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Flying Binghi 14th Jun 2013 06:46

Via Alan Moran...

The Coalition would reduce the $20 billion a year funding on carbon madness by a half to two-thirds. Not a bad start to ridding us forever of the cruel and pernicious impost introduced at the behest of green guerillas, well-funded business lobbyists, gullible politicians and public servants creating career options.

I have a piece identifying the array of different measures and their costs in the Herald Sun today. Climate Change Shadow Greg Hunt has announced that the Coalition in Government will replace the $9 billion a year carbon tax with Direct Action – measures of doubtful worth but coming to only...
continues - Global Warming Immiserising Australia: Abolish Carbon Tax and Windmill Subsidies | Catallaxy Files


parabellum 14th Jun 2013 08:02

Poor old Arnie S. Of all the towns in Australia they give him the keys to Melton!:(

Saltie 14th Jun 2013 08:36

Melton? Bloody hell.

On to something else:


THE third federal MP salary boost in 16 months will cost taxpayers $50 million over four years.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard's salary will increase by $11,908 to $507,338, earning her $2709 a week more than she was earning 16 months ago.

Ms Gillard, whose leadership will be under intense pressure when parliament resumes next week, is now in a higher salary bracket than US President Barack Obama.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott, who complained about his salary cut after the Coalition lost office in 2007 , will see his pay rise by $8473 to $360,990.

Deputy PM Wayne Swans pay will rise by $9389 to $400,016 while Speaker Anna Burke gets an extra $8015 to $341,477. A cabinet ministers pay rises by $7901 to $336,599 while shadow ministers get an extra $5725 to take their pay to $243,912.

Scandal-prone backbencher Craig Thomson and former Speaker Peter Slipper are among those being rewarded with the 2.4 per cent rise, taking their base salary from $190,550 to $195,123.

The July 1 pay rise will mean federal MPs have seen their base pay increase by $54,220 since March 2012 , although they have lost a series of perks, including around the world study leave trips and gold card entitlements.

But the bill for taxpayers is considerable, the latest pay rise meaning the budget will have to find an extra $12.25 million annually to cover the three salary hikes - or around $50 million over the budget forward estimates.

That would be enough to employ at least 300 carers to help the Government roll out its national disability care scheme, or an extra 200 teachers to meet its Gonski reforms. It would also pay for an extra 342 nurses on average salaries of $35,000.
Does anyone feel we're getting value for OUR money from either side of this lot?

Fliegenmong 14th Jun 2013 08:36

Surprised the MSM/Murdochracy even reported this!!!

Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian

Announcing Asian plans without first consulting with the Nation concerned?? :E

Sounds like 'TA' might have done an 'AJ' .... :eek:

I guess they'll end up paying Bambang....in 'aid'...... :(

Flying Binghi 14th Jun 2013 08:42

'mincing poodle'
(2009) Deputy Prime Minister Julia Gillard mocked the Coalition for choosing Christopher Pyne as the manager of opposition business, rather than Tony Abbott, who did the job in Government.

"In a choice between macho and mincing I would have gone for macho myself," she said.

Gillard labels Pyne 'mincing poodle' - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

h/t, Watty via Bolt

Swartznegger comes out with some doozys...

“I can look at a chick who’s a little out of shape and if she turns me on, I won’t hesitate to date her. If she’s a good f ... she can weigh 150 pounds, I don’t care,”

PM lacks total recall | Daily Telegraph Miranda Devine Blog

......:oh: ..........:)


Buster Hyman 14th Jun 2013 09:26

Poor old Arnie S. Of all the towns in Australia they give him the keys to Melton!http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...lies/sowee.gif
Or, as the rest of the country calls them...Crowbars. :rolleyes:

