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Hempy 12th Oct 2015 05:58


Originally Posted by parabellum
Think about it Ethel, just about all those projects were given birth under Abbott's government

Umm you probably should do some research before making statements like that. Otherwise people might think that you are full of s:mad:t

chuboy 12th Oct 2015 06:08


Originally Posted by parabellum (Post 9144801)
Every attempt was thwarted in the Senate, it just isn't that easy to turn a multi billion $ deficit back into a surplus and I'm sorry to hear that scrapping the carbon tax, the minerals tax and stopping the boats etc. don't count for anything, I think they are quite significant.

My apologies, I had forgotten Tony Abbott was the only person in Australian political history to ever have to deal with a senate! All is forgiven, how could we expect the leader of our country to negotiate for the sake of progress?

I agree putting a stop to the drownings was a good thing that Tony achieved, but at what cost? Children being sexually abused, people literally rotting away in detention camps because we don't want to encourage any more to come. Far from our proudest moment.

As for the mining/carbon tax. Well I hardly even noticed the difference. The carbon tax "refund" we all got was dwarfed by yet another yearly increase in electricity supply costs (NOT generation costs due to renewables but gold-plated poles and wires thanks to the mistakes of a certain government that deregulated the network). The mining tax? Take it or leave it, they are still all hurting now anyway, profits downgraded, layoffs, closing mines. With or without the tax we would have been no better off fiscally.

parabellum 12th Oct 2015 08:13


Umm you probably should do some research before making statements like that. Otherwise people might think that you are full of shttp://www.pprune.org/images/smilies/censored.gift
This from the poster who said he had never been banned because he made a point of never being abusive! And that is on top of a highly abusive post a few months ago, directed at me, about older people not being qualified to make comments on certain posts and many, many more snide remarks.

And no, Turnbull did not commission the NBN satellite;

The NBN satellite Malcolm Turnbull never wanted prepares for liftoff


"Umm you probably should do some research before making statements like that"

Flying Binghi 12th Oct 2015 09:02


via chuboy #19010:
...By contrast, today PM Turnbull announced federal funding would be made available for the Gold Coast Light Rail Stage 2 construction. We will now have light rail connections in place for the Commonwealth Games and into the future. What a refreshing change from Mr No's policy of... "no funding for you". 1000 jobs created in a stagnant economy, long lasting (public transport) infrastructure for a growing city...
So banker boy turnbull will give TAXPAYERS money to fund a technology of Queen Victoria's era. Brilliant..:hmm:

Computer drive cars are here and NOW and will destroy public transport and its associated monolithic concrete structures in a few short years. What a collosal waste of money, and he knows it...

"...We have to recognise that the disruption that we see driven by technology, the volatility in change is our friend if we are agile and smart enough to take advantage of it..."

Looks like the ACCC didn?t get the memo | Catallaxy Files





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chuboy 12th Oct 2015 10:06


Originally Posted by Flying Binghi (Post 9144964)
So banker boy turnbull will give TAXPAYERS money to fund a technology of Queen Victoria's era. Brilliant..:hmm:

Computer drive cars are here and NOW and will destroy public transport and its associated monolithic concrete structures in a few short years. What a collosal waste of money, and he knows it...

"...We have to recognise that the disruption that we see driven by technology, the volatility in change is our friend if we are agile and smart enough to take advantage of it..."

Looks like the ACCC didn?t get the memo | Catallaxy Files
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Good grief. Whatever will you come out with next? (You realise the automobile is not exactly a recent invention don't you?)

Autonomous vehicles are not going to make public transport obsolete. What, you think the great metropoli of the world are suddenly going to be trafficable just because the car has a driver of its own? The fact that 100000s of people are trying to converge on one central location at the same time is not relevant in the slightest?

If nothing else, autonomous vehicle technology will give us automated buses and trains. But it can never hope to replace them. Mass transit is fundamentally more efficient than personal vehicles. As energy becomes more expensive this will only become more important.

Ethel the Aardvark 12th Oct 2015 10:07

has anyone noticed how the weather has become more warm and pleasant since Malcolm has take the helm. is there no end too his golden touch!!

Worrals in the wilds 12th Oct 2015 11:08


Have to agree Pinky. They got their wet dream. He is gone. But still the continue to stick the knife in. For the life of me, I can't work out why.
Because that's the game! :E:}

...attempts to continue to stick the knife into Tony Abbott makes me think that he was and still is a threat to Labor and their ideologies!:=
Yeah nah. Abbott was federal Labor's greatest asset, and now he's gone :{:}. Damned shame, really, he was making it easy. Now Labor has to contend with an astute pollie that the general populace seem to like, and Shorten has some work ahead of him. :ooh: Trust me, Labor would have been very happy to see Abbott continue as PM.

Turnbull? WTF knows. I think the electorate's mood is currently wait, watch and decide. Talking 'round the campfire/ lunchroom, I don't think that Turnbull is as much of a People's Messiah as either he or the party would like to believe. That said, he's not as generally hated as Abbott was, and he does have a better way of putting things.

My 91 year old mother keeps saying that she has seen and lived through the best of Australia in an earlier time and that it won't return.
I believe she is correct and displays a life full of hard earned wisdom.
And if God/the Fates give us all 91 years, given time we'll be saying exactly the same thing, and be similarly ignored by our ungrateful offspring. :cool:
As Ned Kelly said, such is life. :}

Pinky the pilot 12th Oct 2015 11:18


And if God/the Fates give us all 91 years, given time we'll be saying exactly the same thing, and be similarly ignored by our ungrateful offspring.
As Ned Kelly said, such is life.
Worrals; You may indeed have quite a valid point!:ok:

Dinner sometime?:D Place of your choice.:E I pick up the tab for the booze!:}:ooh:

Flying Binghi 12th Oct 2015 11:29


via chuboy:
Good grief. Whatever will you come out with next? (You realise the automobile is not exactly a recent invention don't you?)

