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david1300 8th Apr 2013 10:41

It's an attempt to save and develop jobs upstream from the car manufacturers - those who supply components to local and international car manufacturers. There are some almost niche manufacturing industries that depend on local car manufacturers to take up a base load so they can develop international markets. As an example, until recently all wheels for Harley Davidson motorcycles were manufactured in SA.

Andu 8th Apr 2013 10:51


8 April 2013

Border Protection Command assists vessels

HMAS Melville, operating under the coordination of the Australian Maritime Safety Authority’s Rescue Coordination Centre, has rendered assistance to a suspected irregular entry vessel that sought assistance east of ChristmasIsland last night.

Initial indications suggest there are 127 people on board.

HMAS Childers, operating under the coordination of the Australian Maritime Safety Authority’s Rescue Coordination Centre, has separately rendered assistance to a suspected irregular entry vessel that sought assistance north of Ashmore Islands yesterday.

Initial indications suggest there are 72 people on board.

Border Protection Command will now make arrangements for the passengers from both vessels to be transferred to Australian Government authorities on Christmas Island, where they will undergo initial security, health and identity checks and their reasons for travel will be established.

People arriving by boat without a visa after 13 August 2012 run the risk of transfer to a regional processing country.

And earlier today, Jason intercepted a vessel.







8 April 2013

Border Protection Command intercepts vessel

HMAS Melville, operating under the control of Border Protection Command, intercepted a suspected irregular entry vessel north-west of Christmas Island overnight.

Initial indications suggest there are 81 passengers and two crew on board.

The vessel was initially detected by a RAAF maritime patrol aircraft, operating under the control of Border Protection Command.

Border Protection Command will now make arrangements for the passengers to be transferred to Australian Government authorities on Christmas Island, where they will undergo initial security, health and identity checks and their reasons for travel will be established.

People arriving by boat without a visa after 13 August 2012 run the risk of transfer to a regional processing country.
No mention of the weekend arrivals. How many slipped in on Saturday and Sunday, I wonder, when the public serf who must spend all day compiling these reports, was on days off?

Meanwhile, in attempt to broaden their voting base, the Greens in Tasmania are trying to get the voting age lowered to 16. 16? Why not 14? Nah, make it 12. You might as well go the whole hog and allow pregnant women a double vote, one for Mum and one for junior who's still in utero.

500N 8th Apr 2013 11:06

Looking at these list of HMAS boats, you can have 4 - 6 different
Navy ships listed in a very short space of time.

I know we don't have unlimited Fast Patrol Boats and have
already had articles written on the excess or sped up wear
and tear on them due to the sustained work being done in
border protection - picking up Asylum seekers.

I know the Navy protects the sea borders but how many ships
do we have just patrolling instead of picking up AS.

Also, what happens when all this sped up wear
and tear means the boats need to be replaced ?

Where are we going to get the money for the new boats ?

Saltie 8th Apr 2013 11:14

I haven't checked Snopes to see whether this is legit. or a chain email hoax. Whatever, it's an interesting read, guaranteed to offend anyone to the Left of Atilla the Hun in their politics. (I also think it would be one of the safest bets in town that this letter will soon be arriving in people's inboxes with 'Australian' replacing 'Canadian' in the text.)

A few weeks ago Quebec officially banned the hijab for certain transactions where identity is mandatory. It's a start. It's a privilege to be allowed to immigrate and to live in this country - not a right. When this hit the e-news a few weeks ago, there was overwhelming support by the readers who AGREED with Quebec 's action. The letter below says it all.

A Letter to the Editor (excellent letter)

So many letter writers have explained how this land is made up of
immigrants. Maybe we should turn to our history books and point out to
people why today's Canadian is not willing to accept the new kind of
immigrant any longer.

Back in 1900 when there was a rush from all areas of Europe to come to
Canada, people had to get off a ship and stand in a long line in Halifax and
be documented. Some would even get down on their hands and knees and kiss
the ground. They made a pledge to uphold the laws and support their new
country in good and bad times. They made learning English a primary rule in
their new Canadian households and some even changed their names to blend in
with their new home. They had waved good bye to their birth place to give
their children a new and better life and did everything in their power to
help their children assimilate into one culture.

Nothing was handed to them. No free lunches, no welfare, no labour laws to
protect them. All they had were the skills, craftsmanship and desire they
had brought with them to trade for a future of prosperity.

