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obgraham 12th Oct 2017 18:21

Same old media story: "Trump quits UNESCO"!

Excuse me? We stopped paying in in 2011. The president then was?.....Anyone?......Bueller?

KelvinD 12th Oct 2017 18:57

Ronald Reagan! Do I win a prize? Oh! Hang on that was the first time around in 1984. It seems to me that whenever the UN has a policy that the US doesn't like, they take their toys home. Let's hope the US will at least have the decency to settle the bill on the way out. Apparently, the US owes $550Million in arrears.

obgraham 12th Oct 2017 20:56


Let's hope the US will at least have the decency to settle the bill on the way out.
Can you also agree that the UN should settle its overdue parking tab in NYC? Likely about the same cash value.

KelvinD 12th Oct 2017 22:52


Can you also agree that the UN should settle its overdue parking tab in NYC? Likely about the same cash value.
As is the US Embassy's tab for London. They claim, laughingly, it is a "tax".

ORAC 13th Oct 2017 06:00

First the left shoe, then the right.....

Trump moves to end Obamacare

Washington President Trump has taken his most significant step towards ending Obamacare by signing an executive order to make it easier to buy ďbare-bonesĒ insurance that does not cover needs such as maternity care, prescriptions or mental health care. The order also seeks to extend the time limit on short-term insurance that covers fewer needs. Legal experts questioned the presidentís authority to expand such insurance. (Reuters)

Trump scraps Obamacare subsidies in surprise late-night announcement

Donald Trump has planted a timebomb under Obamacare, issuing a notice late on Thursday night that scraps vital federal subsidies underpinning the current healthcare system. Donald Trump has planted a timebomb under Obamacare, issuing a notice late on Thursday night that scraps vital federal subsidies underpinning the current healthcare system. The late-night move caught critics off guard and brought immediate accusations that Trump was unilaterally destroying his predecessorís signature legislation, the Affordable Care Act, after the Republican-controlled Congress failed to secure changes. The announcement stops federal support of up to $7bn (£5.27bn) to insurance companies to help them cover the medical needs of low-income Americans........

The attack on the federal subsidies came as a double blow to Obamacare, just hours after Trump had already lashed out at his predecessorís healthcare reforms by issuing an executive order unilaterally weakening the system. In that order, the president opened the door to cheaper and less comprehensive insurance, which experts predict will result in health plans for the sick becoming more expensive.

Thursday nightís second blow could prove the more deadly of the two as it is targeted at the very foundations of the insurance structures created under Obamacare. A study by the Congressional Budget Office two months ago suggested that terminating the cost-sharing subsidies would lead to a dramatic 20% rise in the average cost of the most popular plans offered by the Affordable Care Act.......

chuks 13th Oct 2017 07:36

It seems obvious that Trump has blind hatred for everything not accomplished by Trump, so that he wants to level our political landscape to build anew ... except that he's not really a builder at all. Here he's destroying a functional but defective system of delivering health care when there's no real, constructive alternative on offer.

I think about the only hope, for now, is the legislature understanding that it's going to be up to them to work together, Republicans and Democrats, to find a way to ensure continuing health care for disadvantaged Americans. The first step is for Republicans to understand that continuing to support Trump is more damaging than turning against him, as just a few Senate dissidents have done so far.

If we see Tillerson and Kelly leaving Trump's Cabinet that might provoke a bit more insight on the part of Republican legislators.

The various investigations into Trump and the Russians seem to be moving much too slowly compared to the accelerating pace of Trump's actions, so that it's those actions that seem oddly hopeful of bringing necessary reaction, Trump being literally his own worst enemy.

galaxy flyer 13th Oct 2017 15:48

The Obamacare subsidies are illegal, they are not in the law, not appropriated funds and found illegal by a Federal court.

GF

obgraham 13th Oct 2017 15:55

Amazing to see the Left suddenly such great fans of the insurance companies, whose profits and executive salaries continue to soar.

RatherBeFlying 13th Oct 2017 15:58

Puerto Rico Refugees Might Paint Florida Blue
 
PR looks unliveable for quite some time to come. There's nothing but the price of a plane or boat ticket between hundreds of thousands of PR folks decamping to Florida and registering to vote.

They won't be voting for Trump:E

oicur12.again 13th Oct 2017 16:19

“In other words, who and what catches the President's ear?”

The American Enterprise Institute is rather influential in shaping US foreign policy. And guess who is a senior fellow of the AEI? The lion’s share of foreign policy is crafted in think tanks staffed by people you may never have heard of.

Take a quick look at how the US ended up in Iraq chasing fake WMD.

The news concerning Iran has little to do with fears of nuclear capability and everything to do with South Pars/North Dome.

Dollar hegemony, fractional reserve banking, fiat currency, petrodollar, global banking, triffin dilemma, Bank of International Settlements, SWIFT.

Join the dots between these issues and the saber rattling and shadow play from Iran to Syria to Russia to China to North Korea to Ukraine to Qatar to Saudi Arabia to Venezuela to every corner of the globe where western forces are spreading democracy or containing rogue nations or preventing human rights abuses or whatever the catchphrase of the day may be and things make much more sense.

lomapaseo 13th Oct 2017 16:26


PR looks unliveable for quite some time to come. There's nothing but the price of a plane or boat ticket between hundreds of thousands of PR folks decamping to Florida and registering to vote.
What will they show as ID to register ?

If it's that easy more of us would register in multiple states.

galaxy flyer 13th Oct 2017 20:49

PR will be unlivable but Trump is about reason 10 or so.

SASless 14th Oct 2017 00:18

Why not do two minutes of research and look up the Data regarding how many Puerto Rican's had no electric BEFORE the Hurricane?

While you are at it....check the data to see how many homes in the PR had no running water in their homes.