Autonomous vehicles are not going to make public transport obsolete. What, you think the great metropoli of the world are suddenly going to be trafficable just because the car has a driver of its own? The fact that 100000s of people are trying to converge on one central location at the same time is not relevant in the slightest?

If nothing else, autonomous vehicle technology will give us automated buses and trains. But it can never hope to replace them. Mass transit is fundamentally more efficient than personal vehicles. As energy becomes more expensive this will only become more important.
I think I'll frame that and put it on my wall..:)




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Hempy 12th Oct 2015 11:34


Originally Posted by parabellum

Originally Posted by Ethel the Aardvark
only been in the job a couple of weeks and he is sorting out the city's light rail problems, launched an nbn satellite, signed off on a new army vehicle contract, sorted out the submarine debacle

Think about it Ethel, just about all those projects were given birth under Abbott's government

NONE of those projects were given birth under Abbott's government!! To claim they were is complete BS.

chuboy 12th Oct 2015 11:49

Be my guest fb, if that's all you need to improve the decor of your place who I am to object?

SOPS 13th Oct 2015 11:35

Interesting article in the Australian today. It quotes a study, commissioned by the Gillard government, that looked at 8500 entrants under the humanitarian resettlement program. It found that after 5 years, 6 out of 10 migrants had failed to get a job. 85% received welfare. Fewer than 1 in 10 Iraqis or Afghans had work. 94 in every 100 were on welfare.

So as I have said before. Some ( not all ) come here, suck off our welfare and work out ways to kill us.

Flying Binghi 13th Oct 2015 22:21


via SOPS:
...work out ways to kill us.
You've got it all wrong SOPS. There has only been one little incident...

"...NSW federal Liberal MP Fiona Scott was interviewed by Sky News about the Islamic terrorist attack in Parramatta that killed police employee Curtis Cheng. During her interview, Scott said this:

We’ve had a hundred years, more than a century of relationships with our Islamic communities where it’s lived quite peacefully, and one little incident over 100 years has been what we have had..."


Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian




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SOPS 13th Oct 2015 23:21

Why do politicians tie themselves in knots trying to avoid saying what we all know is true?

At ease 13th Oct 2015 23:24

An astute NSW politician should be aware of the reasons behind the forming of the NSW Middle East Organised Crime Squad..... or the recent antics of Auburn Council and one of it's councilors.....to name just two examples.

Oh wait, her excuse must be that she is a federal polly. :ugh:

criticalmass 14th Oct 2015 00:02

Politicians have an inherent dread of the truth, because it can't be manipulated, unlike lies, which can (Josef Goebbels was the undisputed master of this, although these days he has some stiff competition).

I am beginning to wonder what odds could I get with Ladbrokes on which Australian politician will be the first to convert to Islam? A two-horse race between Sarah Hanson-Young and Malcolm Turnbull, anyone?

Bill Shorten can safely be left out of speculation because he is already a member of a fanatical religious cult - the Union Movement.

A plague on all politicians!

Flying Binghi 14th Oct 2015 00:46

Warwick Hughes is getting impatient...

The ABC reports – Geert Wilders’ visa delay ‘an assault on freedom of speech’, says new anti-Islam party Australian Liberty Alliance – Most of those right of centre Australian voters who are interested will have heard of Geert Wilders by now and will not need him to convince them to vote for the Australian Liberty Alliance (ALA). Just now with the coronation of Malcolm Turnbull and assorted Jihadis plying their trade in Australia the ALA has an avalanche of circumstances working in its favour. Sooner they launch the better.

So the Australian Govt is slow to issue Geert Wilders a visa ? the Australian Liberty Alliance should stand on its own two feet and launch the party ASAP | Errors in IPCC climate science




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chuboy 14th Oct 2015 00:55


Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 9146234)
Interesting article in the Australian today. It quotes a study, commissioned by the Gillard government, that looked at 8500 entrants under the humanitarian resettlement program. It found that after 5 years, 6 out of 10 migrants had failed to get a job. 85% received welfare. Fewer than 1 in 10 Iraqis or Afghans had work. 94 in every 100 were on welfare.

So as I have said before. Some ( not all ) come here, suck off our welfare and work out ways to kill us.

Go on SOPS, tell us what some (not all) of the home grown Aussies do with their spare time while you're at it!

Dealing meth?
Robbing petrol stations?
Beating their wives and children?

;)

But honestly, I do see you what you're trying to say with those stats. While they made you feel angry and resentful, they only made me feel a bit sad. I really doubt that 85% would wholly prefer to be on welfare than working in the community. Much the same as all welfare recipients.

Why don't we have an environment where people who want to work can do so?

Now that I think of it, are asylum seekers even allowed to work or is that not permitted under their visa conditions? :confused:

Clare Prop 14th Oct 2015 01:27

The humanitarium resettlement program not the same as a bridging visa for people who came on boats, where they can't work or get centrelink. More info here

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/our-w...asylum-seekers

parabellum 14th Oct 2015 03:40


I really doubt that 85% would wholly prefer to be on welfare than working in the community.
chuboy - I seriously doubt that you have much experience of working or living in the Middle East?


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