Most of their children came of age when World War II broke out. Canadians
fought alongside men whose parents had come straight over from Germany,
Italy, France, Japan, China, Czechoslovakia, Russia, Sweden, Poland and so
many other places. None of these first generation Canadians ever gave any
thought about what country their parents had come from. They were Canadians
fighting Hitler, Mussolini and the Emperor of Japan. They were defending the
Freedom as one people. When we liberated France, no one in those villages
was looking for the Ukrainian-Canadian or the German-Canadian or the
Irish-Canadian. The people of France saw only Canadians.

And we carried one flag that represented our country. Not one of those
immigrant sons would have thought about picking up another country's flag
and waving it to represent who they were. It would have been a disgrace to
their parents who had sacrificed so much to be here. These immigrants truly
knew what it meant to be a Canadian. They stirred the melting pot into one
red and white bowl.

And here we are in 2012 with a new kind of immigrant who wants the same
rights and privileges, only they want to achieve it by playing with a
different set of rules - one that includes a Canadian passport and a
guarantee of being faithful to their mother country. I'm sorry, that's not
what being a Canadian is all about. Canadians have been very open-hearted
and open-minded regarding immigrants, whether they were fleeing poverty,
dictatorship, persecution, or what ever else makes us think of those
aforementioned immigrants who truly did ADOPT our country, our flag, our
morals and our customs, and left their wars, hatred, and divisions behind.
I believe that the immigrants who landed in Canada in the early 1900s
deserve better than that for the toil, hard work and sacrifice of those
legally searching for a better life. I think they would be appalled that
they are being used as an example by those waving foreign country flags,
fighting foreign battles on our soil, making Canadians change to suit their
religions and cultures, and wanting to change our country’s fabric by
claiming discrimination when we do not give in to their demands.

Its about time we get real and stand up for our forefathers’ rights. We are
CANADIAN. I am a Native of this Country and proud of it!

NO MORE POLITICAL CORRECTNESS! And while we're on the subject - allow
CHRISTMAS back in stores and our schools! I want back the country of my

Anthill 8th Apr 2013 11:21

Further to my previous post, I wrote to Senator Christine Milne to inform her that a site set up by a Greens member was engaged in systematic internet harrassment (it should be noted that this person says that he has had nothing to do with the site for the last 18 months). I also told her that I had promised legal action persuant to The Defamation Act 2005 if they did not remove my name from their site, which they did. This is the response:

Thank you for contacting Senator Milne; I am replying on her behalf.

We appreciate you contacting us with your concerns in regard to “theantibogan” website. It’s unfortunate you had a bad experience with them, but sounds like you have taken an effective course of action in addressing the issue.

The Australian Greens agree that Australia's cultural plurality is a part of the nation's identity and should be recognised as such. All people, regardless of culture, ethnicity, religion, language, place of birth or citizenship status should have equal rights and the right to participate equally in social, economic and cultural life.

You might want to check the terms of service of wordpress to see whether there has been a violation of their terms of service in this case. If there has been inappropriate content posted, the site can take action against users abusing the terms of service. The wordpress terms of service are available at:http://en.wordpress.com/tos/.

Kind regards,

Felicity Gray
Office of Senator Christine Milne
Leader of the Australian Greens
GPO Box 896 Hobart TAS 7001 | Ph: 03 6224 8899 | Fax: 03 6224 7599

Great. She doesn't say if she agrees with or is appalled by the actions of that site. Either way it's obvious that these adolescents aren't fit to govern and have no reasonable role to play in the future of our country.

SOPS 8th Apr 2013 15:31

How come when Eileen is speaking in China, she sounds different ?

Solid Rust Twotter 8th Apr 2013 16:26

Because China shoots bogans?

RJM 8th Apr 2013 19:38

Meanwhile, in South Australia GMH (General Motors Holden) has today announced the loss of some 500 jobs
But remember that

'Since Labor was elected in November 2007, more than 920,000 new jobs have been created in Australia' (Thursday 28 March 2013, Joint Media Release by The Hon Wayne Swan MP, Deputy Prime Minister & Treasurer and The Hon Bill Shorten MP, Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations, Financial Services and Superannuation)
(Howls of derisive laughter)

Meanwhile in China I bet JG's taken a copy of this to show around:


and is giving her red jacket another outing:


Andu 8th Apr 2013 22:02

Re the pic above, with the two ChiCom soldiers immediately behind her looking to the left and down at Eileen's... well, to me, it looks like they're checking out those oft-remarked hips.

