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Andu 1st Jan 2013 21:43


People who insisted on commenting about issues that were completely removed from their expertise.
Given that from her public comments on every subject I've ever heard her pronounce and pontificate upon, she fills the criterion above to a 'T', may I nominate Sarah Hansenhypentwodads as the first contemporary nominee?

Malcolm Fraser and Paul Keating would be close to the top in the very highly populated 'has beens' category.

parabellum 1st Jan 2013 21:52

Worrals, another category might be:

"Any ex union official who, having ripped off their union mates for several years have reached a level of dishonesty and corruption that qualifies them to be parachuted into an ALP seat and rise to high office in a Labour government".......? ;)

Dark Knight 1st Jan 2013 22:06

Labor start the new year with the same traditions of dishonesty, deceit & untruthfulness.

Jenny (Useless?) Macklin says she "of course I can live on the dole" however the official transcript from her office says her comments `inaudible'. Later clarified that that a nearby vehicle made the mobile phone transcript inaudible.

The TV footage is very clear and concise with no nearby vehicle audible.

This is a deceitful act, is dishonest and whilst the Minister may not have said directly her comment is inaudible (that is, she was untruthful however, someone with in her office was) the actions & responsibility for actions within or from her office stop with her/are her responsibility!

It is going to be a great year!

Captain Sand Dune 1st Jan 2013 22:11


A HOMELESS nomad who spends most of the year wandering overseas has won the right to keep his welfare payment after arguing his pension goes further in South-East Asia than in Australia.
The 62-year-old's disability pension was initially cancelled in March because he did not have a fixed address in Australia, did not meet the residential requirements needed for the payment and spent two-thirds of the year overseas.
The man, who suffers from schizophrenia, has lived a nomadic lifestyle for decades and has been receiving the pension since April 1984.
For the past 10 years he has spent most of his time roaming Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Thailand, Singapore, Laos, China and Vietnam; countries where he is able to survive on his pension.
Now, the Administrative Appeals Tribunal has overturned the departmental decision to cut his pension, ruling he needed to travel overseas because of his dire poverty.
"His travel overseas is linked to the difficulties he has faced as a homeless person in Australia and his current lack of assets," the AAT ruled
"He does not travel to one country in South-East Asia but moves around. The applicant says he travels to South-East Asia mainly because this enables him to get a room with a TV and airconditioning together with three meals a day and some beer money within the tight parameters of the pension payment.
"The applicant is unable to afford accommodation in Australia on his pension."
When he is in Australia he moves around frequently but considers campsites around Darwin his home base and avoids Melbourne and Sydney because of the cooler weather.
He told the tribunal he hoped an inheritance from his 100-year-old mother would enable him to buy a caravan.
"The applicant considers Australia his home. Although the applicant's home base is a series of sites on Aboriginal land and a number of informal arrangements (including staying with friends, family or camping) and although he is homeless, this does not mean he has no connection with Australia," the AAT ruled.
What drugs are these numpties smoking??!!:mad: I object to my taxes funding someone's overseas travel. I don't care how fcuking schizophrenic he is. Further evidence that the welfare culture in this country is pretty well out of control. Small wonder boatloads of "refugees" are risking life and limb to get here and get onto Centrelink ASAP.

Fubaar 1st Jan 2013 22:31

Capt Sand Dune, I had a very similar reaction this morning when I heard the interview on AM with the man running the detention centre on Manus Island. The touchy-feelie bullsh1t he was sprouting leaves me even more convinced that the "asylum seekers" under his care see us as fools to be exploited to the fullest extent.p

sisemen 2nd Jan 2013 00:21


Jenny (Useless?) Macklin says she "of course I can live on the dole"
If it wasn't for the gold plated pension then she might well be having to come the election aftermath.

I'm already giving the baseball bat a going over with linseed oil in delicious anticipation :E

Buster Hyman 2nd Jan 2013 01:13


he needed to travel overseas because of his dire poverty
So, are we going to roumd up all the beggars & send them overseas for a better lifestyle? Is this an opportunity for us to swap "refugees" for the homeless?

