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Concours77 29th Jul 2017 15:39

Winning is a perspective. Trump has the Press flummoxed, and chaos is a legitimate format.

The only way to change the status quo is by changing the status quo.

Hempy 29th Jul 2017 16:02


Originally Posted by Concours77
Winning is a perspective.

Try that concept with a bookmaker. Let us know how you get on :ok:

Two's in 29th Jul 2017 16:39

Surrounding yourself with sycophants and yes men is a well trodden leadership style that has worked to a degree for others - specifically Robert Mugabe, Idi Amin, Saddam Hussein, Pol Pot, Bashar Assad, Hugo Chavez. The list is depressingly long, and now it seems we get to join it. Even more winning. I'm not sure if it's the incompetence or the self-delusion that bothers me more.

lomapaseo 29th Jul 2017 17:31


Winning is a perspective. Trump has the Press flummoxed, and chaos is a legitimate format.
Agreed if you are running a horse race on a circular track with no agreed finish line. That way you keep passing the same horses and nobody know who's in the lead.

obgraham 29th Jul 2017 17:44


Originally Posted by Two's in (Post 9846006)
Surrounding yourself with sycophants and yes men is a well trodden leadership style that has worked to a degree for others - .

It's certainly not a style that started with this White House.

Concours77 29th Jul 2017 17:49


Originally Posted by Hempy (Post 9845984)
Try that concept with a bookmaker. Let us know how you get on :ok:

It is the bookmaker that is the problem, and his opinion is not to be respected.

We are in the midst of a borderline gentlemanly coup d'etat, and a rebellion of the people.

No bookmaker I know would take any bets. The American Process is bulletproof, the goal is to disarm the sharpshooters who care eff-all about the people.

ORAC 29th Jul 2017 19:04

You couldn't make this stuff up.....

Anthony Scaramucci's wife 'files for divorce because of her dislike of President Trump

Two's in 29th Jul 2017 20:59


It's certainly not a style that started with this White House.
But they have made rather an art form of it. In the military prior to promotion, Private soldiers and equivalent are taught the basics of leadership and the perils of bullying using that single stripe. Maybe the good General Kelley in his new role as CoS can give the White House staff the Lance Corporal lesson to save them some embarrassment. Although megalomaniac Corporals who get ahead of themselves is certainly a theme with this Administration, just like that Austrian guy some years back.

SASless 29th Jul 2017 21:47

Gee.....isn't there an Internet Rule somewhere about calling a person "Hitler" or alluding to such immediately causes one to lose the argument and all credibility?


http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...t-8209712.html

obgraham 29th Jul 2017 21:58

Godwin's Law, SAS, that's what you type when you've got nothin', but your fingers aren't tired yet.

tartare 30th Jul 2017 00:31

True - but the little Austrian didn't listen to those who knew better.
Ooops - sorry - the source is the BBC - fake news...:rolleyes:

The Sultan 30th Jul 2017 01:13

ORAC

The reason Smooch was so pissed for his finances being legally released was that now his wife has documentation of the half she will get.

lomapaseo 30th Jul 2017 01:59


The reason Smooch was so pissed for his finances being legally released was that now his wife has documentation of the half she will get.
But any divorce lawyer knows what's available in public records by digging. Perhaps the real problem is that the records don't match and that part of the story is yet to be uncovered.

But when you get a shark like Smooch, all the other fishes wait for him to get injured and then they feed off the body. Time will tell since there are bigger sharks out there who smell his fresh blood if he's oozing any.

Nobody really wants a Washington job unless they are well armed and/or shielded.

meadowrun 30th Jul 2017 02:39

Ahhhh, this isn't government - it's White House musical chairs with knives. simulcast on Twitter.

SASless 30th Jul 2017 02:45

I clicked on the UK Hamster Wheel by accident....and it was ten minute before I realized it was not the US thread.

Different names but the tone and content was pretty similar to this one.

The usual suspects are vilifying their own favorite whipping boy but they sure don't like the National Debt, Bankers, and politicians that try to hem in the spending.

