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con-pilot 13th Apr 2015 02:03


I can't wait till the first interview with tough questions.
You mean like the same tough questions that President Obama was asked when he was running for President and since becoming President by ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC and PBS?

Don't hold yer breath. :p


If left up to the media Hillary will be the next President. Even though the majority of states have Republican controlled Houses and Governorships, plus Republicans controlling the House and Senate.

Funny that.

421dog 13th Apr 2015 02:20

Maybe it's time to take a look at the rest of article V...

Dea Certe 13th Apr 2015 03:38

If the GOP can't find some sane somebody I fear Hilary maybe just be the next President. These crack pot Tea Partying crazy kooks, Libertarians who don't understand the Constitution or how the Government works are scaring everyone! What happened to the GOP my family supported? When did it get taken over by nutjobs?

I love my country. I want it to succeed. I want it to return to greatness. I don't believe we have to be in the forever wars, killing off our young men and women to support Capital. I think we can find a way to profit outside of war. A way to rebuilt our infrastructure.

We've let ourselves be suckered by the banks, scared by boogie man and had our pockets cleaned out some ridiculous nonsense.

I don't know. I don't believe anyone want to take our guns. Our second amendment is strong. I think the NRA needs to get busy teaching gun safety and making sure insane people don't ge theor hands on assault weapons.

I want to live in an educated society. I think prisons for profit are a remarkable bad idea. I think we need to legalize marijuana and tax the hell out of it, like we do liquor and tobacco.

Just some thoughts off the top of my head. Citizens United needs to be overturned.

I want my country back!

galaxy flyer 13th Apr 2015 03:50

Dea Certe,

You're way out there! Yes, Hilary is about the worst idea possible, you got that right.

GF

Dea Certe 13th Apr 2015 04:04

Galaxy flyer, what parts are way out there?

419 13th Apr 2015 04:09

Now that he's currently unemployed, I think that the BBC should employ Jeremy Clarkson as their political editor.
After all, back in 2007 he did predict that this might happen:

http://pics.imcdb.org/0is507/cadillac2rb0.656.jpg


West Coast 13th Apr 2015 04:39

Dea certe

Can help but chuckle when you hammer the libertarians yet in your post you espouse many libertarian principles.

obgraham 13th Apr 2015 04:46


Originally Posted by John Hill (Post 8941594)
So it is true then, Hillary is going to be the next POTUS?

Yes. Prepare for an increased population in NZ.

John Hill 13th Apr 2015 05:01

I dont think so, why would anyone run away from Hillary to a socialist paradise like NZ? Besides, you would have to leave your guns behind.

Dea Certe 13th Apr 2015 05:14

Hilary is not a shoo in. There must be a credible, electable person. We haven't seen that so far from the GOP. I think the American public is still a little annoyed by that letter sent to the Iranians.

Gf, so what sounds like the espousal of libertarian philosophy in what I posted? I'm about improving our country for all of us, not just myself or the entitled few. I don't mind paying my fair share. I deeply resent Corporate welfare and the destruction of our middle class through Corporate Greed. I don't trust our Corporations to not poison us without proper oversight. Like the EPA, the FDA, the USDA, etc. We need OSHA and Workers Comp. We need banking regulation. We need the SEC and Stock Watch.

OK, St Jerome was right, the Love of Money is the root of all Evil but other than that, we need a strict separation of Church and State. I don't care what goes on between two consenting adults. What goes on between me and my doctor is not the business of anyone else.

I believe in the Death Penalty. Child molesters, rapists and murderers should be dealt with quick and sure justice. (I'm fine with dealing it out)

Hmmm, now that I've thought about it, perhaps I should run.

West Coast 13th Apr 2015 06:07


Gf, so what sounds like the espousal of libertarian philosophy in what I posted?
That was me, not GF.

Certain wishes and wants you listed. I'm in agreement with you. Perhaps you should run, give Billary a run for her money.

ORAC 13th Apr 2015 07:46


ORAC 13th Apr 2015 11:04

Written by a Brit in the USA...

History written by the losers

General Robert E Lee surrendered to General Ulysses S. Grant on 9th April 1865, one hundred and fifty years ago. What do Americans make of this? Has this historical event been as marked as the outbreak of World War I was marked here in 2014? During the extensive coverage everyone spoke of their family connections to that conflict as well as of the nations lurching and clashing.

Gore Vidal said of the American Civil War:- “my mother’s family had fought for the Confederacy and my father’s for the Union, and that the Civil War was – and is – to the United States what the Trojan War was to the Greeks, the great single tragic event that continues to give resonance to our Republic.”...................