That pic is just begging for a caption, particularly a comment from one of those soldiers.

I see that Labor's polls have "soared" by two points with Eileen strutting the world stage. It troubles me to think that there are still people - voters - out there whose opinions can be swayed by that.

Did anyone else see the Logies broadcast and the ALPBC's comedian Adam Hills (or is it Hill?) and his comments, (met with the overwhelming approval of the adoring entertainment industry glitterati), about his recent trip to England, where "everyone" he met could not believe that we in Australia were so stupid as to want to get rid of a government that was running such an incredibly successful economy. The ABC really needs to be sold off, for it's become little more than an undisguised ALP propaganda arm, and the sad thing is, an overwhelming number of its staff and talking heads don't see anything even remotely wrong with that.

Captain Sand Dune 8th Apr 2013 22:49

Polls say whatever those whom commission them want them to say.

As for Adam Hills' comments, well he is a funny guy isn't he?! :E
If Australia's economy is strong, it is in spite of the ALP's policies not because of them.

Worrals in the wilds 8th Apr 2013 22:52

You watched the Logies? :E:hmm:

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 8th Apr 2013 23:00

Now THAT's a crime!

500N 8th Apr 2013 23:08

Agree, but sometimes the red carpet is sometimes worth watching
as some of the ladies are stunning.

And the odd one who always looks crap !!!

Andu 9th Apr 2013 03:50

You watched the Logies?
Not guilty. Saw the clip - and the outraged, disbelieving comments by the host - on Paul Murray Live, which I find far more entertaining.

I think we in Australia should join the far Left commentators in lambasting Margaret Thatcher. It is she we have to blame for all the rabid socialists deserting the Old Dart after the winter of discontent and coming out here to the colonies to have a second go at making their unworkable policies work.

The ALPBC this morning had some ex-Brit professor of sociology from the University of Western Sydney on air bemoaning Thatcher for destroying all that he holds dear in the UK. So he came out here and is teaching our students the very ideas that were proven not to work in England. But being a true Leftie, along with Conroy, Gillard and all the rest of these retread Pom Socialists, he'll try it all again here. God help us all.

Clare Prop 9th Apr 2013 04:04

I wonder if they will try to turn the strong reaction to the death of Thatcher into some kind of anti-Abbot propaganda.
Never mind that her hero and brother in Fabianism, Tony Blair, had a lot more dead bodies on his watch.

500N 9th Apr 2013 04:13


That is a long bow to draw although they might try it.

Clare Prop 9th Apr 2013 04:36

I'm pretty disgusted at the mob mentality of my former countrymen. Yes she was awful but there was no alternative really, we had a wall and the four minute warning along with 100 million skeletons to remind us what the Marxists stood for.

She was a product of her times and what we had to have at the time.

As for Gillard I can just see the "Vote for me or you will end up with another Margaret Thatcher and see how evil she was!" then conveniently rewrite history, excluding of course the countless dead bodies and destroyed country thanks to he Fabian brother Blair.. Already I have seen her being blamed for "Starting the war in Northern Ireland" and "Invading the Falklands". :ugh::ugh:

500N 9th Apr 2013 04:40

Although a bit young, I am a Maggie supporter who did what
needed to be done. In some ways a bit like Kennett :O

Worrals in the wilds 9th Apr 2013 04:56

'Always remember that the crowd that applauds your coronation is the same crowd that will applaud your beheading. People like a show'. (Terry Pratchett).
Some of the commentary has been vitriolic, but IMO the British press is often really mean even about vacuous celeb stuff, so a pollie as polarising as Thatcher was always going to be a target.

sisemen 9th Apr 2013 06:39

It is instructive to note the differences between the thread on Margaret Thatcher on the Military Aircrew site and the thread on JB. Even Wholigan has thought fit to comment.

Anyway, back to our own patch.......

Anyone else found it surprising that, following the announcement that Dullard's promise to the teachers about bonuses was canned there has been nary a word from the (generally) left leaning teaching mob?

Can you imagine the hue and cry had the Coalition done the same?

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