Cactusjack 14th Jun 2013 11:53

Radio station G. A. Y
And the comedy continues! Now we have a a radio station DJ sacked because while interviewing the Carbon Queen on air he alluded to the fact that 'First man' Tim might be gay? Poor DJ was sacked for proposing this theory to the Gimger ninja live on air! And my oh my, she wasn't too happy either. It gets funnier by the day. And today, after all the schools had banned Labor pollies from entering their properties Kevvy gets invited into a school, plus they give him a school uniform blue tie to wear, which he dutifully wears straight away. Message to Joolia - you are as popular as crotch rot! But as for Kev, well the crowd went nuts, cheering, hollering, chanting, it was amazing - and not a vegemite sandwich to be seen! If Kev took off his shirt and grabbed a guitar he could fill an auditorium, the crowds love him. 'All heil the Messiah'!
Kev is revelling in all this. It would seem that he is 'da man', Mr Popular, and it is through him only that they might be able to win a few seats still, and that must be killing Joolia. What's a Welsh carrot top to do? What's kevin07 going to do next to cause angst and embarrassment to the Labor minions? For him revenge is addictive, sweeter than honey. Every move he makes causes his boss and her supporters to duck, hide, shake with fear as to what further erosion of opinion poll percentage points he will cost them. Love him or loathe him, Rudd is popular, all he needs to do now is wear a blue tie and pash another man and it will be all over, Australian voters will hand him the keys to the Lodge while Joolia and Tim are sent packing.
Oh Joolia, you really underestimated Kev didn't you? He has been picking off your faceless men one by one, then he turned his attention on the parties strength and experience - he took out Crean, a career Pollie that puts Jules to shame, goooone. Now she has nothing left but a bunch of panicking public servants in complete disarray and imploding publicly! Meanwhile the silver haired fox with devils horns sits back quietly, laughing as the house of cards rapidly falls down around their ears....... You couldn't buy front row tickets to this event if you wanted too! So funny.

vulcanised 14th Jun 2013 11:58

Thanks for nothing, Oz!
For reasons best known to itself (probably just to irritate), the BBC decided to broadcast that asinine 'gay hairdresser' exchange on R4 news this morning.

CoodaShooda 14th Jun 2013 12:20

Did anyone who heard the exchange hear her actually deny the question?

She doesn't seem able to give a straight answer to any question.

Fliegenmong 14th Jun 2013 12:29

Good post CactusJack! You're right on the money, and while we're here, Alan Jones asking TA if his wife is a Lesbian is a fair question too!

Seriously, questioning the Prime Minister of Australia's partners sexuality is fair and common comment on lowest common denominator radio?

Oops, sorry, kinda answers itself that one!!

Have the rabidly pro howard supporters so diminished the office of Oz PM (Beyond even that which the red witch has already done)

Sad indeed.....Anyway.....posted earlier.....how imbecilic & incompetent is this...........

Surprised the MSM/Murdochracy even reported this!!!

Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian

Announcing Asian plans without first consulting with the Nation concerned??

Sounds like 'TA' might have done an 'AJ' ....

I guess they'll end up paying Bambang....in 'aid'...
... :suspect::suspect:

Comical ineptitude is excusable of course, when committed by the 'right' side of politics...... :rolleyes::ugh::rolleyes::ugh:

Flying Binghi 14th Jun 2013 13:36

I guess they'll end up paying Bambang....in 'aid'...
The answer will be found in Brazil..:cool:


sisemen 14th Jun 2013 14:09

For once I think I might have to agree with Fleigs - Sattler's "interview" was beyond the pale (pail??).

However.........by her actions she probably brought it upon herself. The one good thing that comes out of the tawdry affair (and you can read what you want into that!) is that she'll hopefully be very reluctant to come out west again until she's thrown out in September.

Andu 14th Jun 2013 22:58

I agree that Sattler's "interview"(!) was way beyond the pale.

However, it brings two points to mind:

(1) The Political Correctness Police, heavily represented by The Left side of politics, have been demanding for years now that we boring, reactionary heterosexuals accept that the "gay" (let's use the correct term - homosexual) lifestyle is normal and should be accepted without reservation. I cite the rather strident current same sex marriage debate and numerous cases where highly politicized school teachers push the line to quite young children that homosexuality is a lifestyle choice available to them. So if it's all so normal and unremarkable, why the outrage at the suggestion that Tim might swing both ways?