But that is none of my business.

lomapaseo 30th Jul 2017 05:12

SASless


But that is none of my business.
anything posted on Jet Blast has to pass for review :)

Lonewolf_50 30th Jul 2017 06:27

Anthony Scaramucci and Donald Trump: two a-hole New Yorkers who reaffirm my general distaste for that city and its people.

SASless 30th Jul 2017 16:39

Trump is beginning to learn how to play Washington DC style politics!

Setting up a public reason to shift the current AG to a different Cabinet position is so very cool when viewed from the DC Polly view.

Sessions screwed up by Recusing himself (a ploy to keep him clear of that minefield) from the Russia Investigation and miffed the President.

Prez launches on a campaign via Twitter to make Sessions look in-effective and generate a reason to "remove" him from the AG seat....but shifts him to DHS to fill the vacancy left by moving the General from DHS to Chief of Staff.

Now he can shift Sessions to DHS and appoint a new AG that will not have to recuse himself and thus be able to directly handle the Russia Investigation.

The President is seen as being decisive....gets folks shifted around as he wishes....and the new AG has full authority and power within DOJ unlike the current AG.

Probably the next shift will be the number two guy in DOJ gets lots of time to go fishing or spend personal time with his children.

I agree with Lone....Folks from the Big Apple are quite hard to deal with most times!

Hempy 30th Jul 2017 17:16


Originally Posted by SASless (Post 9846864)
Trump is beginning to learn how to play Washington DC style politics!

Setting up a public reason to shift the current AG to a different Cabinet position is so very cool when viewed from the DC Polly view.

Sessions screwed up by Recusing himself (a ploy to keep him clear of that minefield) from the Russia Investigation and miffed the President.

Prez launches on a campaign via Twitter to make Sessions look in-effective and generate a reason to "remove" him from the AG seat....but shifts him to DHS to fill the vacancy left by moving the General from DHS to Chief of Staff.

Now he can shift Sessions to DHS and appoint a new AG that will not have to recuse himself and thus be able to directly handle the Russia Investigation.

The President is seen as being decisive....gets folks shifted around as he wishes....and the new AG has full authority and power within DOJ unlike the current AG.

Probably the next shift will be the number two guy in DOJ gets lots of time to go fishing or spend personal time with his children.

I agree with Lone....Folks from the Big Apple are quite hard to deal with most times!

I see the Trump Kool aid now comes with added vodka :rolleyes:

The only reason Trump wants to get rid of Sessions is so he can replace him with a lackey who's prepared to sell his soul and fire Mueller. The fact that Sessions was obligated by DoJ regulations to recuse seems to sail straight through the vacuum between Trumps ears...and his supporters as well it would appear.

As an aside, I was interested to read that Priebus didn't sign a non-disclosure agreement. I wonder is Mueller has called him yet and offered immunity...

Turbine D 30th Jul 2017 19:32


Now he can shift Sessions to DHS and appoint a new AG that will not have to recuse himself and thus be able to directly handle the Russia Investigation.
Not going to happen. Sessions made it clear he wants to be AJ. Trump is boxed in. Has to fire Sessions and if he does, he will be the first lame-duck president after 6 mo of his first term...


Sessions screwed up by Recusing himself (a ploy to keep him clear of that minefield) from the Russia Investigation and miffed the President.
Not true. :=

After Watergate in 1978, Congress passed a law requiring “the disqualification of any officer or employee of the Department of Justice, including a United States attorney or a member of such attorney’s staff, from participation in a particular investigation or prosecution if such participation may result in a personal, financial, or political conflict of interest, or the appearance thereof.”

The Justice Department implemented this language with rule 28 CFR Sec. 45.2. This bars employees from probes if they have a personal or political relationship with “any person or organization substantially involved in the conduct that is the subject of the investigation or prosecution” or which they know “has a specific and substantial interest that would be directly affected by the outcome of the investigation or prosecution.”


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