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rh200 6th Apr 2014 20:45


I think that many people in WA used the Senate election as a protest against the Barnett Liberal government in WA
A bit of it maybe, but most of the vote they lost was PUP related and mainly due to advertising. Barnett hasn't really done anything bad apart from spending, that would disaffect voters. He has a lack of depth in his cabinate though that doesn't help.

PUP on the other hand spent like drunken sailors in the senate campaign. There where mornings where I went down to the shops and had nothing but PUP ads on the radio constantly, it was mind blowing. It was all bogan type ads, easy to fall for, well done really.

The Greens did a really good job as well, Scott was all over the place. The Labor party ran the typical negative Tony ad's and the Union piped in with their dark ad's. The Libs had a go with a few positive ad's but to be frank a pathetic effort on their part.

In short, the hard eco and group hug leftys jump from labor, and a big heap of bogans jumped from Labor.

Worrals in the wilds 6th Apr 2014 21:23


There where mornings where I went down to the shops and had nothing but PUP ads on the radio constantly, it was mind blowing. It was all bogan type ads, easy to fall for, well done really.
We got a lot of that in Queensland in the last federal election campaign, and we've heard bugger all from them ever since. :bored:

IMO the dude's a one hit wonder. Lots of noise throughout the campaign and nothing but tumbleweeds the day after. Mind you, what else can you expect from a Gold Coast property developer? :hmm: The PUP vote imploded in the two recent Queensland by-elections, which I think is telling. First time around people bought the spin, had a laugh and wondered if Palmer would be the next 'keep the bastards honest' force in Australian politics, but as he's failed to deliver a thing ever since the spin's largely evaporated.

I don't think the whole Bullock thing helped Labor; it was like something from the Union Heavyweight days of yore mixed in with a bit of new-fashioned Gillard/Rudd style backstabbing and infighting. From a distance it seemed to combine everything that's bad about the ALP into one handy campaign. :rolleyes:

Both major parties need to realise that they're currently about as appealing as a dose of the clap. They can piss and moan all they like about people voting for minor parties, but unless they want to continue the trend of minority govermnments controlled by a handful of fruitbats with issues, they're going to have to have a long hard look at what their grass roots supporters actually want... while they've still got some left.

rh200 7th Apr 2014 04:21


We got a lot of that in Queensland in the last federal election campaign, and we've heard bugger all from them ever since
Yep expecting the same here. Its hard to know what the F#$% Palmers up to and really wants. He's unlikely to get anything meaningful, out of the Libs. And he is supposed to be on the back of getting rid of the mining taxes etc.


Both major parties need to realise that they're currently about as appealing as a dose of the clap. They can piss and moan all they like about people voting for minor parties, but unless they want to continue the trend of minority govermnments controlled by a handful of fruitbats with issues,
True, but more work needs to be done to inform the voters to give them a realistic view of what actually is possible.


they're going to have to have a long hard look at what their grass roots supporters actually want... while they've still got some left.
This is both the curse and the beauty of the two party system monopoly we have. Both partys are some what made up of two major groups that have some major differences. You piss off one too much and the others walk to another party with their bat and ball.

The positive is both partys are all up around the center, which is good as it doesn't annoy people that much when the other wins. Where talking about really annoy:p

bnt 7th Apr 2014 15:15

Julia Gillard has an article in The Guardian today: is it about her politics, or elections? No, it's about Game of Thrones. She became a fan while in office, after her staff turned her on to it:

The staff who worked with me most closely talked in a language I didn't understand, discussing the Wall and the White Walkers, the Iron Throne and dragonglass. During moments of rest, the police on my protection detail would be hunched over iPads watching and talking the same strange lingo.

Drawn in, I binged on series one over three days on brief Christmas leave in 2012. I devoured the second and third as soon as I could. Fiction and reality started to collide. Returning to my office after an aborted coup in March 2013, I was greeted with posters of sword fighting with the slogan: "What do we say to the god of death? Not today." I made it known I was barracking for the Khaleesi. After all, what girl has not yearned for a few dragons when in a tight spot?
NB: there are spoilers later in the piece.

Saltie 7th Apr 2014 17:29

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Hmmmm.... Julia Gillard and Game of Thrones ... Which character most closely matches Our Julia? The 'Res Woman' (the one who gave birth to the evil monster and created a religion that demanded the death of everyone who opposed her)? Works for me.

