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Stanwell 11th Dec 2015 13:34

prospector & chuboy,
I could not agree more.

Playing with young and impressionable minds is, as far as I'm concerned, OFF !
It is, however, a multi-billion dollar industry and whether they're peddling Paradise or Happy Burgers, the methods are similar.

I heard some wise words a few years back...
"Hell hath no fury like a vested interest posing as a moral principle".

So... Good luck.

At ease 11th Dec 2015 16:28


Maybe it's time we banned denominational schools altogether and confined any discussions in the classroom to the study of religions generally. If you want to learn more about Islam or Buddhism or Christianity do so after school at the applicable place of worship.
I am forever thankful that my parents made the sacrifices involved in sending me, and my brother and sister, to a Catholic school.

There is plenty enough time after finishing high school to be fed socialist, feminist rubbish at university.

Again, thankfully, I studied a hard degree at university at night time whilst holding down a job during the day, so I didn't have time to join in the soft cock degree students pastimes of protests, conception day pranks/drinking, drugs etc.

prospector 11th Dec 2015 19:05

Religion has been used to describe the Islamist faith.

That is a very big mistake. It is not a religion as most of the christian community would call a religion.

It dominates your whole life, it teaches you to obey Sharia Law, which will be at odds with the law of the country in which they have decided to settle.... It orders you to pray five times a day, to the same God that if your neighbor believes a different version of the same fairy tale justifies blowing them up in places of war such as market places, bus stops etc.

To import this faith into a country, and allow schools to teach young minds that this is the correct way to live your life is stupidity, and will surely end in tears.

To teach such drivel as this in this day and age is beyond belief, but it is happening in Australia.

"The principal holds beliefs that if females run excessively, they may 'lose their virginity',"

MTOW 11th Dec 2015 20:39

It seems to me we could fix many of not most of the problems we in the West have encountered with our new citizens from certain parts of the world if we could find a lawyer/politician with the courage to introduce legislation declaring Islam not to be a religion under the terms that we in the West recognise a religion.

Any such legislation would in no way inhibit how many times a day a believer in Islam chooses to kneel on a prayer mat and face in a certain direction, nor in any of the other practices he or she feels should be carried out that are within the law. (And that last phrase is all-important.)

criticalmass 11th Dec 2015 21:03

We could fix a lot more problems by simply abandoning the toxic idealogy of multiculturalism. I posted an in-depth anaylsis of this toxic idea many, many pages of threads ago and I do not intend to repeat myself here.

Just abandon the idea and have one culture - the Australian culture.
Have one language - English. Learn it and use it.
Have one set of laws - Australian law (the usual mish-mash of local, state or federal). Obey them and live by them.
If you can't be an Australian, then leave Australia to those who can and who want to.

Monoculturalism unites. Multiculturalism divides so the proponents can rule using it. It has been fantastically successful for them - and is a poisoned chalice for the nation as a whole.
Get rid of it.

Alternative: The Australian Civil War, which will be the single most bloody, deadly and ferocious civil war in the sorry history of mankind. If it happens, the Left will ally with Radical Islam in a bid to seize power. The Right will fight both to the death, and the middle will be slaughtered without quarter by both sides until fewer than four million Australians remain.

Choose wisely, Australia. The futures of your children, grand-children and posibly great grand-children may well rest on whether you can rid yourselves of the treason of multiculturalism or not.

Eddie Dean 11th Dec 2015 22:12

The policy of multiculturalism in Australia was started by Al Grassby in about 1973, based on a visit he had to Canadia, interesting reading here:
https://www.dss.gov.au/our-responsib...-the-policy-of

MTOW 12th Dec 2015 01:07

I sincerely hope you're wrong, criticalmass.

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 12th Dec 2015 01:17


The Australian Civil War, which will be the single most bloody, deadly and ferocious civil war in the sorry history of mankind.
Go Aussies!! Doing it better than anyone else....again!!!

Ethel the Aardvark 12th Dec 2015 01:39

we need a preppers in OZ tv show as well

SOPS 12th Dec 2015 01:52

Ethel and Hempy and their mates are loosing control of the narrative at last. Thanks ( and I don't mean thank you) to a mix of radical bearded whack jobs, Mz Merkel and her misguided ideas, hand wringing do nothing politicians, amonst other things, the right, and in some cases...the far right are on the move.

chuboy 12th Dec 2015 03:03


Originally Posted by At ease (Post 9207745)
I am forever thankful that my parents made the sacrifices involved in sending me, and my brother and sister, to a Catholic school.

