "D.C " either...how can we .

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51161808

With a bit of luck however, as the above gathers momentum, Boris's lies should start to unravel sooner rather than later....

KnC
That just makes my day. I am so personally pleased that we moved our business to Europe after the initial vote, even though it personally has had the effect of me having to leave home for longer periods. How ever Mrs Mac has supported this absence, as it has just added Munich to options of to do things for the weekend. We have a friend who is doing the same with Dublin. What is telling is that both our companies have grown substantially, and to be honest I now wished we had moved 15 years ago when I first got a controlling interest. Our companies are not huge, having around the 100-120 range of employees though in my case average salaries are around the £70k mark, so a little loss to Mr Javid.

PS
Are you on this web site permanently as despite much travelling and time zone changes on my behalf, you seem to e-mail at some odd times, I presume it is the dog calling !

Kind regards
Mr Mac

Sallyann1234 18th Jan 2020 16:47

In the news just today...
We have the farming industry telling us why we can't change food standards.
We have manufacturers telling us why we can't change product standards.
We have the US telling us which telecoms equipment they will allow us to buy.
This Taking Back Control is going to be such a benefit. I can hardly wait to see it in action. :ok:

Krystal n chips 18th Jan 2020 16:52


Originally Posted by Mr Mac (Post 10666190)
KnC
That just makes my day. I am so personally pleased that we moved our business to Europe after the initial vote, even though it personally has had the effect of me having to leave home for longer periods. How ever Mrs Mac has supported this absence, as it has just added Munich to options of to do things for the weekend. We have a friend who is doing the same with Dublin. What is telling is that both our companies have grown substantially, and to be honest I now wished we had moved 15 years ago when I first got a controlling interest. Our companies are not huge, having around the 100-120 range of employees though in my case average salaries are around the £70k mark, so a little loss to Mr Javid.

PS
Are you on this web site permanently as despite much travelling and time zone changes on my behalf, you seem to e-mail at some odd times, I presume it is the dog calling !

Kind regards
Mr Mac

I suspect you are far from alone in viewing the comments from Javid with some alarm, albeit you have already taken steps to negate the impact it seems. Wise move and no doubt there will be a few flurries of activity from others in this respect.

It's actually very disturbing to learn that the information has been withheld because so much emphasis has been placed on leaving that you might think it would make sense to ensure all sectors are fully aware. The bit about them being aware since 2016 is risible given the years if vacillation that ensued . It's even more worrying to think about what else has been quietly hidden from the public only to emerge later when it's too late.

The lighter side. You once kindly gave us a rough idea as to your UK location, nice area, one I've passed through more than a few times.....all I can say, is, in lieu of the bells, gaze heavenwards...damned cunning these aliens and you are not far from a UFO hotspot.....;)

And yes, madam does have an input as to my erratic times on here....never, ever, try to reason with, or ignore, 9kgs of stroppy cockapoo at 00 silly hrs, trust me, you will lose !

KelvinD 18th Jan 2020 17:37

Listening to the news today, I am totally baffled by pronouncements from various parties in the Brexit saga. On the one hand we have Javid saying British business will no longer be following/complying with EU rules on standards etc. On the other hand, we have representatives of various UK manufacturing/retailing associations saying this will be a massive blow to their industries. Has nobody thought this through? Regardless of what Javid says, manufacturers, exporters and importers will all understand that if they hope to sell any of their products or services to members of the EU, their products or services will have to conform to EU standards. So, those led by directors with an IQ greater than 2 will be able to figure out that, regardless of what pap is emanating from Downing St., they will continue to conform to EU standards and sod what the political idiots say.

Effluent Man 18th Jan 2020 21:23

Well you know Boris' view of business...F*** means F***

PDR1 18th Jan 2020 22:13


Originally Posted by KelvinD (Post 10666252)
So, those led by directors with an IQ greater than 2 will be able to figure out that, regardless of what pap is emanating from Downing St., they will continue to conform to EU standards and sod what the political idiots say.

You've put your finger on the nub of the problem. Those with an IQ greater than 2 voted remain.

PDR

Steepclimb 18th Jan 2020 22:35

The Zed team now running the UK, until it collapses is already exposing themselves. Is it me or does Javid look like an alien?
Anyway in the real world despite the alien's view of things
If you don't follow EU rules you won't sell to the EU. His asinine comment that the Japanese are not European ignores the reality that Japan has plants in the EU.

There's a man promoted beyond his ability.



SWBKCB 19th Jan 2020 06:38


Originally Posted by KelvinD (Post 10666252)
Listening to the news today, I am totally baffled by pronouncements from various parties in the Brexit saga. On the one hand we have Javid saying British business will no longer be following/complying with EU rules on standards etc. On the other hand, we have representatives of various UK manufacturing/retailing associations saying this will be a massive blow to their industries. Has nobody thought this through? Regardless of what Javid says, manufacturers, exporters and importers will all understand that if they hope to sell any of their products or services to members of the EU, their products or services will have to conform to EU standards. So, those led by directors with an IQ greater than 2 will be able to figure out that, regardless of what pap is emanating from Downing St., they will continue to conform to EU standards and sod what the political idiots say.

