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Sir George Cayley 26th Aug 2014 22:04

I've a problem with the phrase 'lessons will be learnt'. How to go about guarding our young from evil is practiced daily across the land and I'm sure there are shining examples out there.

So the phrase should more properly be 'lessons not learnt'.


belfrybat 26th Aug 2014 22:07

Odd that the report couldn't be written without any mention of ethnicity. I can't see any reason for not omitting it.

500N 26th Aug 2014 22:08

Sir George

Very good and true point indeed.

Seems every couple of years an example turns up be it the UK, US (the Church), Oz (The Church and other religious orgs that were charge with looking after the children) and probably many others.

Lessons are not learnt, they are swept aside, hidden or forgotten and
some of the people promoted out of the way !!! The Vatican seems a good place to try to move people ! ;)

6000PIC 26th Aug 2014 22:46

The denial of justice to these estimated 1400 vulnerable children is a disgrace for British society and a failure of the Police , social workers , local government , and parents. Those found at fault should be named. All of them.
The enemies of Britain are watching how we respond. Political correctness is destroying the centuries old , hard - won social fabric , morality and ethics of this great nation , and while we're at it , multiculturalism will never work without explicit rights and responsibilities for all. Don't like it ? Don't worry about leaving , you will be deported. See how you like living in Pakistan.
If the enemies of Britain see that we tolerate this by our inaction as a society , well good luck to us all in the future. I put the blame for this at the altar of religion , how's that for PC ?

G-CPTN 26th Aug 2014 23:03

[Tongue in cheek]Forgive them, for they know not what they do[/Tongue in cheek]

500N 26th Aug 2014 23:07

As we are finding out in Aus, it is endemic in some cultures and they don't lose it when they come to a new country.

A good example is underage marriage.

Since a few have been "uncovered" here in Aus, they are now targeting this sector of society.

The same as rape of young girls by Indians and Pakistani's is par for the course in those countries,
although the attitude seems to be changing !

Capot 26th Aug 2014 23:08

"I am in charge but I am not responsible"
Yup, we all know that one, and the other one

"I take full responsibility",
delivered in sonorous tones by the incompetent fool at the top, who has no intention of resigning, paying back the money, what ever it might be. "Taking full responsibility" appears to be fully discharged, in the weird, corrupt world of the great and good, by saying that's what you are doing, and no more.

There are exceptions, and one person involved in the S Yorkshire saga has resigned, having "taken responsibility". Now, what's the betting that he has gone off with a fat pension intact, possibly a pay-off, and a new job in a year or two?

BOING 27th Aug 2014 02:04

"Lessons have been learned" means "Yes, I screwed up royally but overnight I have changed all my ways, been personally forgiven by God and I am now ready to resume my (well paid and cushy) career with a new wisdom and humility. ( If you dumb sods just buy the story).

Feed the B*****ds to the sharks.

500N 27th Aug 2014 02:09


That first paragraph sounds just like the description of Cardinal Pell,
who went from Archbishop of Melbourne, then Sydney to the Vatican
where he has since been promoted :rolleyes:

All the while responding to what we call over here a "Royal Commission" inquiry about how he and
others covered up abuse in the Catholic Church and paid off victims and hindered them from going
to the Police.

Yep, they get away with Murder.

flash8 27th Aug 2014 02:42

BBC: The inquiry team noted fears among council staff of being labelled "racist" if they focused on victims' descriptions of the majority of abusers as "Asian" men.
And the BBC, quoting "Asian" rather than the specific ethnicity of the abusers is just as complicit. You couldn't make it up.

What a shit country the UK really is now, it really has sunk to unimaginable depths.

I feel less proud to be British as every day passes.

sitigeltfel 27th Aug 2014 05:38

An insight into the mindset of those who are running the show...

"we should not concentrate on the fact that the majority of the perpetrators were of Pakistani origin because this will lead people to overlook other races who are involved in these practices."
A commentator on R4 last night.

ExRAFRadar 27th Aug 2014 05:59

I used "Lessons will be learnt" in an ironic sense because that is what these scum ALWAYS say.

As to learnt or learned :

"What is the difference between learned and learnt?
These are alternative forms of the past tense and past participle of the verb learn. Learnt is more common in British English, and learned in American English. There are a number of verbs of this type (burn, dream, kneel, lean, leap, spell, spill, spoil etc.). They are all irregular verbs, and this is a part of their irregularity

source: Ask Oxford.com (Oxford Dictionaries)"

Now FFS get a life or at least Google it before hijacking a thread on Child Abuse with discussions about the English Language.

500N 27th Aug 2014 06:21


That is one of the biggest cop outs I have seen.