Croozin 2nd Jan 2013 01:42

http://bl*gs.news.com.au/dailytelegr...few_stupidity/

Delete * and insert 'o'.


WHY did The Star casino spend upwards of $600,000 to fly Leonardo DiCaprio and pals to Sydney for New Year’s Eve?

The only good thing to come out of the exercise in celebrity pandering was that it highlighted the absurdity of Sydney airport’s archaic curfew - but more of that later.
Sydney airport's curfew is a hot potato I don't think either Party/'Pardee' could touch in a constructive way without losing votes on a grand scale.

Pity we couldn't borrow the idea of offshore airports from the Japanese and build the runway(s) in the oggin - like in the middle of Botany Bay? - and use the existing land for a decent sized terminal.

Croozin 2nd Jan 2013 01:42

... and car parking.

Worrals in the wilds 2nd Jan 2013 03:35


"Any ex union official who, having ripped off their union mates for several years have reached a level of dishonesty and corruption that qualifies them to be parachuted into an ALP seat and rise to high office in a Labour government".......? http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...lies/wink2.gif
I suppose if they wrote a book about it they'd be eligible...:E

Pity we couldn't borrow the idea of offshore airports from the Japanese and build the runway(s) in the oggin - like in the middle of Botany Bay? - and use the existing land for a decent sized terminal.
A great plan that will simply descend into the usual 'we no afford to payy' catfight between both levels of government, the airport corporation and the airlines. :zzz:

Clare Prop 2nd Jan 2013 04:59

"Any ex union official who, having ripped off their union mates for several years have reached a level of dishonesty and corruption that qualifies them to be parachuted into an ALP seat and rise to high office in a Labour government".......?

If we substitute "union official" with "state premier" and "union mates" with "state taxpayers" then that could be a sub-catagory of the above....

Croozin 2nd Jan 2013 05:54

Release of the 1984 Cabinet papers has bob'orke suggesting abolition of the States...

1984... + 5 = 198-...

Does that mean we have only five years to wait to see what was going on behind closed doors in Federal Cabinet in "that year we dare not mention here"?

I'm sure there'll be a number here who'll be very interested in learning what went on between bob'orke and his Cabinet colleagues then. Not that I imagine the real decisions in that little matter were ever decided by Cabinet. My guess is that Jabba the Hutt just told bob'orke how it was going to be and bob'orke jumped to comply, so there's probably no record of how those decisions were reached or who - if anyone - objected to what many older Ppruners would think were rather extraordinary Government decisions.

Charlie Foxtrot India 2nd Jan 2013 10:10

We'll have to wait another five years for that. Meanwhile, that year is taboo on this site so let's leave it there until then! Thank you

Fliegenmong 2nd Jan 2013 21:09

So then, as a hard working white Australian (Born & Bred) family man, receiving none of my taxes back by way of any welfare whatsoever, and observing the long line f*#kups by this government............the alternative is a bunch that are going to make it even harder for my Family & I?

'Tis indeed depressing to realise the alternative gummint will make life harder, and likely more expensive...current mob deserve the boot....current opposition after the howard train wreck, haven't been in exile nearly long enough.....:(

Wonder for how many years they'll blame current gummint? Do you think they'll get an ex Treasurer of questionable ability to 'independently audit' :suspect: the books like the QLD government did? :rolleyes:

No question the LNP government here in QLD are a bunch of narcissiscitic hooligan ideologues, what was surprising was just how fast they turned so bad, and after so much 'promise' :rolleyes:

Come and save us 'Man in the Hat' :D

Andu 2nd Jan 2013 21:12

I'm sure everyone will bow to your request, CFI. But it bears saying that "that particular year" shows to anyone with even a passing knowledge of what went on then that deep corruption at the top in the Labor Party (sorry, Pardee) is nothing new.

There's been nothing in the news, but how many boats have arrived since the New Year?