Yes - you need to comply with the legal requirements of which ever market you want to sell into, irrespective of what your home market requires. The issue is, the more those requirements diverge, the greater the cost for industry. For example, you want to sell chicken into the EU, the requirements are minimal because the regulatory requirements are the same - if the UK was to lower our legal requirements, you would now have to provide proof you meet the EU's requirements.

Effluent Man 19th Jan 2020 07:36


Originally Posted by Steepclimb (Post 10666452)
The Zed team now running the UK, until it collapses is already exposing themselves. Is it me or does Javid look like an alien?
Anyway in the real world despite the alien's view of things
If you don't follow EU rules you won't sell to the EU. His asinine comment that the Japanese are not European ignores the reality that Japan has plants in the EU.

There's a man promoted beyond his ability.

I had a chuckle at that. In our house his name is "Brown Spock". Looking at his career at Deutsche Bank my guess is that he had more to do with the 2008 crash than Gordon Brown did. I ran my own car dealership for 35 years and I reckon that took more financial nous than running a bank.

Sallyann1234 19th Jan 2020 21:07


Originally Posted by Effluent Man (Post 10666585)
I had a chuckle at that. In our house his name is "Brown Spock". Looking at his career at Deutsche Bank my guess is that he had more to do with the 2008 crash than Gordon Brown did. I ran my own car dealership for 35 years and I reckon that took more financial nous than running a bank.

Indeed. You are always more careful managing your own money than other people's.

Slaine 20th Jan 2020 10:44

As the UK 's Euro MP Gravy train hopper-on-ers near the end of the line, a quick tally :

All of Wales = 4 MEPs
All of Scotland = 6 MEPs
London and the south East REGION of ENGLAND = 18 MEPs

And still there are those in power that play little more than lip service to the disparities and disconnection between Westminster and the majority of the country that played such a large part in the 2016 result.
Combine this with the moans of the self appointed keepers of the truth and the whimpers of the failed Brexit wreckers who prefer to see it as being the result of millions of Thickos having the right to vote and its evident we will have decades of blaming Brexit for anything and everything.
I suspect when the EU does fall apart their narrative will blame Brexit

May I suggest they STFU and get on with it?


Null Orifice 20th Jan 2020 11:07

Meanwhile: The South West is a combined constituency region of the European Parliament, comprising the South West of England and Gibraltar. Six Members of the European Parliament using closed party-list proportional representation allocated using the D'Hondt method of distribution are elected.

Avionker 20th Jan 2020 11:26


Originally Posted by Slaine (Post 10667287)
As the UK 's Euro MP Gravy train hopper-on-ers near the end of the line, a quick tally :

All of Wales = 4 MEPs
All of Scotland = 6 MEPs
London and the south East REGION of ENGLAND = 18 MEPs

And still there are those in power that play little more than lip service to the disparities and disconnection between Westminster and the majority of the country that played such a large part in the 2016 result.
Combine this with the moans of the self appointed keepers of the truth and the whimpers of the failed Brexit wreckers who prefer to see it as being the result of millions of Thickos having the right to vote and its evident we will have decades of blaming Brexit for anything and everything.
I suspect when the EU does fall apart their narrative will blame Brexit

May I suggest they STFU and get on with it?

Population of London and SE England:- 18,000,000 = 16 MEPís

Population of Scotland:- 5,400,000 = 6 MEPís

Population of Wales:- 3,100,000 = 4 MEPís

Care to explain why that seems unreasonable?

Using your example it could be argued that London and the SE are actually under represented and Wales over represented.

Sallyann1234 20th Jan 2020 11:41


Originally Posted by Avionker (Post 10667308)
Population of London and SE England:- 18,000,000 = 16 MEPís

Population of Scotland:- 5,400,000 = 6 MEPís

Population of Wales:- 3,100,000 = 4 MEPís

Care to explain why that seems unreasonable?

Using your example it could be argued that London and the SE are actually under represented and Wales over represented.

Logic doesn't work too well for those of a Brexit persuation.

sidevalve 21st Jan 2020 08:31

I think this might be a first for me but there's a positive story in a broadsheet (beloved of some) this morning that somehow slipped past the Mess ante room (approved media) sub committee that might interest a few here!
UK shrugs off Brexit uncertainty with backing of global CEOs

Krystal n chips 21st Jan 2020 08:47


Originally Posted by sidevalve (Post 10667832)
I think this might be a first for me but there's a positive story in a broadsheet (beloved of some) this morning that somehow slipped past the Mess ante room (approved media) sub committee that might interest a few here!
UK shrugs off Brexit uncertainty with backing of global CEOs

Thanks for the link albeit you are probably on the list of ante-room approved senders, whereas it would be fair to say I am not due to the criteria kindly provided on another thread.....anyway, just one small potential problem with this glowing piece if you don't mind me mentioning it before many on here erupt in raptures of delight.......PwC to be precise.

Another little organisation which features prominently in "Private Eye".............. for all the wrong reasons.

Sallyann1234 21st Jan 2020 08:58

PwC touting for lucrative business.
"Come and buy up a British firm or two. There are just a few left in UK ownership so get in quick. We'll do your DD for you and handle all the negotiations at our usual rates."

Exrigger 21st Jan 2020 10:47

Most of the firms were sold off long before the referendum and those since the referendum would have been sold even if the result had been to remain, why people keep harping on about something that has been going for many years while a member of the EU and were quite happy with it, but now it is bad all of a sudden because of Brexit.


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