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500N 16th Apr 2014 03:43

Well, interesting developments, that is for sure.

Saltie 16th Apr 2014 03:44

War in Australia (any Oz Politics)
 
I'd like to see them come up with a Commission tasked with publishing monthly how much retired politicians are ripping onto the public purse with their Gold Passes and offices, Comm Cars etc. I know they publish this (is it?) annually, but t needs to put into the public's face far more often.

500N 16th Apr 2014 04:46

Tony Abbott certainly gave a pasting to a reporter / journalist at the press conference today and IMHO put her in her place.

Pinky the pilot 16th Apr 2014 05:47


Tony Abbott certainly gave a pasting to a reporter / journalist at the press conference today and IMHO put her in her place.
Missed that. Perchance was an ALPBC reporter? I hope so.:E

500N 16th Apr 2014 05:53

The reporter used the word "corrupt" to which TA went off and asked her for proof - which she didn't provide, instead rephrasing the question - which TA pointed out was totally different to what was asked :O

I thought he was justified and correct in pulling her up on it.

You can watch it here

'He has taken the honourable step'

Ken Borough 16th Apr 2014 07:16

Abbott's public dressing-down of a reporter says more about him than the poorly advised journo. He should have totally ignored her question and moved on. Quite clearly, his day was ruined by one of his comrades being caught out lying when they (TA and BOF) both expected to be basking in the glow of royalty. (One hopes that Mrs BOF didn't splurge too much on a new frock!). I would suggest that TA does not 'do' pressure very well.

500N 16th Apr 2014 07:22

Ken

I disagree letting it "go" and ignoring it because that could mean you accept it as being correct.

It's like someone calling you something that is absolute BS, do you walk on by and accept it or
pull them up on it ?

Just my HO.

Ken Borough 16th Apr 2014 07:30

The question was based on a false premise and should have been ignored. That Abbott failed to do so not only gave it a life of its own but detracted from the real purpose of his press conference. To illustrate my point, I ask if we're talking about Abbott getting stuck into a journo for asking a wayward question or are we discussing the proposal for a new Sydney Airport and related infrastructure? QED.

Solid Rust Twotter 16th Apr 2014 07:49

And if TA hadn't grilled the journo about her incorrect statement, no doubt the left would have seized on it as a tacit admission. Damned if you do...

rh200 16th Apr 2014 08:03


And if TA hadn't grilled the journo about her incorrect statement, no doubt the left would have seized on it as a tacit admission. Damned if you do...
Exactly right. Journo's are getting away with to much these days, they need to be pulled into line. Frankly some of the headlines used on both sides to get people sucked in to reading a story is disgusting.

500N 16th Apr 2014 08:11

"The standards you walk past are the standards you accept !"

As you say above, the standard of journos, media and headlines
in this country have hit very low levels.

I think you are more damned if you don't pull her up on it because, as you say, the implication that it gives it tacit approval which is worse than highlighting it by pulling it up.

At least the headlines are about TA roasting her, losing his cool and
not about Corrupt NSW Gov't.

Solid Rust Twotter 16th Apr 2014 08:26

TA didn't look overly stressed in that clip, so hardly losing his cool. Looked like he was enjoying taking on the gutter press and watching them try to climb out of the hole they'd dug.

Much as I detest politicians, it appears TA is at least trying to do a good job.

Worrals in the wilds 16th Apr 2014 08:50


Gotta love that NSW ICAC, the gift that keeps on giving.
Royal Commissions are like raffles. Never run one unless you can definitely control the outcome :}.
The Queensland Nats learned this the very, very hard way. :E It seems that the lessons have remained unlearned...

Not really political but still worth noting IMO :(.
Tragic deaths, miners killed at Austar Coal Mine | Mining Australia
We all love the resource industry, whether we're government, management or workers; it brings lots of money and opportunity to Australia. However, there are still has risks and people still die. Not necessarily for evil reasons, but because it's dangerous work. Sure, there aren't the hundreds of deaths that used to be commonplace in mining (and still are in developing countries) but all that money and opportunity still comes at a price.

RIP to Phillip Grant and Jamie Mitchell. Everyone else, stay safe at work, particularly if you're in a line of work where Accidents Happen.
Miner was worried about being underground

Captain Sand Dune 16th Apr 2014 09:54

Must've been one hellava bottle of wine!

On an entirely different topic; saw on the telly this evening that the Chief of Army has forbidden members from drinking in public while in uniform on ANZAC Day.:eek:
Anyone know what has shaken up CA's cage? Is CA telling every man, woman and gender confused member of the Army that they cannot be trusted?:confused: What a slap in the face. I bet all those Army members marching on ANZAC Day will have their girlfriends/boyfriends/non-gender specific significant others waiting at the end of the march with a change of clothes in a bag. The RSLs will be pretty quiet in some towns!
Quite bizarre really. I can only hope the Chiefs of Navy and Air Force don't follow this ridiculous and rather insulting example.

Worrals in the wilds 16th Apr 2014 10:37

CSD, that's crap. :mad:
It just discourages people from marching. Prohibiting members from getting drunk and/or disorderly in uniform is one thing, but having a drink? :ugh:Get real, it's ANZAC day. Having a drink in uniform is part of the tradition. Have there been major law and order issues on ANZAC Day? No.

Hopefully they'll all have a drink (or more) in their undies and the publicans will support their decision. :E

Saltie 16th Apr 2014 11:07

War in Australia (any Oz Politics)
 
Sadly, the Army chiefs know that there are too many out there who will bend over backwards to have a photograph of a drunken soldier they can publish far and wide with a shock horror caption. We've entered a world that is truly mad. Soldiers can march in uniform on a gay pride parade with nary an objection / but they can't have a bloody beer on Anzac Day.

Pinky the pilot 16th Apr 2014 12:42


the Chief of Army has forbidden members from drinking in public while in uniform on ANZAC Day.
And it is my fondest hope that some crusty old RSM; you know the type, been in the Army since who knows when, takes the Chief by the arm, most respectfully mind you..:ooh: and quietly informs him just what sort of a bloody fool he has made of himself by issuing such an order!:ugh::ugh:

However, my guess of the average Aussie Soldier/Sailor/Airman would be that such an order would be 'obeyed in the absence.:}'

In other words, ignored! But with the greatest respect, mind you!:}:rolleyes:

parabellum 16th Apr 2014 12:45


as a result he's lied to the ICAC



I have always understood that a lie is a deliberate act to hide the truth.
O'Farrell didn't lie to the ICAC but he did, without malice or forethought, give them some incorrect information.


The ICAC in NSW are just warming up, wait until they start on the ALP in NSW, I wouldn't be surprised if one Kristina Keneally will be shaking in her shoes, if what I heard was correct.

rh200 16th Apr 2014 13:16

Kristina "be still my beating heart" Keneally, I'd almost swap Sarah Palin for her:p


Kristina Keneally will be shaking in her shoes, if what I heard was correct.
I don't think so, ever seen the movie Basic Instinct, she'll have them transfixed:E



500N 16th Apr 2014 13:37

I nearly fell off the couch when I heard of the CofA's order.
Next up will be the order saying you can't play "two up" on ANZAC day :rolleyes:

What ever happened to an order being sent down and the CSM/RSM's having a word with the unit about no more than a couple of drinks and that's it or hell to pay ????


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