(2) I'd never heard any suggestion before the Sattler interview that Tim batted for the other side. The scurrilous rumours that have been doing the rounds for years now regarding his relationship with JEG is that he's supposed to be her "beard", a convenient male to provide her with "top cover" to disguise something it would possibly be better left unsaid here. I'm sure Sattler has received some of those same emails I have over the last few years alleging that someone else in TM's family comes into the equation. So, if an alternative lifestyle is all so normal (as we are repeatedly assured should be the case by the PC Police), I wonder, since he assured us he was not asking the question himself, "but just repeating what people are saying on the internet", why didn't he ask Ms Gillard another, if equally outrageous, question?

7x7 15th Jun 2013 08:38

Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian

'Frauds' granted refugee status as determination process breaks down
BY:GREG SHERIDAN, FOREIGN EDITOR From: The Australian June 15, 2013

AUSTRALIA'S refugee determination process has broken down completely, admitting large numbers of people whose claims to refugee status are fraudulent.

The claims come from a former senior Immigration Department official who says the system favours those who tell lies over those who tell the truth, is easily scammed and has become utterly dysfunctional.

“Having considerable experience interviewing and assessing boat arrival claims, I can confidently say ... that we are approving large numbers of people who are fabricating claims,” he wrote in an unpublished account of the process, obtained by The Weekend Australian…

The Weekend Australian also interviewed a former member of the Refugee Review Tribunal, who ... said that asylum-seekers on Christmas Island told him they had simply copied their claims from other applicants who had been successful.

The former tribunal member said that transcripts of court cases in which asylum-seeker appeals had been upheld circulated widely on Christmas Island so that claimants, and their advocates, could see what testimony had been successful.

“I would sometimes receive a completely compelling story that was impossible to refuse,” the former tribunal member said. “The problem is I would receive 100 other identical stories with only the names changed."…

He also reported that middle-class Iranian asylum-seekers often arrived in Christmas Island barely a week after leaving Tehran and exhibited an aggressive “entitlement mentality”.

SOPS 16th Jun 2013 08:21

I'm going out on a limb here, but I have a feeling another challenge may be on the cards this week, or maybe early next week.

Julia Gillard told to stand her ground in Kevin Rudd challenge | Perth Now

Not that I want Juliar to go, I want her left alone to sink in her own huge mess.

Cactusjack 16th Jun 2013 08:41

SOPS, I agree with you. They have 2 weeks of parliament left, this period is also known internally as the 'killing zone'. If its going to happen it will certainly be within the next fortnight. The current polling indicates what we all know - they are history, not even Kev in a blue tie can save them. However a fresh leader that the voters like may minimise some damage, even save a couple of seats.
My guess is Shorten will tap her on the shoulder and try to end it nicely. She is as popular as dog shit on the sole of your shoe, the party has no choice unless they are sociopaths as well and want to watch their party lose! Combet is another potential leader that could rise from the ashes, I guess they are all number crunching as we speak. Kev's popularity internally is as toxic as The Carbon Queens externally so I just don't see him being asked to stand again.

One thing is for certain, come September Labor will finally pay the reaper for all their sins of the past few years. It will be a history making defeat, a whitewash, and hopefully the end of the worst period in Labor's history, it will be one for the kids, the up and coming politicians, the historians and the analyst to examine and learn from.

sisemen 16th Jun 2013 09:31

She won't go without a fight - certainly not to cede it to Krudd. And therein lies the problem for the "faceless men". Can they afford all the negativity surrounding yet another knifing of a PM?

One thing's for sure it's going to be an interesting period ahead.

Buster Hyman 16th Jun 2013 09:32

"The end of the worst period in Labors history"

So true. They need to get back to their grassroots & avoid, at all cost, any future dealings with the Watermelons in order to restore their credibility!

Worrals in the wilds 16th Jun 2013 10:24

Agree Buster. They are an unethical, unprincipled and (perhaps worst of all :E) a politically unskilled disgrace.

