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Hempy 9th Nov 2015 07:12

It's a harsh state of affairs when even the far right wing neandertha....voters don't have anyone to vote for anymore. Pickering, Bolt, Hadley etc must be having a fkn meltdown. It must be hard to accept that they belong to a fringe minority group, lets hope the majority don't get all 'if you don't like it fk off somewhere else' on them..

MTOW 9th Nov 2015 07:23

hemps, I'll quite proudly admit to belonging to that particular minority group, with all the sobriquets you may wish to add to it. And yes, you're quite right. We sorely lack a leader. Malcolm Turnleft, aptly nicknamed 'WWW', certainly is not that man.

The comments following this article are interesting.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/11/su...e-sympathizers

But not to worry. All those comments come from a **** minority group.

Worrals in the wilds 9th Nov 2015 08:14


Worrals - My reason for suggesting a DD might happen is because by the next scheduled general election Turnbull may have lost a lot of his popularity with the voting public simply because he is doing very little of substance and when he does start doing something it and he may not be so popular!
I dunno. There's a school of thought that says doing nothing of substance is the way to win elections. :( MTOW, love WWW BTW :E (sorry that reads like a NOTAM :}).

I agree, Eddie. But just to muddy the waters even further, in Queensland there was the rather extraordinary, some would say unique, Alan Jones factor.
And it was extraordinary. That said, it was further proof that Newman annoyed absolutely everyone, including a lot of centre right types. I can't recall a more unpopular Queensland MP, including Sir Joh and Anna Bligh. Being less popular than either of those two combined is also extraordinary and arguably puts him into the venereal disease category, but Newman managed it. Personally I think Abbott had the same effect, though it was more diluted by him being federal rather than state. IME the average person generally gets more hot under the collar about state issues, hears more 'behind the scenes' gossip about the government's dysfunctionality and is more likely to change their vote accordingly.

...the ALP won, be careful what you wish for.
Exactly. Abbott was easily the ALP's best asset, and I think they knew that. From a partisan perspective, the best thing for the ALP would have been for the Coalition to contest the next election with Abbott and Hockey at the helm. From a non-partisan perspective, I think Turnbull is a far better leader, though time will tell. Looking at the polls (which are always pretty rubbery) I'm not the only person who thinks that.

Pinky the pilot 9th Nov 2015 08:47


I can't recall a more unpopular Queensland MP, including Sir Joh
Struth, Worrals;:eek: Way back in another lifetime I worked on a Seismic Survey Crew in the Qld Far SW/Far NE of SA and most of the crew were Queenslanders. :ooh:

Virtually to a Man, they seemingly worshipped not only Sir Joh but almost the ground he walked on!!:eek::ooh::ooh:

The standing joke at the time; said not entirely without cynicism,:hmm: was that the only reason Queensland did not have daylight saving time was the fact that the Sun shone out of Sir Joh's arse and that he was not getting out of bed an hour earlier for anyone!!:D:}:=

And I still clearly remember the time one of the Drillers (Les) on our crew came back from leave and told us that one Sunday whilst he was on his leave break he was taking his 6 yr old Nephew for a drive near the Bjelke-Petersen homestead. They stopped right outside Sir Joh's driveway and Les was explaining to his Nephew that 'This house is owned by the Premier, Sir Joh...' when who should come down the driveway to get the mail and the morning papers but the Man himself!:eek:

Les told us that Sir Joh said 'Good Morning' and asked what they were doing, and Les explained that they were just out for a Morning drive and happened to find themselves there so he was telling his Nephew who lived there.

Sir Joh's response was that 'Lady Flo has put the kettle on for morning tea and just baked a batch of Pumpkin Scones' so Les and his Nephew had better come up to the house and join them for Morning Tea.:ooh:

The Man had his faults; (Don't we all!!:}) but try as I might, I simply cannot imagine any of the current crop of Australian Politicians doing what Sir Joh Bjelke Petersen did for Les and his Nephew on that day!:=

John Eacott 9th Nov 2015 09:17

Pinky,

Similar story except I was driving a helicopter and lobbed into his back yard ;)

Tea and scones in the lounge, a very Australian house with no pretensions and no unnecessary housekeeping but a welcoming and genuine couple.

Fubaar 9th Nov 2015 09:55

On another site, there's a report saying that after a survey of the recent uninvited immigrants into Europe, almost one in four said they were sympathetic to some degree to ISIS. That's a large number given the numbers arriving daily.

One respondent said that if someone gave you a bag of M&Ms and said that one in a hundred of the M&Ms in the bag was poisoned, you'd be highly unlikely to try even a single M&M from that bag. But Europe - and thanks to Mr Dutton and his leader, Australia as well - is merrily taking on every 'M&M' in the immigrant bag. And we can't be discriminatory, so Political Correctness demands that, rather than take the 'unpoisoned (non-Muslim, persecuted minorities), we must take at least half (and I suspect a far higher proportion than half) of the 'poisoned M&Ms' - Muslims.

Worrals in the wilds 9th Nov 2015 10:09


Struth, Worrals;:eek: Way back in another lifetime I worked on a Seismic Survey Crew in the Qld Far SW/Far NE of SA
Was that during the first or the second time John Farnham was in the charts? ;);):}

'This house is owned by the Premier, Sir Joh...' when who should come down the driveway to get the mail and the morning papers but the Man himself!:eek:
For sure. He also had his home phone number listed in the white pages :cool:. That said, even in his heyday he was intensely polarising and in later years he wasn't quite so popular. Queensland moved on (slightly :}), but JBP didn't. Newman never achieved such likeablity; he was even more polarising but without the popular touch Sir Joh maintained. He certainly wouldn't have welcomed anyone at his front door, including most of his Cabinet. :suspect: Thinking about it, that was a key difference between Sir Joh and the other two idiots. He was always happy to saddle up, meet people and put forward his POV. For that matter, so was Beattie.

