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500N 22nd Oct 2012 22:00

Did anyone see the article about the fight over Penny Wong
not getting the top billing on the voting ticket ?

I would have thought that even the Labor party would know to
stick with names everyone knows for the next election !

Croozin 22nd Oct 2012 22:34

...another boat today.

CoodaShooda 22nd Oct 2012 23:28


I would have thought that even the Labor party would know to
stick with names everyone knows for the next election !
Really depends on what they are known for. :E

Abbott showed a bit of subtlety this morning with his jibe about the current Cabinet not understanding the financial pressures on families with new babies. ABC Radio gave Ms Gillard a free kick at it but I don't think she carried the day. She seemed to get more tense and angry as the interview progressed. What is the ABC doing? :eek:

Buster Hyman 23rd Oct 2012 00:06

She's probably angry because they are not towing the Party line.

Andu 23rd Oct 2012 00:19


Abbott showed a bit of subtlety this morning with his jibe about the current Cabinet not understanding the financial pressures on families with new babies
ABC Labor luvvie Linda Mothram (sp?) on 702 this morning and the Labor luvvie she was interviewing this morning both outraged at this "sexist" remark by Tony Abbott. Wayne Swan apparently has three children, Penny Wong has a child. The only person in the gummit without a child is Julia, so therefore the comment was directed at her (of course it bloody well was, Linda, duh!) and therefore, it was "sexist".

Any news on the pirate boat? Only a small number on this morning's boat. Could it be the one? If it is, cats among the canaries for Chris Bowen, I suspect. To save themselves the embarrassment of maybe sending them back to a country with the death penalty, (or even [gasp!!] just sending anyone back!!!), I wouldn't put it past Labor to very studiously not ask.

Croozin 23rd Oct 2012 00:43


Any news on the pirate boat?
Fom today's Andrew Bolt blog:


Reader Sush notes a news item from Sri Lanka on the trawler allegedly hijacked and on its way here:

Among the hijackers who are believed to be coming to Australia are notorious fraudster and his wife and underworld leader who is wanted by police.

This is the translation. Please note these people are from south. And Sinhalese people. These people are nothing to do with the war as it was in North....

People who fled to Australia in recent days had beaten Fishermen who went fishing from “kudawella” and have taken their boat. News close to Police says among these people there is a person from south who alleged for operating an illegal financial organisation and who is facing “heavy charges“ and his wife.

Also police have uncovered among the people who fled these is first level underworld figure as well. However police have said before they release any more information about this person they need more information and they are still working on it.

So far 4 people have been arrested regarding this incident. Police also mentioned among the arrested people there is a navy soldier from “Veeravila” navy. .. According to the police sources there are 12 people who have been fled.
Sounds like today's boat might well be the one. In the real world, an at sea rendevous with the Sri Lankan Navy would be organised and their feet wouldn't touch Australian soil. But that's in the real world, not Kevin and Julia's World, the one we find ourself currently living in. Stand by for millions of Australian taxpayers' dollars being spent over the next five years on appeals etc for this lot.

Andu 23rd Oct 2012 21:14

Oh dear....


CONTROVERSIAL secret polling calculating the boost to Labor from Kevin Rudd returning to the leadership was commissioned by the Queensland branch of United Voice, sparking a bitter fight within the left-wing union.

Labor's own pollster, UMR, refused the job because of its contractual ties with the ALP. The polling was done by Galaxy.
United Voice's national branch is angry about the potentially destabilising move but the state branch - fighting Queensland government job cuts - argues it is important to quantify the electoral impact of a federal leadership change.

Formerly known as the Liquor, Hospitality and Miscellaneous Workers Union, it represents 130,000 members in a wide range of occupations including hospitality, childcare, teachers aides, aged care, property services, health, manufacturing, ambulance workers (in some states) and community services.

The polling calculated the impact of a return by Mr Rudd in four marginal electorates held by strong Gillard supporters - Blair and Moreton in Queensland, Greenway in NSW and Deakin in Victoria.

It found Mr Rudd would boost Labor's primary vote by 11 per cent, by as much as 18 per cent in some electorates, by 17 per cent among swinging voters, by 13 per cent among men and by 9 per cent among women.


Read more: Union split by secret polling for Rudd
Surely this says less about Rudd being the better candidate than how incredibly bad Gillard is as PM? Even in the eyes of rusted-on Laborites.

