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Fliegenmong 30th Dec 2013 11:54

I can cop $6 a visit (surprisingly).....reckon plenty can't, certainly many many tax payers who have paid for years into the system will be disadvantaged by this proposal

Coalition considers end to free GP visits

As always it's about punishing the lowest paid hardest working with a coalition government, never anything about those with the most means from stop sucking the public teat.....

A family friend living in a $10 mill. waterfront mansion with a DB9 in the garage was very pleased to be sucking the public teat for all it's worth....until they thought they may have to spend $6 for a visit to the Doctor, sure they pay more tax.,.....they also thought that paying a fortune for a box of Cubans was most rational, but they'll complain when they need spend $6 to see a physician about their lung cancer... :ugh:

I really need to develop a "F#*k the less well off attitude", no matter how hard they work or the hours they put in.......

Ken Borough 30th Dec 2013 12:08

Surely Fliegs a better way to help the health budget would be to

1. Increase the Medicare a Levy by say one-half or one-third of one percent, and

2. Not repeal the withdrawal of the tax rebate for private health insurance for high income earners.

The poor should not be penalised as everyone has an entitlement in a rich country like ours to good health care. The better off - I am one of them - may squeal but so what?

TA should seriously think about his PPL scheme for high earner mothers. Though funded by a tax on companies, all in society will bear the cost: is it another way of cost-shifting?

Fliegenmong 30th Dec 2013 12:57

Umm....right now Ken I'm of to puff a Cuban, and sip a Pernod........

But without too much consideration.......you are most likely right...........

MTOW 30th Dec 2013 20:35

War in Australia (any Oz Politics)
 
Grasping at some pretty flimsy straws with your last two posts, aren't we, Fleigs?

bosnich71 30th Dec 2013 20:54

Never mind an extra 6 quid to visit the doctors. I'm still in hysterics about the "global warming scientists" stuck in the ice. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...cons/icon7.gif

Andu 30th Dec 2013 21:49

Currently listening to ALPBC radio (702 Sydney) and an interview with the scientific expedition leader on the Russian ship trapped in ice in Antarctic waters.

Wendy Harmer, her "of course, we know better" smugness factor at warp factor five, said to the Brit warmist scientist: "Of course, there are (heavily implied by her tone of voice "totally ignorant") people here in Australia who are saying that this proves global warming is all wrong."

The scientist, his intellectual superiority factor at warp factor six: "Ah, the flat earthers who believe the earth is six thousand years old..."

Closing the interview, Harmer squeezed in: "I'm glad we've been able to give you a laugh (over the global warming skeptics)". To which the warmist scientist replied "I'll deal with the loonies when we get home."

Much mirth about "the loonies".

Edited to add: everything that is wrong with the ABC and their near religious groupthink encapsulated in a couple of throwaway comments in one short interview - if you don't think the way we do, you're just so obviously wrong and "loony".

Worrals in the wilds 31st Dec 2013 02:26

It looks pretty flat down there at the moment, stuck in the ice. I wouldn't be too superior about anything if it were my expedition. :ouch:

I don't know much about either Antarctica or ships but for those who do.... were these guys in the wrong place at the wrong time, or was it badly planned? I read somewhere that it was the first privately funded scientific expedition to the Antarctic :uhoh:; did they goof it up or just have bad luck?

everything that is wrong with the ABC and their near religious groupthink encapsulated in a couple of throwaway comments in one short interview - if you don't think the way we do, you're just so obviously wrong and "loony".
I agree. It's left-wing student union-style circa 1990 :bored:, and some of them never grew out of it. What they don't realise is that 1. it's getting less effective by the day and 2. it can actually be counter-productive. People don't like being belittled or talked down to, and many people respond to it by beocming even more determined in their opposite POV.

For all their moral superiority and insufferable smugness, the Harmers of this world have damaged the global warming cause far more than its actual opponents have.

david1300 31st Dec 2013 02:53

This surprised me, as I answered all the questions truthfully. I really didn't think I was this balanced.
http://i40.tinypic.com/2r42brd.jpg

Actually I still don't. I must have been on calming meds or something when I did the 'test' :)

Airey Belvoir 31st Dec 2013 03:15

Hmm....$6 for a visit to the Doc?


Only kicks in after you've been 10 times in a year (that might check those "popping in" to get a sick note for the cricket).


Does not apply to those on a pension, benefits or health cards.


Punitive medicare levies apply to the fit, young and employed.


So, by my reading it applies to the fit young hypochondriacs who are in employment and who wouldn't miss $6 if it was serious. Oh, and wasn't it first thought up by Hawke/Keating?


Still, let's not get the facts in the way of dogma....the outrage bus is about to leave ..... "All aboard!"

Captain Sand Dune 31st Dec 2013 03:39


There were some Letters to the Editor of the SMH today suggesting that Cosgrove may be an inappropriate choice for G-G. The letter writers make a fair point as to some of the ADF scandal that is supposed to have taken place during his leadership. We wouldn't want another Hollingsworth would we?
Barbie would know about that, wouldn't she?:hmm:

CoodaShooda 31st Dec 2013 08:01

$6 to visit the doctor? Loooxury!

