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david1300 3rd Jun 2014 09:26


Originally Posted by alisoncc (Post 8505117)
david1300, PM me your phone number and I will walk you through this magical facility run by Google than enables anyone, and I mean anyone, to find things on the Internet. Even the thick sh*ts.

Whoever the 'thick sh*ts' are that you refer to, good luck with your reeducation process:p. As for me, as long as you post assertions without quoted sources or references I'll ignore them as the loony ratings of a wannabe leftist social reformer.

Seeing as you have now quoted sources - thank you - by what criteria do you categorise Access Ministeries as an 'evangelical sect'?

500N 3rd Jun 2014 09:30

Bugged

I agree re name changing.

Worrals in the wilds 3rd Jun 2014 09:42


I read the Age on Sunday...it's a better laugh than the Beano ever was, especially the 'readers letters'.
Same with Brisbane's Sunday Mail readers' letters. Lots of foaming at the mouth...

Something I find very disturbing is the way the lefties on this forum change the names of people and organisations. For example we have UKIP being changed to UKRAP, Abbott being changed to Abbottomy, Blabbot, Daily Mail to Daily Fail. and others. This does nothing to enhance your case and makes your posts appear juvenile.
I don't find it disturbing, merely irritating :bored:. It's as irritating as the right wing 101 response to any criticism; laugh, belittle and dismiss the person making the criticism by calling them an idiot or a child. Both type of responses are boring and add little to the debate, but they're both easy and newsworthy.

Some chaplains are good, some are bad and most are average. Likewise councillors. One of my friends pulled her child out of his state school's chaplain programme after he came home and told his parents they'd all go to hell if they didn't convert, because the chaplian said so. Other friends are positive about the chaplains at their kids' state schools, so I guess it depends on the circumstances. Personally I feel that if people want their children to have a religious education they should send them to a religious school or to additional classes on Sundays. The state school system is supposed to be non religious and provide education, not religious instruction. Given the current Australian rates of obesity/inactivity I think it would be better to spend that money on providing sport and physical activities to students, and maybe some basic cooking classes.

Everyone loves bagging out councillors, but as a person who went to a religious school and spent twelve fairly miserable years being bullied by lay-teachers (the nuns were actually pretty decent :cool:) because of an undiagnosed psych issue I'm a bit more ambivalent. I wasn't the only one by a long shot (at least 10% of my senior class had eating disorders and the anxiety rates were higher again) and IMO many of us could have benefited if there had been a decent councillor or psychologist available.

500N 3rd Jun 2014 09:48

Worrals

How do you equate counsellor to psychologist ?

I know they often do the same or similar course but how many counsellors are actually qualified psychs ?

alisoncc 3rd Jun 2014 09:56


As for me, as long as you post assertions without quoted sources or references I'll ignore them as the loony ratings of a wannabe leftist social reformer.

Seeing as you have now quoted sources - thank you - by what criteria do you categorise Access Ministeries as an 'evangelical sect'?
So david1300 anything written by contributors here is to be ignored unless they quote some moronic journalist, newspaper editorial or some idiots blog page. How very quaint. Wonder why you bother to even frequent these pages. But you are most probably of the Google generation. If you can't Google it, it aint so. Quite sad really.

Worrals in the wilds 3rd Jun 2014 10:06


I know they often do the same or similar course but how many counsellors are actually qualified psychs ?
It would have been better than nothing. :(
Counsellors and chaplains are probably in the same strata; some good, some bad. However, the current mood on here seems to be chaplains, yay and counsellors, bad. Given that they have a similar level of training I think that's unfair.

A decent counsellor should be able to identify a student that needs further assistance and refer them to a psych if required. So should a decent chaplain, but does that happen (yes, sometimes) or does the student get referred to the Bible so they can refine their guilt, anger and confusion? :confused:

Apparently there's no room in the budget for science, pensioners, uni students or the unemployed. However, there's room for school chaplains.

500N 3rd Jun 2014 10:31

W

A decent counsellor should be able to identify a student that needs further assistance and refer them to a psych if required.


Agree.

I know when I did my degree a lot of the course were counsellors or gong onto that field.

