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flash8 14th Mar 2019 20:20


brokering a deal under which one of his relatives agreed to hand a missing 14-year-old girl to police at a petrol station after receiving an assurance that he would not be prosecuted.....
wtf? Am I reading this correctly?

ORAC 8th May 2019 09:35

https://www.rotherhamadvertiser.co.u...ims-_31846.htm

Rotherham child sex abuse inquiry: 40 investigated after 13 alleged victims come forward

ORAC 21st Jun 2019 16:08

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crim...-a4172666.html

West Yorkshire Police arrest 44 over historic child sex abuse claims

Police in Yorkshire have arrested 44 people over historical allegations of child sexual abuse. They were arrested as part of an inquiry centred on allegations from four women that they were abused as children, predominantly in the towns of Dewsbury and Batley, between 1995 and 2002.

Three women and 36 men have been arrested over the past two weeks in connection with the investigation, along with five other men at the end of last year, West Yorkshire Police said........

The 44 people were arrested from addresses across Kirklees, Bradford and Leeds. They have been interviewed and released under investigation.



ORAC 29th Aug 2019 19:01

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/s...rham-r7bs0jkj3

Six men guilty of abusing teenage girls in Rotherham

Six men have been convicted of sex offences against girls in Rotherham in the latest phase of an inquiry into the exploitation of vulnerable teenagers.

They were found guilty of crimes against seven children, all of whom were under 16, between 1998 and 2002. Victims were given drugs and alcohol and some were raped by several men.

Yesterday’s verdicts followed a five-week trial at Sheffield crown court, which was told that the teenagers were preyed upon by men who often picked them up outside their schools. Violence was sometimes used to ensure that they complied with their abusers’ demands.

Abid Saddiq, 38, was convicted of two charges of rape, five of indecent assault, and two of child abduction. Sharaz Hussain, 35, Masaued Malik, 35, and Aftab Hussain, 40, were convicted of indecent assault. Two other defendants who cannot be named were convicted of rape and indecent assault.

The men, who face sentencing tomorrow, were arrested under Operation Stovewood, an inquiry into child sexual exploitation between 1997 and 2013. More than 200 staff are involved in the operation, which was started after an independent inquiry found in 2014 that in those 16 years more than 1,400 children from the town were abused by predatory groups of men.


nonsense 30th Aug 2019 01:08


Originally Posted by A320ECAM (Post 10345451)
I am glad I got out of Britain before this multiculturalism bollocks!

Prince Andrew is presumably just fine, being monocultural? Rolf Harris should have been suspected all along, being a foreigner?

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...t-finger-on-it
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/p...-a4223011.html


The Nip 18th Jan 2020 07:19

Will the truth finally appear as to the true reasons all this abuse has been ignored.

Today's Times.


SaveA senior police officer admitted that his force ignored the sexual abuse of girls by Pakistani grooming gangs for decades because it was afraid of increasing “racial tensions”, a watchdog has ruled.

After a five-year investigation, the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) upheld a complaint that the Rotherham officer told a missing child’s distraught father that the town “would erupt” if it was known that Asian men were routinely having sex with under-age white girls.

Or because the are poor 'white' girls they deserve it? Answers to Naz Shah. Labour MP

.It said: ‘Those abused girls in Rotherham and elsewhere just need to shut their mouths. For the good of diversity.’ The 43-year-old later deleted her retweet and unliked the post.

Obviously when you get caught out!

flash8 7th Mar 2020 05:55


The Independent revealing that the Home Office refused to publish the document and claimed it was not in the “public interest”.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9380981.html

So government refuses to reveal it's findings. Can't imagine why.

Something to do with this?

Grooming ‘epidemic’ as almost 19,000 children identified as sexual exploitation victims in England...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9215261.html

Slaine 7th Mar 2020 07:24

Telling how the the banning of A320ECAM in this very thread mirrors the same feeble minded Politcally correct dogma that allowed the scandel being discussed in the thread
I wonder if the mods/admins responsible even realise it

KelvinD 8th Mar 2020 20:40

While looking at something totally unrelated on youtube earlier today, I was directed to this:
This is the testimony of a former police officer who tried his hardest to get something done about child exploitation in London. I don't suppose anyone will be surprised to learn he is now very much an "ex-Met Police officer"!
I had never heard of the bloke until this link was suggested to me. His name is John Wedger. In essence he has said the rot begins at the top and percolates down.
Well recommended (although not for the Ted Heath apologists!)

Torquetalk 8th Mar 2020 21:38


Originally Posted by KelvinD (Post 10707081)
While looking at something totally unrelated on youtube earlier today, I was directed to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t4dDJbjkH0
This is the testimony of a former police officer who tried his hardest to get something done about child exploitation in London. I don't suppose anyone will be surprised to learn he is now very much an "ex-Met Police officer"!
I had never heard of the bloke until this link was suggested to me. His name is John Wedger. In essence he has said the rot begins at the top and percolates down.
Well recommended (although not for the Ted Heath apologists!)