Saltie 7th Apr 2014 17:33

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Kalisie she is NOT. Not even a pale shadow. (The GoT Kalisie is seriously HOT, which Julia is not.)

megle2 8th Apr 2014 07:28

Meanwhile did I hear correctly that the PM's trade mission hit a snag when one aircraft broke down. How many did he take

Saltie 8th Apr 2014 09:14

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Just about every CEO/Chairman of every major corporation in Australia That's pretty much the rule on trade missions/junkets like this. Both parties do it, and I think it could be argued that the taxpayer probably gets value for the money spent, if only because the senior government staff get access to and sometimes form a working relationship with the top level men in big business. The businessmen usually do the same with their counterparts in the countries visited.

parabellum 8th Apr 2014 22:57

Did anyone else see that miserable little wretch, Senator Wong, on TV this morning? Denigrating everything that Abbott and his ministers have achieved so far, not a positive comment to be heard. As one commentator remarked, a bit rich coming from the ALP who, in a six year period, achieved absolutely nothing worth having by way of trade agreements with these same countries.

SOPS 9th Apr 2014 01:54

Ah so Bill is on leave, ( I'm sorry tu hear about his mother, what ever his polotics) and so Penny has been let loose. She has been quiet of late, and obviously taken an opportunity to say her piece, unfettered by Bill.

Ken Borough 9th Apr 2014 02:22


I'm sorry tu hear about his mother, what ever his polotics
I'll second SOP's kind thoughts. I am always saddened when a bloke or blokess loses his or her mother as I know just how poorly one feels. I believe that BS was particularly close to his mother who was largely responsible for his education at Xavier in Melbourne.

Saltie 9th Apr 2014 02:25

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I suppose the duty of an Opposition is to oppose. However, when opposing is proposing policies that were thoroughly dismissed by a large majority in the last election and criticising government actions that a vast majority of political commentators see as positive, it makes the Loyal Opposition look... well, silly. A bit like they looked when in Government.

Saltie 9th Apr 2014 02:26

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How incredibly apt that Bill Shorten's initials are 'BS'. Thanks for pointing that out, Ken.

500N 9th Apr 2014 02:27

Yes, he was close to his Mum and it was sad to hear.

Second Salties comments. Labor need to be careful about what they oppose because they did F all in 6 years and now better not hold up Abbott.

I also notice Abbott setting the scene for the Senate and the mandate he has. I think that is a good thing.

Ken Borough 9th Apr 2014 02:33

Saltie,

1. At the risk of being branded a pedant, I think his initials might really be WS!

2. I caught some of Penny Wong's interview last night. My take was that she was critical of part of the Trade Agreement, as have some primary producer organisations. On the other hand, Craig Emmerson, a former Trade Minister who would have been heavily engaged in the negotiations, opined that the Agreement was as good as it gets. Further, some commentators have suggested that the Agreement was finalised in haste so that Aboott could put a trophy in his spartan cabinet.

As for the agreement with Korea, this was no more than a photo opportunity for Abbott to be seen formally signing the agreement that had been concluded some time ago.

SOPS 9th Apr 2014 03:12

And in other news, it seems we have a gang rape in Sydney, that was carried out by 3 men of ME appearance. And while a 2GB reporter was on air, reporting from the park where the gang rape was carried out, he was abused by a gang saying that the girls were "asking for it ".

rh200 9th Apr 2014 04:31


he was abused by a gang saying that the girls were "asking for it ".
Let me guess, they where of ME appearence as well.

SOPS 9th Apr 2014 04:45

Spot on rh. At least that was what was being reported live at the time.

500N 9th Apr 2014 05:22

We have a real problem in Aus with the ME who do this sort of thing,
starting with that crowd / family who ended up in jail (Sydney).

SOPS 9th Apr 2014 05:38

Yes 500, they have been comparing this latest case, with the one you refer to on Sydney radio, this afternoon.

It seems we may have a culture of men on our hands that see ( western ) women as fair game at all costs.

I'm sure Two Dads still has room in her spare bedroom for these latest three.

Can deportation back to a culture the would obviously feel more comfortable in, be arranged, I wonder?

Interesting quote from a detective just being interviewed.......these knuckleheads have so little respect for the law they seem to have forgotten that we have hours of CCTV of them following the girls on the train, before they took them to the park......end quote. Hopefully these grubs will be found quickly.


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