How about "bust this Paki lot and then look for others in other cultures".

sitigeltfel 27th Aug 2014 06:29

People at the top of Rotherham Council are refusing to resign.....

Strategic Director of Children and Young Peoples Services: 125,530
Strategic Director Development Services: 125,530
Strategic Director of Neighbourhoods and Adults Services: 125,530
Strategic Director of Resources: 132,954

Where else would such useless people find employment except in this Socialist cabal?

Remember, this was the council that removed children from a foster family because they were supporters of a heinous organisation called UKIP.

Following the removal of the children after two months of care, the couple, in their fifties, told the BBC they were "bereft".
They said they were told their care was exemplary, but their UKIP membership had presented a "safeguarding issue for the children".
The couple said they had joined UKIP because of its stance on Europe, but social workers said the party had "racist" policies.
Following an internal review, Rotherham Council said it had taken action to strengthen the way it made decisions and how it communicated information.
It said there were still "important lessons" to be learned.
BBC News - Rotherham Council apologises over UKIP foster row

I know what lessons should be impressed on those responsible, but they will probably be allowed to slither away with their pensions intact.

SOPS 27th Aug 2014 06:46

It is simply time to get rid of PC and start mass deportations. It is obvious now that these people hate the west and the western countries that they live in. It is time to send them all back to the cultures they desire to live in. Then they can shoot, kill, blow up, rape who ever they want. All while banging their heads on the floor 5 times a day.

500N 27th Aug 2014 06:59

Then they can shoot, kill, blow up, rape who ever they want. All while banging their heads on the floor 5 times a day.
You forgot "screwing the pooch" or goat or donkey or whatever the want to fck !.

I'd even say they will be given a free suicide vest each as well as any animal they choose ;)

Andy_S 27th Aug 2014 07:26

Originally Posted by Andy_S (Post 8625759)
This is assuming, of course, that the PCC isn't some local party political hack who was part of the problem to start with......

Jeez.... I genuinely had no idea how quickly it would come to light....

BBC News - Rotherham child abuse: Commissioner faces calls to resign

500N 27th Aug 2014 07:34


It gets worse. In that link, the PCC was "PCC Shaun Wright was responsible for children's services at
Rotherham Council from 2005 to 2010."

So not only is he now PCC but was in charge of the children during that time !

You could not make it up !

sitigeltfel 27th Aug 2014 07:35

Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 8626405)
It is obvious now that these people hate the west and the western countries that they live in. It is time to send them all back to the cultures they desire to live in. Then they can shoot, kill, blow up, rape who ever they want. All while banging their heads on the floor 5 times a day.

They're not happy

They're not happy in Gaza ..
They're not happy in Egypt ..
They're not happy in Libya ..
They're not happy in Morocco ..
They're not happy in Iran ..
They're not happy in Iraq ..
They're not happy in Yemen ...
They're not happy in Afghanistan ...
They're not happy in Pakistan ..
They're not happy in Syria ..
They're not happy in Lebanon ..


They're happy in Australia ..
They're happy in Canada ..
They're happy in England ..
They're happy in France ..
They're happy in Italy ....
They're happy in Germany ..
They're happy in Sweden ...
They're happy in the USA ..
They're happy in Norway ...
They're happy in Holland ..
They're happy in Denmark ...

Basically, they're happy in every country that is not Muslim
and unhappy in every country that is!


Not Islam.
Not their leadership.
Not themselves.


AND THEN - They want to change those countries to be like
Excuse me, but I can't help wondering...
How damned dumb can you get?
Everyone seems to be wondering why Muslim
Terrorists are so quick to commit suicide.
Lets have a look at the evidence:
- No Christmas
- No television
- No nude women
- No football
- No pork chops
- No hot dogs
- No burgers
- No beer
- No bacon
- Rags for clothes
- Towels for hats
- Constant wailing from some idiot in a tower
- More than one wife
- More than one mother-in-law
- You can't shave
- Your wife can't shave
- You can't wash off the smell of donkeys
- You cook over burning camel shit
- Your wife is picked by someone else for you
- and your wife smells worse than your donkey
- Then they tell them that "when they die, it all gets better"???

Well No Shit Sherlock!....
It's not like it could get much worse!

tony draper 27th Aug 2014 07:36

There is a obvious sociological reason for the phenomenon, in that culture they are not allowed even a sniff of the females of their own society until their wedding night, and the girls know if they even stray slightly they are liable to end up being buried somewhere on the moors by pop and bro for offending family honor,ergo if they dont want to spend most of their lives pulling themselves they look around and see what is easiest available.
They live by the rules of a religion designed to keep a bunch of illiterate goat herders living in a tent village under control and prevent them nobbing each others wives and daughters and sharing the bairns out at xmas.

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