IMHO, I would have been good training for them.

Charlie Foxtrot India 3rd Jun 2014 11:12

alison will be taking an extended break for making personal attacks.

Ethel the Aardvark 3rd Jun 2014 14:10

Hi bugged on the right,
Shame you weren't here last year when the labor leaders were named as Krud and juliar, I think we are all thicker skinned than that, even if you refer to us as lefties.
Will the right honourable Phony embarrass himself whilst away, will he be leader on his return, its like national lampoons holiday vacation

RJM 3rd Jun 2014 15:05


I don't find it disturbing, merely irritating . It's as irritating as the right wing 101 response to any criticism; laugh, belittle and dismiss the person making the criticism by calling them an idiot or a child. Both type of responses are boring and add little to the debate, but they're both easy and newsworthy.
That's overstating it a bit, Worrals. There's sledging from all sides, and it is juvenile and detracts from any case, but especially in the social media, the Left seem more prone to it than the Right.

500N 3rd Jun 2014 20:16

Bali bogans ?

I didn't watch it but see local newspaper has an article.

Confirms why I don't go to Bali !

Turn back the bogans: What Really Happens in Bali exposes Australians at their worst

rh200 4th Jun 2014 00:00


Shame you weren't here last year when the labor leaders were named as Krud and juliar,
Yea I was going say, who's on drugs? Where all as bad as each other in that respect:p
Though there's only one side thats right in every thing else though:E.

Pappa Smurf 4th Jun 2014 00:09

I cant remember counsellors in my days at school.

500N 4th Jun 2014 00:11

The counsellor at my school was a long black cane ! :rolleyes:

chuboy 4th Jun 2014 00:11


Originally Posted by 500N (Post 8506218)
Bali bogans ?

I didn't watch it but see local newspaper has an article.

Confirms why I don't go to Bali !

It says a lot that people choose to give it a miss, not because of the destination itself, but because of the Australians they encounter there :{

Isn't there some way we can send them out to sea on a loose chunk of ice like the Inuits do?

Pappa Smurf 4th Jun 2014 00:13

500n.
I reckon the boys from Darwin were having a great time.The locals seemed amused.

500N 4th Jun 2014 00:14

A lot of Bali is superb, but I see them at Darwin airport
and that is enough for me.

Prefer less crowds !

Worrals in the wilds 4th Jun 2014 00:18


That's overstating it a bit, Worrals. There's sledging from all sides, and it is juvenile and detracts from any case, but especially in the social media, the Left seem more prone to it than the Right.
I don't think so. Certainly the Qld LNP government have belittled and/or ridiculed anyone who's publicly disagreed with them. Only three days ago their only response to anti-asset sales protestors was 'yelling and screaming won't fix anything' :bored:. Perhaps the best example was when Premier Newman accused a bunch of firefighter protesters of being fake fireys and asked them if they did calendars. :yuk:

As for social media, I haven't done an exhaustive study of the political commentary (and God knows I hope I never have to :ugh:) so I don't know how the percentages roll, but while many left wing commentators are absolutely frightful,the right aren't squeaky clean either. Not by a looong shot. Earlier this year a respectable member of the Queensland Teachers Union had the nerve to criticise the state government on Tw1tter and was called a 'trade union gutter slut' by an opponent (a commentator frequently retweeted by a senior journo at the Courier Mail) and there are many other examples, particularly wherever Young Liberals gather on the internet.
Both sides of the debate have their feral, rabid commentators, though we probably notice (and get annoyed by) the ones we personally disagree with.

A lot of Bali is superb, but I see them at Darwin airport and that is enough for me.
Bali flights. Shudder. :eek::eek::eek: IME it is a nice place though, once you get away from the beach.

Pappa Smurf 4th Jun 2014 00:18

But 500N,
All the idiots carrying on are in Kuta.Bit like for you in Perth going to an area like Northbridge or Kingscross in Sydney.
Get out the square mile and its good.

500N 4th Jun 2014 00:20

Agree, but I still have to fly there with them !!!

And apart from diving, I'd prefer to go hunting here in Aus.


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