But is John Wedger the fearless, courageous and honest whistleblower that he would have people believe?

The following links (tedious listening and reading unfortunately) suggest John Wedger should not simply be taken at face value


https://barthsnotes.com/2019/01/02/p...maggie-oliver/

KelvinD 8th Mar 2020 23:41

Thanks for that TT. It is a bit late now so will be viewed tomorrow. One part of his testimony that gave me a hint of a warning bell was the "Hallelujah! It is all God's work" theme he alluded to.

KelvinD 9th Mar 2020 08:25

Well, that was interesting, although not exactly informative. In fact, the 2nd link (barthsnotes) leads to some contradictory accounts. It seems to start out as an attack on the GMP detective Maggie Oliver but provides nothing of substance other than a link to a police whistleblowers forum which appears to condemn Wedger and Oliver for not doing things their way, rather than accusing them of making things up.
The video from the Hoaxted youtube account is worse than tedious; it doesn't say much of anything other than to expose the facts behind the criminal history of the female pimp, referred to as "Foxy".
A search for the Hoaxtead group shows lots of denunciations of this group, including this lady's blog:
https://www.hopegirlblog.com/2018/05...satanic-roots/

Torquetalk 9th Mar 2020 10:04


Originally Posted by KelvinD (Post 10707517)
Well, that was interesting, although not exactly informative. In fact, the 2nd link (barthsnotes) leads to some contradictory accounts. It seems to start out as an attack on the GMP detective Maggie Oliver but provides nothing of substance other than a link to a police whistleblowers forum which appears to condemn Wedger and Oliver for not doing things their way, rather than accusing them of making things up.
The video from the Hoaxted youtube account is worse than tedious; it doesn't say much of anything other than to expose the facts behind the criminal history of the female pimp, referred to as "Foxy".
A search for the Hoaxtead group shows lots of denunciations of this group, including this lady's blog:
https://www.hopegirlblog.com/2018/05...satanic-roots/


Yes, it is anything but clear. But would it be?

I think the detailed (and excruciatingly dull) account of Foxy is in itself worth a lot. Because it appears to show Wedger to be a liar or fantasist or both. If he is so loose and wild with matters which are a matter of historical record, what else is to be believed?

And has not the recent IICSA which encompassed politicians and pedophile sex rings pretty much debunked institutional conspiracy, finding isolated peadophilia amongst some members (Smith obviously), turning a blind eye (Steele obviously) and agencies not acting fully iaw the law (the Police). Bit like Saville and the BBC - clearly some people knew, others suspected, few if any, did the right thing. But ain‘t that the way in all walks of life? The 70s and 80s were more chauvinistic and deferential than today. An in some respects quietly awful. These days the grooming gangs are just another area where too many people looked away and failed the girls involved.

KelvinD 9th Mar 2020 11:01

I agree with what you say but how would one explain other accounts originating in different forces across the land.
I wish I could remember the name now but I recently read an autobiography by a long serving police officer who worked throughout South London and when he came across things that didn't seem right in Lambeth, things started happening to him such as finding he was posted to a unit that suddenly went out of existence, then reappeared under a different name and housed in disused office blocks etc.
And then there is the case of the Wiltshire Chief Constable who investigated and wrote the report on Ted Heath. Things became difficult for him and an issue involving damage to his police issued phone were raised. He had initially said the phone was damaged by being run over by a golf cart. He later apologised for this excuse to the commission investigating the incident, saying he had actually damaged it during a fit of pique when he whacked his golf bag with a club, following a particularly bad shot. The investigation had begun as a result of someone claiming he had damaged the phone deliberately in order to destroy information relating to the Ted Heath inquiry. As well as apologising for his lying about how the damage was incurred initially, which he said was to try to avoid embarrassment at his bad tempered outburst on the golf course, he had his labs retrieve all the data from the phone. The inquiry subsequently found he had nothing wrong, other than his poor judgement in making up a story to cover his embarrassment and should perhaps face sanctions for that part of his conduct. Meanwhile, he had applied and been accepted for a new position with the Teesside force. Suddenly, he was sacked by them for reasons that are not entirely clear.
The whole issue is murky in the extreme and I wonder if we will ever learn the truth?

flash8 9th Mar 2020 19:04


And then there is the case of the Wiltshire Chief Constable
And then there was Stalker.... a fine man much maligned by those who were not happy with his findings... a textbook case in slurring.

Torquetalk 9th Mar 2020 19:32


Originally Posted by flash8 (Post 10708057)
And then there was Stalker.... a fine man much maligned by those who were not happy with his findings... a textbook case in slurring.

Yep. Bang on (also with respect to your comments Kelvin)

But that is the old copper culture - not an organisation that should be allowed to self-monitor. Not even another constabulary. Processes can‘t eliminate that inherent organizational loyalty.

ORAC 20th May 2020 07:18

As a note, this whole thing came to light over 6 years ago and is still ongoing.

https://www.lbcnews.co.uk/crime/uk/b...exual-exploit/


Bradford: 27 men arrested in connection with online child sexual exploitation


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