There is plenty enough time after finishing high school to be fed socialist, feminist rubbish at university.

What exactly do you think goes on in non-denominational schools :confused:

Flying Binghi 12th Dec 2015 03:57

Meanwhile, Oz foreign minister bisHop, and about forty other hanger-oners, is holidaying in Paris at taxpayer expense.

China thinks it is all a joke...

"...Paris is a theatre– a grand show, and China’s Vice Foreign Minister Liu Jianmin said as much. He “laughed when the ‘High Ambition Coalition’ was mentioned. “It is a kind of performance,” he said, “It makes no difference.”..."

Why China, India and Russia want to be bought off for the Paris Climate PR Spectacle JoNova




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Fubaar 12th Dec 2015 04:01


What exactly do you think goes on in non-denominational schools
chuboy, judging by their product, 100% huggy-fluff leftie propaganda posing as 'educayshun'.

CoodaShooda 12th Dec 2015 06:05

Chuboy

Just what belief structure would you base your new education system on?

Capitalism only works for the fortunate minority. Taken full term, any capitalistic society will ultimately fail from within.

Socialism only works for an even smaller elite a la USSR, North Korea, China, Eastern Bloc. It's approach to education is only too obvious from the results of the past 40 years of Australian government-run education systems. Orwell was only writing about how he saw the ideas of his time working out.

If you are looking at promoting cohesive and supportive social behaviour, oh dear, you are back to the basic tenets of the major religious brands.

Things like "not killing" or "not bearing false witness" appear in all the texts but how they are applied is then corrupted by whichever brand you are listening to and the competition between their human mouthpieces.

How about we try a humanistic approach. We only need to breed out greed, avarice, aggression, passivity, ego etc etc. That's not too much to ask, is it?

RJM 12th Dec 2015 06:17


Just what belief system would you base your new education system on?
Try reading, writing and arithmetic. Leave the moralising to the family, literature, singers, etc. Let people work out how best to behave for themselves.

On a larger scale, the government should stick to roads, hospitals and police. Ham-fisted attempts at social engineering - eg funding groups which want to change social behaviour, is not only unjustified but is a waste of money that could be better spent fixing potholes.

prospector 12th Dec 2015 06:28


oh dear, you are back to the basic tenets of the major religious brands.
Do unto others as you would have done unto you, should be the whole of the law, but would appear to be very hard to live up to.

Flying Binghi 12th Dec 2015 23:35

Oh dear, what a surprise. That corrupt Banker's boy turnBull is allowing them money wasting windmills again. I wonder who profits from it..:hmm:

And bank profiting carbon trading is being looked at again... now who coulda for-seen that..:hmm:




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Dark Knight 13th Dec 2015 00:15

plus COP21

MONEY

Industrialised countries will a deliver a minimum US$100 billion a year in public and private funding to help poorer nations cope with climate change.

This figure will be reviewed in 2025 - developing countries wanted it scaled-up over time.

Other countries - particularly big emerging economies traditionally considered developing, such as China - can make voluntary contributions to helping poorer nations. This was an important to developed countries, which want to expand the number of countries that donate.


I await for Malcolm Turnbull and Scott Morrison to tell how much it is going to cost us?

Who is going to pay?

Those that cannot work, do not want to work and will not work?

chuboy 13th Dec 2015 00:22


Originally Posted by Flying Binghi (Post 9208900)
Oh dear, what a surprise. That corrupt Banker's boy turnBull is allowing them money wasting windmills again. I wonder who profits from it..:hmm:

What's the problem? You'd rather people became rich the traditional way, digging a mine into the countryside? :p

Dark Knight 13th Dec 2015 00:41


You'd rather people became rich the traditional way, digging a mine into the countryside?
If it provides the minerals required to assist and improve peoples lives and lifestyle; provides power, heat and cooling sound like a good idea to me.

Additionally, it is going to continue to happen regardless of the opinions and actions of those who can find or `create' an objection against it!


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