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underfire 20th Nov 2015 03:44

Remember, guns are illegal in AUS..

November 20, 2015 headlines:

ONE night....Melbourne

A man suspected of walking down the street with a gun and pulling it on a group of teenagers has been arrested following a siege in Melbourne.

Armed police have arrested a Melbourne man who allegedly used a gun to steal a car.

A Melbourne man has been shot at after he stopped to check on a woman whose car was blocking a street.

Two people are in hospital under police guard after officers were fired at in Melbourne.

Sydney:

Four guns, drugs and more than 250 rounds of ammunition have been discovered inside a home in Sydney's west.

Man allegedly caught toting a sub-machine gun and hundreds of rounds of ammunition in broad daylight has been refused bail in a Sydney court this morning.

Pinky the pilot 20th Nov 2015 03:50


guns are illegal in AUS..
Errr, not quite!

No idea where you got that from. No full auto or semi auto long arms permissible but most others permitted.:hmm:

You must be licenced and have the firearms registered though.

However, I would bet that in all the instances you quoted not one firearm would have been held or obtained legally.:* And none of the offenders would have been licenced!:mad:

Stanwell 20th Nov 2015 05:16

Port Darwin sold to the Chinese!
Well, not really - it's only a ninety-nine year lease. So that's all right then.
Besides, it's only partly a military port.

Ah yes. We are so lucky to have Chinese 'investment' in our key infrastructure.
Am I the only one that wonders just what has been going on behind closed doors?


p.s. I hear President Obama's reaction to the news was along the lines of ... WTF..?!

MTOW 20th Nov 2015 06:37


In other news, I see a boat nearly made it to Christmas this morning.
Apparently, according to a local Christmas Islander, it got to within 10 metres of landing before it was towed out to sea by the RAN.

Sarah 2Dads on the EhBC insisting the pax should have been allowed to come ashore.

The Thompson sub-machine gun mentioned above was apparently a diecast replica.

Pinky the pilot 20th Nov 2015 08:15


The Thompson sub-machine gun mentioned above was apparently a diecast replica.
Most interesting!:hmm: And under current Legislation, here in SA anyway, possession of such replicas is illegal.

May be different in other states because despite John Howard's insistence on "National Uniform Gun Laws" and touting that this was achieved, quite simply it is not the case.:eek:

Here in SA I had to either surrender my collection of Military Semi Auto Rifles or have them permanently de-activated:sad:. I chose the latter.:*

In another State it now appears that I could have simply transferred them to a Collectors Licence.

Worrals in the wilds 20th Nov 2015 10:42


May be different in other states because despite John Howard's insistence on "National Uniform Gun Laws" and touting that this was achieved, quite simply it is not the case.:eek:
The push for national uniform laws on anything commenced in 1901 and has made very few gains since then, with the exception of the Corporations Act 2001 which took about twenty years of wheeling and dealing and produced an act that's the size of the White Pages (remember them?) and even more boring/irrelevant. States will be states. :zzz:

Port Darwin sold to the Chinese!
Well, not really - it's only a ninety-nine year lease. So that's all right then.
Besides, it's only partly a military port.
Yep; Whiskey Tango Foxtrot :ugh:. What's the next move, privatise the ADF and give Serco the contract?:} After all, they've done So Well with the immigration camps.

SOPS 20th Nov 2015 10:52

Why don't we privatise the government.:p

MTOW 20th Nov 2015 21:49

Pinky, it was reported here that replicas are illegal in NSW. It was also alleged that the NSW police, in not acknowledging it was a replica, are beating the incident up to suit an agenda they are pursuing on gun control. (I must say, I have some sympathy for them. From what I've heard from a (recent) ex-cop friend, it's approaching a war zone for the cops in some areas of SW Sydney, with the police seriously out-gunned by their opponents. Some feel it's only a matter of time before we have a squad car brassed up and we're left with two dead cops in the car.)

Meanwhile, I hear Dennis Shanahan on 2UE agreeing that Obama's comments to the WWW regarding the leasing of Port Darwin to the Chinese was "a chiding" - very unusual (and therefore, diplomatically, quite serious) in a first 'meet and greet' with a new leader by a US President at an overseas event.

Turnbull seems to be to be doing everything he said he had to ensure would not happen when proving his case in replacing Abbott. His performance overseas was amateurish at best, and to many eyes not blinded by ideology, cringeworthy.

SOPS 21st Nov 2015 05:43

It's no wonder the far right is becoming more popular
Australian Army chaplains may see 'conquer' removed from badges in push for greater diversity | Daily Mail Online

Hempy 21st Nov 2015 12:37


Originally Posted by SOPS
It's no wonder the far right is becoming more popular

According to whom?

All I see in that article is mention of a Reservist who was removed from the Army for his extremist views, and mention of a Dutch racist. Please do tell how 'extremism' makes things 'popular'?

p.s Google Bernard Gaynor (unfortunate name given his 'leanings'), and Geert Wilders. Nice guys :yuk:


“Defence can confirm it has made a final decision to terminate the service of Army Reserve member Major Bernard Gaynor as a result of conduct that demonstrates repeated behaviour inconsistent with Army and Defence policies,” an ADF spokesperson told the Star Observer.

“In accordance with procedural fairness and the principles of natural justice, Major Gaynor was provided an opportunity to demonstrate why his service should not be terminated.”

Gaynor has had a colourful history as a reservist for the ADF. Along with publicly accusing the ADF of lacking “moral courage” and capitulating to extremist Islam, he has accused Chief of Army Lieutenant General Morrison of being “a slave of Islam” and labelling him a “coward”.