The Government there had run the country bankrupt and a humanitarian crisis was brewing without any help from the Hurricane....so please....get your facts straight before blaming Trump.....if your TDS will allow you two minutes of rational thought.

Two's in 14th Oct 2017 00:30


It seems obvious that Trump has blind hatred for everything accomplished by an intellectually capable black man...
Let me fix that for you Chuks.

chuks 14th Oct 2017 06:53

Why not, indeed?
 
"Why not do two minutes of research and look up the Data regarding how many Puerto Rican's had no electric ... ?"

Why not do one minute of research and look up the rules of written English re: the apostrophe, if you really want to engage your readers, SASless?

They're Puerto Ricans, not Puerto Rican's, and what they already lacked was electricity, not electric. (I think you caught some sort of bug listening to Trump blather on about "the nuclear.")

Anyway, yes, point taken: Puerto Ricans already had infrastructure problems before the hurricane hit. Anyone who had paid attention to the news about the island's debt crisis and its crumbling infrastructure knew that. What some of us are worked up about now, though, is Donald John Trump's ignorant and callous response to Puerto Rico's current problems. It seems as if he does not take the islanders for full-fledged American citizens. Instead they seem to have been taken for some sort of lazy greasers who just lie about waiting for Washington to do everything for them, nothing more. That is clearly the tone of Trump's rhetoric, and it's pretty rich coming from a fellow who wallows in luxury, much of it now on our dime.

Why mention the Puerto Rican debt in the same speech about helping the island? (To be fair to Trump, he did remind us that an island is something surrounded by water ... not a lot of people knew that.) That set the tone right there, and that tone has since worsened. The Trump narrative is one of fabulous levels of federal help being provided to lazy, feckless islanders who need a stern reminder that, sooner rather than later, they are going to have to pull on their flip-flops and get to shifting for themselves.

Toadstool 14th Oct 2017 06:59


Originally Posted by SASless (Post 9924436)
.....if your TDS will allow you two minutes of rational thought.

Trump Deity Syndrome?

KelvinD 14th Oct 2017 07:49

It seems Puerto Ricans are considered "natural born US citizens" yet they have no vote in US Federal affairs and, not being a State, they have no representation in Congress either. What does the Constitution make of that?

chuks 14th Oct 2017 09:14

We went on a short-lived imperialist spree, when we variously bought, stole or grabbed Alaska, Puerto Rico, the Philippines, Guam, American Samoa, the US Virgin Islands, the Hawaiian Islands, Kwajalein, etc., etc.

Puerto Rico is a sort of left-over from that period, left over after we decided that being imperialists was not really our thing. (What we had grabbed from Mexico ... that's a different matter!) Since we got Puerto Rico well after the USA had been founded, there was no provision in our already-existent electoral system for its people to have electoral votes, nor do they enjoy representation in our legislature from Representatives and Senators. Nobody has bothered to come up with a fix for this. (In fact, Washington, D.C. residents have a similar problem.)

He'll never cop to it, but I think that Trump was happily unaware that Puerto Ricans are US citizens, until his attitude got him into yet more trouble. Anyway, they are mostly short of stature, brown of complexion, and poor, plus they "talk funny," so "screw them." FEMA is going to work there for a decent interval and then leave them to wallow in what shall be told as a mess of their own making. That's my bet, anyway.

I worked with some Puerto Ricans back in the early Sixties in Connecticut, near New York City. They were part of a community called "Nuevo Ricans," Puerto Ricans who would shuttle back and forth between New York City (Nuevo York in Spanish) and San Juan, working menial jobs in the States to send money back to the island. (The ones I worked with were menials in a fancy ice cream parlor, when some could barely speak English so that none interacted with the Anglo customers.)

Puerto Rican nationalists did a terrorist attack in Washington, D.C. in the early Fifties, and West Side Story is a re-work of Romeo and Juliet that has Anglos and PRs as the two rival groups, plus that song about "Everything free in America," but Puerto Rico has mostly been left to quietly rot. Give it six months and it shall again be going mostly forgotten, aside from the matter of all those bonds, $70-plus billion worth.

wishiwasupthere 14th Oct 2017 12:16

Just when you thought Donald couldn't get any dumber.....

Donald Trump didn?t know he was president of the Virgin Islands

SASless 14th Oct 2017 13:58

Chuks,

You do acknowledge the Government of that smallish island north of Vieques is incompetent, has bankrupted the organization, and before the Hurricane were trying to get the Federal Government to bail their incompetent asses out by wiping the debt and pouring many Billions of US Dollars into the rescue?

When Hurricane Georges passed through the island there was no electricity anywhere for three weeks and not so long ago the entire island was without power for three days due to a fire of some kind.

How is the Federal Relief Operation going this time around?

There are almost Twenty Thousand Federal Workers/Military personnel engaged in Relief/Recovery Operations which strikes me as a significant response.

I know you hate Trump and your TDS gets in the way of your objectivity but this ain't Trump's Katrina.

Perhaps you need to kick off those Birkenstocks and put a pair of work boots back on and somehow regain a stable base from which to operate.

My time in Puerto Rico, back when Vieques had only rainwater cisterns, dirt roads, and a single Phone Box in Esperanza, and a people that very quickly told you they were not from the Big Island.....made me realize the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico had a ways to go to catch up with the Mainland.

We have seen the Mayor of San Juan debunked for what she is.....yet will you Anti-Trumpers accept those bogus claims were all made for political purposes and had no basis in fact?

Skip the lefty crap and deal with reality old fellow.....that time in the focus of liberal thought where you did your Liberal Arts Degree has rubbed off on you far more than you realize.

Besides....are you not living in Germany as a happy ex-pat and enjoying that standard of living and political thought?


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