MTOW 23rd Oct 2012 22:48

NSW police currently raiding Craig Thomson's house on the Central Coast "on behalf of Victoria police". He's had four+ years to make sure any incriminating evidence is destroyed (I hasten to add - if there is or ever was any incriminating evidence), so if they find anything, you'd have to say the *** deserves to be convicted.

Croozin 23rd Oct 2012 23:28

North Carolina Registers Over 583 Democrat Votes Over the Age of 112 - Charlotte Conservative | Examiner.com


Perhaps in an effort to promote North Carolina as one of the healthiest States in the Nation ... In a radio interview with local WBT Anchor Tara Servatious, Susan reports that she has been keeping track of the number of votes in North Carolina of individuals over the age of 110 years and apparently we have quite a few, over 410 of the 110 year olds--to be exact-- actually voted via absentee ballot on October the 28th. Yes indeed, now it would appear that good ole NC has the market cornered on the Centenarian vote.

At latest count, Susan has garnered a total Absentee Ballot vote of over 2,660 people over the age of 110

When peering a little more deeply at the numbers we find that an astounding 2,374 people between the ages of 94 and 100 have already voted in the NC election to date. While an even more astounding 832 votes came from those individuals aged 112.
.
I wonder how these figures would compare with Labor voters in some electorates here in Australia?

Worrals in the wilds 24th Oct 2012 01:49

Gold, Buster. Wish I'd thought of it. :ok:

Surely this says less about Rudd being the better candidate than how incredibly bad Gillard is as PM? Even in the eyes of rusted-on Laborites.
And Rudd is still relatively popular in Queensland, particularly when compared to Gillard, who's never really captured the public imagination up here. A bit lefty, IMO. Anyway, good for the Missos. They're entitled to have a poll. At least they actually listen to their members and don't fleece them at every turn, which is more than can be said for some of their sister unions. :(
From the same article:

The union's national secretary, Louise Tarrant, is understood to be angry with the secretary of the Queensland branch, Gary Bullock, over the polling.
Ms Tarrant told the Herald it was not the role of unions to become involved in leadership issues. ''Our position is that our job is to represent our members and advocate for them and their aspirations,'' she said.

That's just so funny that it's cute. :E:E:E She's got a short memory if she can't remember the last state election. :suspect:

500N 24th Oct 2012 02:18

"And Rudd is still relatively popular in Queensland, particularly when compared to Gillard, who's never really captured the public imagination up here."

Well, you would never have guessed would you !

Rudd - Banana bender - of course he is going to have a high level
of support in Qld, even if he was a prick, he'd still have Qld's support.

And Gillard is viewed as being from SA - so a crow eater - or Victorian
- which in the eyes of a Qld'er is probably worse !!!

I would never have Expected Gillard to get on in Qld, for the reasons above
and as has been pointed out, she is a lefty.

.

Buster Hyman 24th Oct 2012 02:48

Lefty? If Stalin were alive today, he'd tell her to tone it down a little!!!

Worrals in the wilds 24th Oct 2012 03:25

Correct. She even scares a lot of other Labor Party people. :eek:

A friend of mine has a theory that the reason Gillard let the Greens have so much power is because she secretly agrees with most of their manifesto. Why the caucus copped it is another matter, but it's basically the same caucus that copped Rudd's tanties without flogging him, so I guess the answer is simple; because they're wussy. :rolleyes:

Whether Rudd continues to keep the support of his electorate is a hotly debated topic; personally I think he will, though maybe with a reduced majority. Swan is looking very shaky if the polls and word 'round the Lilley checkouts / pubs/ RSLs are anything to go by.

Croozin 24th Oct 2012 08:32


A friend of mine has a theory that the reason Gillard let the Greens have so much power is because she secretly agrees with most of their manifesto.
I've thought that almost from the very start of her tenure at the top of the Labor sh*t pile.

When this is all over, there are going to be a couple of ballbiter books published, hopefully telling what really happened behind the scenes during the Gillard years rather than sympathetic Left Wing re-writes of history attempting to turn her into another version of the "poor, persecuted, misunderstood" Gough Whitlam.

Some (many?) would say she should end up stripped of her parliamentary pension and in gaol, but I can't see the System allowing that to happen, no matter how damning the evidence that might eventually come to light over the AWU/Slater & Gordon business might prove to be. Somehow, I can't see her maintaining a very high public profile post politics. (Or am I allowing hope to intrude there?)