Gaynor has also been a vocal homophobic and transphobic detractor of ADF efforts to promote LGBTI inclusion and equality amongst its members. Most notably, Gaynor led a campaign to stop any ADF involvement with the Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras, something he has likened to child abuse.

“If you then knew that on this excursion [to Mardi Gras] my children would be exposed to nudity, sexually explicit activity and groups promoting sado-masochistic homosexual practices and clad in leather like they were about to begin, you would probably think about calling in the child protection agency,” Gaynor said on his website.

At ease 21st Nov 2015 13:03

Anyone who criticises General Morrison's social engineering policies is fine by me.

People like Gaynor(Australian Liberty Alliance) WILL be getting my vote in the Senate.

Hempy 21st Nov 2015 14:05


Originally Posted by At ease
Anyone who criticises General Morrison's social engineering policies is fine by me.

People like Gaynor(Australian Liberty Alliance) WILL be getting my vote in the Senate.

And if you'd been born in Syria/Iraq/Lebanon/Afghanistan you'd be sporting a C4 vest by now.

Fkn zealots, the enemy of the worlds peace. You're no different than they are.

Hempy 21st Nov 2015 14:29

This thread has really opened my eyes as to how many sick minded individuals live amongst us.

Thank goodness that my real life tends to show me that the closed minded individuals who post here are in the vast minority, and are an ageing, dying breed.

The world will be a better place when the 'older' generation (you know who you are) has passed. You've done nothing, too young (or shirked) Vietnam, too old for the Middle East.

No one will mourn your generation.

All mouth, yet weak as p1ss

porch monkey 21st Nov 2015 21:20

And your rant has just disclosed the same closed mindedness that you rail against. Well done.

prospector 21st Nov 2015 21:32

Had a big night on products of your user name?, or perhaps with a rant like that you have run out of supplies of said hemp.

parabellum 21st Nov 2015 21:33

Be interesting to know just which generation you are talking about Hempy.
I signed up in 1959 and at that time Malay and Borneo were going full strength, Korea having only recently stopped. Cyprus was boiling nicely as was Aden and the Yemen then in 1969 Vietnam for Australia and Northern Ireland for the UK blew up again and with only a small break it was time for the Falkland Islands followed by the former Yugoslavia erupting, followed by the Iraq war and aftermath and then Afghanistan, think that just about covers it, with the exception of the many, many SF operations that forces from all commonwealth countries have taken part in at various times, so, where is this generation that is all mouth and 'weak as piss'?


Or could that just be you Hempy?


(Wilders isn't a racist either, it's the radical followers of a religion that he preaches against, not a race).

Pinky the pilot 23rd Nov 2015 08:46


Be interesting to know just which generation you are talking about Hempy.
Thank you parabellum. Much my thoughts as well.

For what it's worth; Back in the mid 70's I was very much at a loose end. Bugger all qualifications in anything, always thought of joining the RAAF but upon trying to do so was knocked back due to the fact I wore glasses. And was informed that the Navy would not take me either but I might have had a chance with the Army.

To my later regret I didn't try for the Army. I was later told that I still might have had problems getting in there as well!:eek:

About 10 years later I earned a CPL. My mind still boggles at that!:ooh:

But I will always regret that I was not able to join one of the Services as I have a sneaking suspicion that being able to do so just might have helped me grow up a little earlier, and faster!



And for the first time I have ever been 'personal' on this site; (Apologies to Mods in advance)


No one will mourn your generation.

All mouth, yet weak as p1ss
Yes Hempy; With absolutely no respect implied or intended whatsoever, but it is my opinion that your abovementioned quote sums you up quite well!:*

Hempy 23rd Nov 2015 09:05

So, how many of you turned up in Melton on the weekend for the 'Reclaim Australia' rally?

Or are you just keyboard b̶i̶g̶o̶t̶ warriors?

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/pr...E=w512-h287-nc

megan 23rd Nov 2015 09:19

Hempy, I don't know if you were over there as part of the RAAF, or lumping a pack and rifle with the grunts. Either way old son, I,we, respect your service, but I think you need some help. It's a road I've travelled, and so understand. Go get help, it's out there.

Hempy 23rd Nov 2015 10:57

Why, because my eyes were opened? Thanks for the concern, but I'm fine tyvm.

All any serviceman (person) can ask is that if the Government of the day puts their lives at risk, they do so for a very good reason. Afghanistan was not, nor was Iraq. More and more I feel like we were all simply pawns in the US game, and that's not acceptable.

I understand that we need to follow US national 'interest' for our own well being. If 300 million Indos decide to march south one day we might need some help..

Having said that, after the wall came down in 1989 (I was still a 'baby'), the US needed any enemy to keep their economy alive, so they created one. And in doing so, now we really have one. Good job :ok:

'One man's freedom fighter is another mans terrorist'. Tell me how you'd feel if say the Chinese, for example, decided tomorrow that they didn't like Malcolm Turnbull's way of doing things and decided to bomb the shit out of your neighbourhood, in the process killing you parents, your children, your spouse (collateral damage)? You reckon you'd just say 'fair enough Chairman Xi, he was baaad anyway'?

We created the mess, and now we need to be thoughtful about how we deal with it. If that's 'huggy fluffy' so be it, but the option is genocide.

Yes Daish is an abomination. I'd have no problems with personally dispatching every one of them. But if you claim 'all Muslims are terrorists' you are either a simple minded redneck or an out and out bigot. Either way, begone, or we'll be as bad as Daish are.


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