Croozin 2nd Jan 2013 21:30

I don't have a source for this (saw it on another blog this morning and simply cut and pasted), but if it's true, what would be the chances of it ever being brought in at a federal level? (Apologies for the shouting, but that's how it was posted.)


WHAT GREAT NEWS.
QUEENSLAND (AND WE ARE EX QUEENSLANDERS) ARE LOOKING AT SCRAPPING COMPULSORY VOTING.
LET EVERY BLOGGER WHO BELIEVES IN DEMOCRACY GET BEHIND THIS AND NOT JUST AT STATE LEVEL BUT AT FEDERAL LEVEL
THEN TRUE DEMOCRACY AND A THINKING VOTER WILL EMERGE.
CAMPBELL NEWMAN YOU HAVE OUR FULL SUPPORT

Worrals in the wilds 2nd Jan 2013 21:41

It's from the front page of today's Courier Wail. I haven't had a chance to read it yet but apparently the Qld Nats (sorry, LNP, small sense of deja vu :E) have commissioned yet another study into stuff. This one suggests voluntary voting as a great step forward. Personally I'm not a fan because IMO it allows crazy interest groups to get a foothold in the electoral process (and Qld has a lot of crazy interest groups :eek:) but that's just my two cents. I realise there are pros and cons, but what's apparent in the UK and the US is that the THINKING VOTERS don't emerge. They don't bother. It's the contrail advocates and anti vaccine zealots who rock up to vote, while the 'thinking' voters shrug their shoulders and declare that it's all too hard.

Last week's Newman Government study advocated a Stradbroke Island bridge, which is a sure sign of Joh Fever. :hmm: Compulsory Boot Camps for juuvies (even though they don't work), going Nuclear and fighting with the ETU have just been warm-up exercises.

Doubtlessly one member of the Cabinet is now eating for Queensland so he can look like Russ Hinze. :ouch:

CoodaShooda 2nd Jan 2013 21:59

At least you're not being run by a fundamentalist Christian ex-teacher, supported by an asocial quantity surveyor to crunch the dollars, Worrals. :{

Mills is making Abbott look like a raving atheist by comparison.

It's getting so bad up here, I'm actually thinking about taking a job in Canberra. :eek:

Liberals - the hangover you have to have once the (labor) pardee is over. :{

Captain Sand Dune 2nd Jan 2013 23:35


but what's apparent in the UK and the US is that the THINKING VOTERS don't emerge. They don't bother. It's the contrail advocates and anti vaccine zealots who rock up to vote, while the 'thinking' voters shrug their shoulders and declare that it's all too hard.
Y'know I'm not sure that would be the case here. I reckon that "thinking voters" actually think, as opposed to just voting for the party (or is that "pardee") that will hand them money for new TVs and ugg boots and guarantee a few more years sucking at the welfare teat. And they're thinking that this bullsh*t has gotta stop and soon. Furthermore thanks to the vote grabbing speading policies of the ALP there's going to be some hurt involved to stop this country going down the same road as (for example) Greece.
I reckon the thinking voter of Australia (aka the much talked about "silent majority) would make it a point to get out there and vote, and it would be your average deadsh*t that wouldn't be bothered.

Clare Prop 3rd Jan 2013 00:59

WITW, family and friends in the UK at the last election told me that the queues to vote were so long that a lot of people never got the chance, the polling stations closed at a certain time and even if you had been queueing for hours you still didn't get the chance to vote. Other places ran out of ballot papers, the turnout was so much higher than expected.

They had had enough of Blair/Brown and their lies, fabian ideals and social engineering just as we have had a gutful here.

IMO voting should be made easier but not compulsory. Luckily being a pilot I can do a postal vote but the occasions I have actually gone to the polling station have been horrible experiences, with pushy aggressive idiots trying to push "how to vote" cards at you (I was totally disgusted when I saw that at the first Aus election I voted in, and I still can't believe it is actually legal!!) and long queues, nowhere to park, screaming kids etc. There should be a better way in this day and age. An iPhone app, for example :ok:


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