According to those who know Joh always listened to his ministers and advisers, even when he didn't want to (and even when they had to be a bit...forceful :E). That was another key factor in his success. Also according to those who know (not necessarily the same people, but Brisbane's a small place with a limited number of people who talk politics and sooner or later they all tend to end up in the same Smoking Section :suspect::}), neither Newman nor Bligh listened to any bastard, and as a result they came to a sticky end. :ouch:

On reflection, I'll strike JBP from the list and just stick with Bligh. Newman was at least as unpopular as Bligh and like Bligh, managed to alienate his own supporters by refusing to listen to them, prefering to surround himself with a small circle of yes-people and cronies. Abbott seemed to be just as bad wrt talking to actual people, also preferring to hide under his yes-people and likewise came to a sticky end. The difference is that in Abbott's case, the party rolled him before the electorate did.

Not being a member I'll never know (and there are some things even drunken smokers don't talk about :suspect:), but I'd guess that the federal Libs did a fair bit of soul searching before rolling their PM; it's completely against their party principles. For all that and putting my own partisan views to one side (darn, Abott's gone, help us Obi Wan, he was our only hope :uhoh:), to my mind they made the correct decision, both for the Coalition and for the government. Like Newman and Bligh, Abbott was...unstable. Unnaproachable. A loose cannon coming out with crazy, random stuff leaving the cabinet to front press conferences gasping for air. Turnbull's a deadset spiv, a media tart and carries a free set of steak knives (don't turn your back), but at least he's sane. At least he won't knight anyone or declare war on Syria.

Ethel the Aardvark 9th Nov 2015 10:45

This childish name calling of our current illustrious leader really speaks volumes about the perpetrators.:O
I seem to remember some of the preppers here threatened to move to New Zealand if Malcolm became El Primo. Hobbiton is furnished and waiting your arrival

parabellum 9th Nov 2015 11:27

I find it interesting that Tony Abbott was ditched in favour of a lawyer and a banker, doesn't that, in itself, speak volumes?

Hempy 9th Nov 2015 12:49

Lotsa all talk, no action here. From our right wing fringe? Who woulda thunk it!!!

Hempy 9th Nov 2015 12:55

[url]The Australian Far Right is more loony than anyone Left on planet Earth. Even us Americans. [/Huffingtonpost.com/url]

SOPS 9th Nov 2015 22:27

Now this is hilarious. Their own countries are currently been overrun with hundreds of thousands of invaders, and they stand in the UN and critise Australia's policies.

Australia's asylum seeker policies heavily criticised at UN Human Rights Council review - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Pinky the pilot 10th Nov 2015 01:34


Was that during the first or the second time John Farnham was in the charts?
Ooohhh Worrals; What a terrible thing to say...!!:p:D

Dunno really; when was he in the charts?:confused:


Australia's asylum seeker policies heavily criticised at UN Human Rights Council review - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Like being given 20 lashes with a wet piece of Spaghetti, I should think.

Ethel the Aardvark 10th Nov 2015 12:49

My crystal ball still hot from predicting the demise of Tony whats his name is hinting that we may have a new imigration minister before years end.

Eddie Dean 10th Nov 2015 18:21

Would agree with that prediction, Ethel.
He isn't a good media performer, and that is the most important factor today.

Australia is to a large extent, insulated from the refugee influx into Europe.
Our policy works because of the relatively small number of potential arrivals,and the huge sea barrier to the somewhat primitive vessels used.

What works for Australia would require additional efforts to be effective in Southern Europe. A fence maybe their only answer.

reynoldsno1 11th Nov 2015 21:38

I seem to remember some of the preppers here threatened to move to New Zealand if Malcolm became El Primo.

Bjelke-Petersen was born in Dannevirke in the southern Hawke's Bay region of New Zealand

There seems to be a trend here ...

Flying Binghi 11th Nov 2015 22:28


via RJM #19094:
Ha, Binghi. Not in Australia you can't. You're not even allowed to piss in one.
QLD must be different then..:)

Though, I seems to remember a lot of ski boats whilst paxing a landing on a dam just North of Melbourne...




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Flying Binghi 11th Nov 2015 22:44


via Ethal the Aardvark
This childish name calling of our current illustrious leader really speaks volumes about the perpetrators...
Hmmm... perhaps we should have a look-see back through some of the anti Abbott videos and comments posted here by the Abbott hating crew..:hmm:


On other matters...

Imagine if turnBull had been Prime Minister instead of Abbott. Where would our illegal immigration situation be now... the boat owning Indonesian fishermen would have loved it as none of them would be fishing now, they would have become well paid Uber immigration freighting specialists by now..:hmm:

I don't think many people really comprehend the major disaster that Prime Minister Abbott averted by having a back bone and standing up for the interests of the average Australian.




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Flying Binghi 14th Nov 2015 02:51

Lookin like an interesting Bolt Report tomorrow...:)

My guest: former Prime Minister Tony Abbott in his first television interview. The topic: fighting the jihadist threat.

The panel: The Australian’s Janet Albrechtsen and Dan Tehan, chairman of Parliament’s intelligence and security committee.


http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/a...w_november_15/



...and could it be I've finally spanked them turnBull minions into submission..:cool:





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Ken Borough 14th Nov 2015 04:15


Lookin like an interesting Bolt Report tomorrow
Erm. How many will waste any time listening to these right wing warriors to whom very few listen? One of these talking heads is on a panel that vets ABC Board appointments. So much for balance, objectivity etc. :E


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