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Flying Binghi 2nd Nov 2015 01:00


via Zapatas Blood #19070:
“Victim of islamic terrorism Curtis Cheng is laid to rest and turnbull is....”

Interested to know what exactly made this a terrorist attack versus a . . . .crime?
One and the same is it not ?




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Flying Binghi 2nd Nov 2015 01:05

After spending umpteen billions of dollars on idiotic desalinisation plants it now looks like it can be done at half the cost..:hmm:

"...a team at the University of Alexandria figured out a way to address their own country’s freshwater concerns with a new process that uses less than half the power of traditional desalination methods. Their new technique was published this week in a paper in the journal Water Science & Technology..."

How To Desalinise Water Using Half The Energy Of Traditional Methods | Gizmodo Australia




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chuboy 2nd Nov 2015 02:08


Originally Posted by Flying Binghi (Post 9165645)
One and the same is it not ?

It's not :ugh:

Committing an act of terror is a crime.

Taking an orange from the supermarket without paying for it is a crime but not an act of terror.

The distinction is not that hard to grasp, is it :confused:


After spending umpteen billions of dollars on idiotic desalinisation plants it now looks like it can be done at half the cost.. :hmm:
If it makes you feel any better, building a plant with the new technology would still cost about the same since the majority of the cost seems to be civil works and government project management overheads, it's only the operating cost that is cheaper. Which is irrelevant because the plants are never turned on anyway right :ok:

Flying Binghi 2nd Nov 2015 04:07


via chuboy:
Committing an act of terror is a crime.

Taking an orange from the supermarket without paying for it is a crime but not an act of terror.

The distinction is not that hard to grasp, is it
You are correct chuboy. And I didn't properly answer the meaning of Zapatas Blood's post either.

:ouch:




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ramble on 2nd Nov 2015 20:26

Un-Australian

These feckless people are what is un-Australian

Muslim children should not be forced to sing national anthem, says Hizb ut-Tahrir

Bring back National Service and develop some sense of national pride.
Singapore is a great example.

Saltie 2nd Nov 2015 20:50

Mal has actually done something - and something I at least approve of. (How long has it taken him? Five, or is it six weeks.) He's canned knights and dames, one of Tony Abbott's more high profile 'missteps'.

The fact that Tony Abbott could have thought for one moment that this was a good idea put serious doubt about his connection with the man on the street, and so this was a pretty safe first move by Turnbull.

Why is that I suspect that some of the moves he'll make over the next few months might not meet with similar approval from people like me (of conservative leanings)?

chuboy 2nd Nov 2015 22:01

Honestly I think Tony sealed his fate with that captain's call. Knighting Prince Phillip on Australia Day would have to have been the equivalent of the Titanic hitting the iceberg.

Political commentator yesterday noted that Malcolm's new and improved government is now having a "conversation" about raising the GST, something which will raise a lot of much needed revenue and which can fund tax cuts in other areas. They contended that Tony could never have provoked such a discussion, even if he wanted to, and I have to say I agree.

Things have been running unusually smoothly since MT took the helm actually. I think citizens (and journalists) have gotten used to opening the news every morning and reading what moronic idea or statement Tony came up with today. It's so very refreshing.

parabellum 2nd Nov 2015 22:07

I am wondering if, whilst his popularity is high, Turnbull isn't planning on engineering a dispute with the opposition that gives him an excuse for a DD election? GST could be the trigger, Shorten has already said that he and his party won't support a raise in the rate.


There again, Marshmallow Malcolm is just as likely to put something on the table one minute and remove it the next, if he thinks he could get a bloody nose.

MTOW 2nd Nov 2015 22:27

Para, there's a huge sting in the tail if a DD is called - senators need only half as many votes as they would in a normal (staggered for the senate) election to gain or retain their seat. So it gives an enormous advantage to the micro parties and the likes of SHY. If Mal did as you suggested, we could end up with a dozen Ricky Muirs and SHY might get to stay even without Cloive's preferences.

Tony Abbott made a number of very poor decisions during his time as PM. (I agree that the knights and dames was up there among the most silly.) His really big mistake was not to have introduced major reforms of the electoral system immediately after gaining power, including mandatory photo ID and a national, computerised data base to prevent multiple voting, which is far more widespread than the AEC lets on, particularly in marginal electorates. The influx of shonky "residents" (who boasted later on social media that they were not) into Sophie Mirabella's electorate of Indi was just one example.

chuboy 2nd Nov 2015 22:35


Originally Posted by parabellum (Post 9166767)
I am wondering if, whilst his popularity is high, Turnbull isn't planning on engineering a dispute with the opposition that gives him an excuse for a DD election? GST could be the trigger, Shorten has already said that he and his party won't support a raise in the rate.

