![]() |
Originally Posted by alicopter
(Post 10600539)
The vast majority of British people really do not want to leave the EU!!! .
The only figure that has been verified and agreed was in Jun 2016. That one day. At any other time some people take note of opinion polls, others dismiss them. Generally, if they back up your own personal opinion, you will think they are accurate. That is what this has been all about. I am sure that if your statement is true, the opposition would be desparate for a GE. The Tories would be gone, and the Lib Dems will be elected. |
Originally Posted by Exrigger
(Post 10600571)
How have they had so much difficulties getting rid of the UK, they only had to turn down one of the last extension requests knowing that Westminster would continue to do exactly what they are doing now, and will continue to do, if they do want to get rid of us that much then do not accept the latest extension request, like some of the participants claimed they were going to do and have now changed their minds,
|
Originally Posted by ATNotts
(Post 10600576)
And he took out the useful bits, referring to closest possible regulatory alignment, leaving the UK free to revert to needlessly powerful, energy guzzling vacuum cleaners, hair dryers, kettles and the like; basically loosening future ties with the EU to satisfy the maniacs in the ERG.
|
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 10600589)
If that means the washing machine in future will actually wash my work clothes, I am all for it.
|
Originally Posted by Sallyann1234
(Post 10600570)
"ramming the Benn act through"? Are you having a laugh?
It was voted through by a majority of MPs in Parliament. If it was ever possible to ram something through, Boris would have got all of his bills through instead of losing every time.. As for the new Brexit deal, yes it's the same old deal that May agreed but Boris hated. Now Boris waits to claim it as his own, after he inserted the Irish Sea customs border that he swore he would never accept. It seems that fast tracking bills is OK depending on your point of view. |
Of course Boris is not patiently mad but he is totally dishonest
BJ as MP at “under no circumstances, whatever happens, will I allow the EU or anyone else to create any kind of division down the Irish Sea” BJ as PM lets have a border down the middle of the Irish sea that leaves NI in the EU As his 'friend' and former editor ,when he was a journo on the Borisgraph, Max Hastings said , Boris never says anything that he doesnt feel he can change withdraw or change in the future. Among the few changes to Theresa's deal -all for the worse of course are references to Eu employment law, environmental and customer protections -shows the Tory party havent come far from the days of child labour ,shooting or cavalry charging strikers no NHS, the poor laws, enclosures etc etc , for the few not the many |
Originally Posted by Exrigger
(Post 10600571)
How have they had so much difficulties getting rid of the UK, they only had to turn down one of the last extension requests knowing that Westminster would continue to do exactly what they are doing now, and will continue to do, if they do want to get rid of us that much then do not accept the latest extension request, like some of the participants claimed they were going to do and have now changed their minds,
The Brits said they wanted out and asked for some time to get prepared, why would one of the 27 say no ? Now if you believe you can reapply later, let's hope this time it will be Euro, Schengen and no rebates. And really democratic voting system... |
Originally Posted by The Nip
(Post 10600580)
Can you prove with any verifiable stats that this is true? No one actually knows what the current % would be.
The only figure that has been verified and agreed was in Jun 2016. That one day. At any other time some people take note of opinion polls, others dismiss them. Generally, if they back up your own personal opinion, you will think they are accurate. That is what this has been all about. I am sure that if your statement is true, the opposition would be desparate for a GE. The Tories would be gone, and the Lib Dems will be elected. |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 10600589)
If that means the washing machine in future will actually wash my work clothes, I am all for it.
|
Does anyone really think that manufacturers are going to produce specially energy-wasteful domestic appliances to sell to the limited British market?
:confused: |
BBC News latest. PM to pull Brexit Bill if timetable not voted through.
|
Originally Posted by pax britanica
(Post 10600596)
Of course Boris is not patiently mad but he is totally dishonest
BJ as MP at “under no circumstances, whatever happens, will I allow the EU or anyone else to create any kind of division down the Irish Sea” BJ as PM lets have a border down the middle of the Irish sea that leaves NI in the EU As his 'friend' and former editor ,when he was a journo on the Borisgraph, Max Hastings said , Boris never says anything that he doesnt feel he can change withdraw or change in the future. Among the few changes to Theresa's deal -all for the worse of course are references to Eu employment law, environmental and customer protections -shows the Tory party havent come far from the days of child labour ,shooting or cavalry charging strikers no NHS, the poor laws, enclosures etc etc , for the few not the many On the employment protections I don't really get this. My understanding is that all the existing protections will still be applicable in the UK post Brexit either through the transition period or as specifically dealt with by Parliament afterwards. Therefore to actually "trash" these he would have to have a majority in Parliament prepared to vote for doing so, which he doesn't currently have. To get one he would have to win a majority in a GE on a manifesto which gave this as a commitment. And if the voters didn't like that they wouldn't vote for it. Obviously any future Government with a majority would be free to bring them back again. That's how it works. |
Originally Posted by yellowtriumph
(Post 10600652)
BBC News latest. PM to pull Brexit Bill if timetable not voted through.
|
Originally Posted by ATNotts
(Post 10600637)
Come on; washing machines wash most regular grime out of clothes at 40 degrees these days, provided washing power is used - you do use washing powder don't you?:= Any stains (?) that can't be removed are easily dealt with by one or other of the various additives (Vanish is one) that are readily available in supermarkets. Actually, of course it isn't the washing machine it's the wife or Filipino maid that washes the clothes. A bad workman (or woman) blames his tools.
|
So the most complex issue in modern times and the PM wants parliament to wave it through with a few days debate-says volumes about the man -I don't care about anyone else I just want things my way and all these rules and law thingies they dont apply to me-I am PM and I went to Eton Shame shame shame
|
Am I the only one getting thoroughly sick and tired of hearing MPs proclaiming that the British public voted to leave the EU so we must just vote for the current proposed "deal". In other words, "regardless of how poor the current Bill may be, just vote for it. If it all goes wrong, the public are to blame".
|
Originally Posted by KelvinD
(Post 10600702)
Am I the only one getting thoroughly sick and tired of hearing MPs proclaiming that the British public voted to leave the EU so we must just vote for the current proposed "deal". In other words, "regardless of how poor the current Bill may be, just vote for it. If it all goes wrong, the public are to blame".
|
Originally Posted by KelvinD
(Post 10600702)
Am I the only one getting thoroughly sick and tired of hearing MPs proclaiming that the British public voted to leave the EU so we must just vote for the current proposed "deal". In other words, "regardless of how poor the current Bill may be, just vote for it. If it all goes wrong, the public are to blame".
|
Why would MPs not vote for it- especially theregain control nonsense ? probably because most of them know is a pack of lies and bad for the country
Today- Boris speak-passing the bill will unleash a tide of investment Reality a horde of American carpet baggers buying up whats left of Britains infrastructure and services at rock bottom prices because the dollar is so strong against the pound |
Originally Posted by Groundbased
(Post 10600707)
If it is worse than Theresa May's deal then why did they not vote for that one?
...and wish to get to a second referendum which they hope will overturn the result of the first. It would at least give a clearer answer than a GE. |
All times are GMT. The time now is 21:24. |
Copyright © 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.