The practice I've been attending since 1978 was bought out by a southern medical retailing group last year.

The $80 fee immediately went to $90, with the medibank refund staying at $36.

Except, the last time I trotted off to medibank to claim my refund, I was told the practice had already bulk billed it. No matter that I had a receipt showing I'd paid the account myself. Medibank didn't want to know.

Rang the practice. They apologised and promised to sort it out.

A couple of days later, I received another invoice from the practice in the mail, with a note inviting me to use it to claim my refund from medibank.

Wasted another two hours getting to and from the local office, only to be told that the record showed that this invoice had also been claimed by the practice as a bulk bill.

Nett result, I'm more than $6 out of pocket and am changing to another practice. It won't bulk bill either.

Solid Rust Twotter 31st Dec 2013 08:23

Sounds a little fraudulent, Mr Shooda. Paying them the full amount and then finding they've already claimed the refund for themselves can't be on the up and up.:uhoh:


Unless I've missed something...

SOPS 31st Dec 2013 09:44

Yes, that sounds like a big scam to me.

MTOW 31st Dec 2013 09:56

War in Australia (any Oz Politics)
 
My wife worked as a nurse in a suburban practice in the 70s (the Whitlam 'free medicine' years). They had a number of patients they' d see weekly of not more often, (mostly elderly females). One told her that the visit to the doctor was a chance to have someone listen to her for a few minutes - something she could get nowhere else - and it was free. So she would continue to do it as long as it was costing her nothing.

Andu 1st Jan 2014 02:26

Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian

Mr Abbott said he hoped more Australians would "have a go'' and start new businesses, build new houses, undertake further study and make investments to build a more prosperous country.
I'm sure I'm not alone in hoping Mr Abbott takes his own advice and "has a go" in 2014. to date, he seems to have been very unwilling to do so.

We didn't vote for a 'Labor Lite' government, Mr Abbott, which many feel you are giving us as you attempt to be all things to all men.

SOPS 1st Jan 2014 07:02

Could not agree more Andu, I'm waiting for some action as well.

Clare Prop 1st Jan 2014 07:39

Some action on their aviation policy would be nice.

Captain Sand Dune 2nd Jan 2014 05:00


A Sydney father has been charged with organising the female genital mutilation of his baby daughter overseas.
The man had his then nine-month-old girl circumcised while abroad in February 2012, police allege.
They were alerted six months later after the girl's mother took her to the doctor.
It is unclear in what country the alleged procedure took place.
Following investigations, the father was arrested on Tuesday and charged with procuring female genital mutilation.
He will face Manly Local Court on January 28.
Female genital mutilation of children is much more common in Australia and by Australians overseas than authorities can detect, NSW Community Services Minister Pru Goward has said.
But toughening the law on this ``hideous'' crime is not an option, she added.
Instead, community engagement and education is needed to prevent more little girls being targeted, Ms Goward told ABC Radio on Thursday.
The latest incident is only the second prosecution case in relation to the practice in NSW and believed to be the first time a person has been charged with procuring the procedure abroad.
In 2012, eight members of a small religious order in Sydney - including a sheikh, a retired nurse and two parents - were charged over the female genital mutilation of two sisters, aged six and seven.
Their case remains before the courts.
Ms Goward said anecdotal evidence showed the practice was ``more common than the reports would suggest''.
``It's so easy to hide within a community that condones it, within a household that condones it,'' Ms Goward said.
She said it was only the second prosecution of a practice that was conducted in ``secretive and very well-conspired arrangements'' to hide it from the authorities.''
The crime often only came to light when the child suffered a complication from the procedure or there was a marital breakdown.
She said they had ``looked and looked'' at toughening the laws but felt increasing the penalties would not necessarily stop the crime from occurring.
``I think the law is tough enough,'' she said.
``I think what does need to happen is that our immigration authorities have to get much more vigilant about advising communities that it is not lawful in Australia.
``We need to change attitudes and culture, that's a much slower process than changing the law.''
Ah, the wonderful contribution of unfettered multi-culturalism. SHY and her ilk must be so proud.
And how's Pru's form?!?!

the practice was ``more common than the reports would suggest''.

``It's so easy to hide within a community that condones it, within a household that condones it,''

practice that was conducted in ``secretive and very well-conspired arrangements'' to hide it from the authorities.''
and her suggested solution?

``We need to change attitudes and culture, that's a much slower process than changing the law.''
because;

toughening the law on this ``hideous'' crime is not an option,

``I think the law is tough enough,'' she said.
:eek: Really, Pru?!
Would you like to tell that to the poor women who have had to suffer this? No, didn't think so. Far safer to keep your head firmly up your *ss.:mad:
How about castrating the animals that do this with a rusty blade dipped in pig fat?

SOPS 2nd Jan 2014 07:37

Pru and SHY should hang there heads in shame. But I'm sure, for SHY at least, she will be down on the beach happily welcoming the next boat load.

rh200 2nd Jan 2014 07:46

You have no idea what I would love to do with animals who do that. (emotive response):(

But I thought as a progressive multicultural society we should be embracing the practices of our fellow Australian (or son to be) brethren.

I should feel sorry for the left sometimes, they must be so conflicted with the hypocritical stances they have to take. :p


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