......On the 150th anniversary the song The Night they drove old Dixie down went on to Facebook, and for its 5 minutes I could think “tragedy” instead of “well-deserved thrashing. “



In the way of a good ballad it tells as much in its three verses as a novel would do in 300 pages, of the displaced Southerner Virgil Caine. Stoneman’s cavalry tears up the railway tracks – well, this was the first railroad war. Virgil Caine goes back to chopping wood and working the land – the rural south vs the industrialised north. The proud and brave older brother in his grave by eighteen haunts like the thousands images we see of the young soldiers in this much photographed war. When I read Edmund Wilson’s great anthology of Civil War writings, Patriotic Gore, the good grammatical plain English and excellent hand-writing of ordinary people in the nineteenth century as well as of generals like Sherman and Grant were familiar. Those Anglos in a plantation colony are recognisable kin.

What I know of this war is through my heart and mind but Americans must feel it in their blood and bones. What do they make of it? Or has it become something like the Napoleonic Wars – interesting, but distant and unfelt. It nearly half a century since The Band sang that song in The Last Waltz.

Gene adds: I took this photo this morning about a mile-and-a-half from where I live in Lexington Virginia:

http://hurryupharry.org/wp-content/u...8766571997.jpg

Lexington is the burial location of Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson. Lee is buried in a chapel at Washington and Lee University, where he served as president after the war and where my niece is now a professor.

Lexington is a largely liberal and Democratic town surrounded by much more conservative and Republican rural areas. A few years ago the city council voted to allow the display only of the United States and Commonwealth of Virginia flags, effectively banning the display of Confederate flags on city property and causing outrage among groups such as the Sons of Confederate Veterans. More recently the removal of a Confederate flag from the Lee Chapel caused another brouhaha.

Living in Lexington is a constant reminder of William Faulkner’s truism: “The past is never dead. It’s not even past.”

rgbrock1 13th Apr 2015 12:23

The fawning media ask Hillary meaningful questions and taking her to task if necessary? Bah. Ain't gonna happen. The same fawning media will ensure that Hillary is elected POTUS if they have their way about it.

And when you think about it, unless the GOP can come up with a viable, strong and sensible candidate who also appeals to certain demographics in this country then Hillary will indeed win. Let's be frank: Latinos and black Americans will view her just as they viewed Billy boy: the first black American president.

If the GOP can't find a way of appealing to the minority demographics then the next time we have a GOP president might be around the time life in the Andromeda galaxy is discovered.

Having said that, I think the Jebster and Ben Carson might just be the ticket home.

rgbrock1 13th Apr 2015 14:34

I found it interesting that Mr. O'Bummer claimed in a speech yesterday that "the cold war is over." He said this in relation to the re-opening of relations with Cuba.

The cold war is over? It think Vlad over in Russia might think otherwise. Or perhaps O'Bummer hasn't noticed. Yet.

Dea Certe 13th Apr 2015 17:58

I don't think Americans want yet another rerun of the Bush family. And with Dick Cheney and Karl Rove out there reminding everyone just how bad the last Bush was...Jeb is a non starter. Did Jeb truly lie about his race being Latino? Or is this a joke? And Hilary is just going to bring a nonstop barrage of nonstop jabber about Biil's peccadilloes and speculation on her sex life. Too tiresome. Americans don't want a dynasty of either Bush or Clinton, from what I hear around.

Rand Paul is likely to throw a temper fit and quit. Rubio, doubtful, very doubtful. Jindal? No. He's too dark for the racists. And Weird. Christie has a trail of scandals. Who's that governor from Texas, the good looking one who may have some serious legal problems? Rick Perry. He's out.

Hilary may just be the one we hold our nose for who wins. The one who is deep in the back pocket of the banks and big business. So, unless you are trust funders, which I doubt as I figure you're mostly airline people like myself, we better bring the GOP back to center.

rgbrock1 13th Apr 2015 19:09

Dea Certe:

And which of Chris Christie's scandals do you speak of? The "Bridgegate" one?
A bunch of shit that was, inflamed by the gasoline of the media for something that should have remained a non-issue.

And how does Christie's scandal compare to the numerous scandals of Ms. Clinton? Not even close.


So, unless you are trust funders, which I doubt as I figure you're mostly airline people like myself, we better bring the GOP back to center.
Back to center? I"m fine with that to a degree. Not trying to toot Christie's horn but he, more than any of the other announced candidates SO FAR, would be able to do so.

Robert Cooper 13th Apr 2015 21:57

While we endure the daily lies of Obama, do we really want to have another four to eight years more of Hillary Clinton’s? It’s not like we don’t have ample evidence of her indifference to the truth and that is not what America wants in a President, now or ever.

Bob C

con-pilot 13th Apr 2015 23:27

No more Bushs or Clintons.

But the Democrats have bet the whole pile on Hillary and is stuck with her come hell or high water. Which may be a really poor bet.

Let's hope so. :E

As for Jeb, I don't think he'll take Florida in the primary, as he remains at the bottom of the list poll wise.

Who I would give about anything to see run for President, Condoleezza "Condi" Rice


But that is not going to happen.

West Coast 13th Apr 2015 23:51

I wouldn't be surprised to see her in the number two slot on someone's ticket.


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