Did he say that since Tony was kicked out? The last thing Shorten needs to do is appear obstructionist, he is unpopular enough as it is. People like Turnbull because is getting on with it and making sensible things happen. As soon as Shorten steps in his way, the populace is going to lose their patience with him.

Flying Binghi 3rd Nov 2015 00:07


via chuboy:
...building a plant with the new technology would still cost about the same since the majority of the cost seems to be civil works and government project management overheads, it's only the operating cost that is cheaper. Which is irrelevant because the plants are never turned on anyway right...
Oh... read the research have we..:hmm:

Building a new dam would have been the common sense thing to do. At least when a new dam sits idle the public can go sailing, skiing, fishing, etc, on it. Even land an float plane on it. Or ya can just sit beside and enjoy all the bird life attracted to the new dam..:)

A seawater treatment facility on the other hand is purely an ugly very expensive blot on the landscape that Sea gulls shite on..:hmm:




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chuboy 3rd Nov 2015 00:26

Except the sea will never run dry :)

Desal plants are like insurance, you think they're a waste of money until they save your backside

At ease 3rd Nov 2015 00:35


Mal has actually done something - and something I at least approve of. (How long has it taken him? Five, or is it six weeks.) He's canned knights and dames, one of Tony Abbott's more high profile 'missteps'.

The fact that Tony Abbott could have thought for one moment that this was a good idea put serious doubt about his connection with the man on the street, and so this was a pretty safe first move by Turnbull.

Why is that I suspect that some of the moves he'll make over the next few months might not meet with similar approval from people like me (of conservative leanings)?
This man on the street was quite happy with the honours system as it was.

Marshmallow Mal has just made another, planned long ago, step along the Social Engineering Superhighway - destination "Republic".

He lost my vote for good quite a few weeks ago.

Julie Bishop's comments concerning homosexual marriage today is just the icing on the cake.

This current government was not elected on such policies.

If she somehow got "the chop" I would be quite happy.

Such is my dislike as to the direction our new leadership is headed has made sure that I will join this party:

http://www.australianlibertyalliance.org.au/

RJM 3rd Nov 2015 03:16


People like Turnbull because is getting on with it and making sensible things happen.
I'm not so sure he has done much, chuboy. He's said a lot, in a long-winded way, but he hasn't actually done much that's substantive. He's picked the lowest hanging fruit by axing the pseudo-imperial honours. That's a minor move, but full of the symbolism so valued by the Left. Other than that action, Turnbull hasn't done much but talk. And he has a mid-year financial statement looming in December.

He's popular with the Left including the media, alright. They don't think he's much of a threat, and the intellectual Left see him as like-minded. He's even stopped bashing the ABC!

But his political scores so far have been announcements of policies developed by Abbott's crew. I'm waiting for him to do more than talk sweetly. Like many other conservative leaning voters, I'm waiting with increasing impatience for him to actually do something more than talk.

RJM 3rd Nov 2015 03:18


At least when a new dam sits idle the public can go sailing, skiing, fishing, etc, on it. Even land an float plane on it.
Ha, Binghi. Not in Australia you can't. You're not even allowed to piss in one.

Wiley 3rd Nov 2015 05:57

chuboy, I have to agree with RJM. Turnbull has been playing it very safe in talking (oh, how he loves to talk) but until this move on dropping the knights and dames - (a total no risk move) - he hasn't actually done a damned thing since usurping the prime ministership. Some may think 'usurp' is too strong a word. I don't. I think he'll be a very disappointing Prime Minister, (except perhaps for the Left?), in much the same way as Kevin Rudd turned out to be.

Although on the sheer annoying scale, I must give him some credit - he's not even on the same page as Rudd.

Eddie Dean 3rd Nov 2015 11:46

The obvious is that the status quo is being achieved without some noticing.

Pinky the pilot 3rd Nov 2015 22:03


The obvious is that the status quo is being achieved without some noticing.
The way most Politicians would prefer to get the more unpalatable (read controversial?) :confused: things done!

Wiley 4th Nov 2015 02:04


The obvious is that the status quo is being achieved without some noticing.
Eddie, could you try parsing that sentence and explaining to this thick old mind WTF it means? Can I assume you're trying to say that Mal is quietly beavering away, achieving much without anyone here noticing what he's achieving?

parabellum 4th Nov 2015 05:42

Thanks for that MTOW, learn something new every day! :)


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