Something overseas, the UN perhaps? If she did that, she'd have to drop her "unique" pseudo Australian working class accent to be understood.

Maybe then we'll see "the real Julia" at last. I'm not sure I care a toss what or who the real Julia turns out to be, just so long as she is nowhere near having anything to do with me and the running of this country.

My fantasy - [I know it's a fantasy] - is that even the good voters of Altona see her for what she is and vote her out of her seat as well as the Lodge.

Worrals in the wilds 24th Oct 2012 08:47

Good ol' Kevvy. Still trucking. He's like John Farnham isn't he? Never, ever gives up.
Kevin Rudd calls for T-shirt design to rival the Kevin 07 logo | The Courier-Mail

How about Kevin 13? Only Queensland is Keen.
Or maybe a picture of Rudd with a nice dreamtime motif?
http://news.aboriginalartdirectory.c...ers_image1.jpg
He could replace the middle sister.
Suggestions welcome! :E:}

allan907 24th Oct 2012 08:50

All this "real Julia" thing is just absolute crap. The 'real' Jooliar is on display every single day.

She's a woman who would do anything and say anything to be in power. She will lie, cheat and scam the system to stay on the top which is exactly how she got there. She's more concerned about herself than the country and she's studiously avoiding facing the fact that the country does not want her - nor her band of screeching witches that she has as a cheer squad.

Did I mention lying and cheating??

allan907 24th Oct 2012 09:10

This might be acceptable wear...

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c9...07/Kevin13.jpg

Worrals in the wilds 24th Oct 2012 09:16


All this "real Julia" thing is just absolute crap. The 'real' Jooliar is on display every single day.
I agree.

Of course the whole 'real' thing was parodied way back in 2000 by Eminem (and probably earlier than that by other artists) but I doubt that the cheersquad listen to Eminem. Far too misogynistic, even using the old pre-doublespeak definition ably removed by the Macquarie Dictionary...:\

Pity, because despite being a proper sexist (cheerleaders take note, it's never hurt his sales despite the regular and predictable outraged responses) he's got a point. Also the opening scene looks frighteningly like Gillard and Roxon adressing the ministers...or maybe it's just me. :}

Andu 24th Oct 2012 21:36

More on ‘that’ pirated boat on its way here from Sri lanka.


ARREST warrants on charges of attempted murder and robbery have been issued for 14 asylum seekers on a pirated fishing boat which is thought to be headed for Australia.
Sri Lankan police have also called in Interpol in the hunt for the group that bound the hands of crew, cut one man's throat and then tossed at least two deckhands into the sea south of Sri Lanka.


Customs is preparing for the boat to arrive in Australian waters and will detain the group for further investigation of "any alleged criminal acts".
Meanwhile, the government revealed yesterday three asylum seeker boats arrived at Cocos Islands on Tuesday carrying 41, 37 and 18 passengers. They were intercepted after being spotted by a RAAF patrol plane.
And a fourth boat with 49 people on board was located east of Christmas Island yesterday.
It was intercepted by HMAS Albany after being spotted by a surveillance aircraft after an earlier request for assistance from the vessel.
The passengers from all four boats will be taken to Christmas Island after basic health and security checks.
More than 200 asylum boats have arrived this year.
Four boats since Tuesday? Until this article in ‘The Australian’, I haven’t heard a word about any of them on the MSM.


..and... (are we surprised?)

Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian



New mine tax fails to raise a cent

Dennis Shanahan, Political editor

THE budget surplus projection has received an immediate body blow, with the new mining tax raising zero revenue in its first three months.

None of Australia's biggest miners - BHP Billiton, Rio Tinto or Xstrata - has any liability under the minerals resource rent tax so far in 2012-13 and the government did not receive any revenue by Monday's payment deadline.

Clare Prop 25th Oct 2012 07:24

OK...let me try to understand this...

It's justified for us to fork out tens of thousands for the unelected wife of the unelected foreign minister to travel around the world, "talking to women" because being born in Malaysia of Chinese and Indian parents she "represents Australia's muticultural society."

Er, can't we just call her "australian" without sticking all kinds of ethnic labels on her?

Would an English born Caucasian (like myself) wife be less representative of Australia and therefore less worthy to have taxpayer funded jaunts around the world then?

And what if we had a female forign minister, would their hubbies be flown around so they could go around "talking to men" or only if they were anything other than caucasian?

I'm just trying to work out which bit of this whole Bob Carr thing I should be taking offence to :E

:confused::confused:


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