I hope they don't toss all the blame to the Greens or Gillard though; plenty of it should be laid squarely on the current ALP hierarchy. They allowed the cavalcade of :mad: ups to happen, and when we're subjected to endless sympathetic ABC docos with ex Labor pollies :{ about nasty Gillard and the Greens leading them to the gates of oblivion, let's remember that every single blight has been Caucus Approved. :yuk:

Andu 16th Jun 2013 11:33

"Never complain, never explain and never resign" is an old truism in politics.

With her constant playing of the misogyny/poor oppressed female me card, Julia Gillard could not be said to have followed the first dictum, but I think it's safe to say she's set in stone with the other two.

What's the old song? Two out of three ain't bad.

She'll hang on with grim determination to the bitter end. I for one find myself hoping that for Julia Gillard and the whole sorry mess that is today's Labor Party, it proves to be a particularly bitter end indeed.

Flying Binghi 16th Jun 2013 11:42

Heh, he may need plan B yet..:)

"...Rudd is getting a bit too cocky for his own good, neglecting his home seat in a bid for national greatness. Former Australian Medical Association president Dr Bill Glasson has been on his own quiet blitz of the area, doorknocking, hand-shaking, listening and just being there, every day..."

Kevin Rudd?s opponent quietly chips away | Daily Telegraph Miranda Devine Blog


sisemen 16th Jun 2013 16:50

Oops! It's not going to go away is it?

Conservative commentator Piers Akerman has added fuel to the fire ignited by shock-jock Howard Sattler over the sexuality of the Prime Minister's partner.

Akerman, who appeared on the ABC's Insider program on Sunday morning, commented that suggestions Ms Gillard's partner Tim Mathieson is gay have been circulating around the Canberra press gallery since 2010.

Mr Akerman shocked his co-panellists when he said "a lot of people in the Canberra gallery have been saying the same thing (as Sattler)".

chuboy 17th Jun 2013 00:37

Who cares if he is gay or not! Honestly, save it for Woman's Day... :yuk:

HS was rightly sacked. The shock-jock apologists will insist there is no harm in asking whether someone is gay. Well believe it or not there is, and even children are taught so. Just because there's nothing wrong with being gay doesn't mean it's polite or appropriate to dig your nose in someone else's business. Never mind that he was interviewing the Prime Minister, who is obviously an important and busy person, and wasting that time asking her personal questions instead of ones relevant to the upcoming election. He blatantly ignored the most basic lessons in manners when dealing with a dignitary and I support the decision to give him the boot.

His conduct absolutely demeaned the position of PM. If any of my children ever spoke to someone the way HS spoke to JG I would be absolutely mortified.

500N 17th Jun 2013 00:52

"Akerman, who appeared on the ABC's Insider program on Sunday morning, commented that suggestions Ms Gillard's partner Tim Mathieson is gay have been circulating around the Canberra press gallery since 2010.

Mr Akerman shocked his co-panellists when he said "a lot of people in the Canberra gallery have been saying the same thing (as Sattler)"."

A a pollie said on the radio the other day, this is the Press reporting on
the Press, Press scuttlebutt, rumour and inuendo with no one else asking
the same questions. So you have journos chasing journos and journo
generated stories !

Of all the questions the shock jock could have asked with all that has
been going on, he asked one that I doubt many wanted to know anyway.

sisemen 17th Jun 2013 01:43


The Fairfax Media/Neilsen poll released on Monday shows Labor's support continues to slide, led entirely by a seven per cent exit of men.
Under the two-party preferred vote, the Coalition romps home 57 per cent (up three points) to 43 per cent (down three points).
Labor's primary vote, which had been in the low 30s, has gone from bad to worse to 29 per cent with the Coalition at 47 per cent - a whopping 18 point lead which would wipe out 35 Labor MPs.

Ms Gillard's standing as the preferred prime minister also headed south giving her her lowest approval rating in a year - down five points to 41 per cent compared to Opposition leader Tony Abbott's 50 per cent, which is up four points.

Mr Rudd faced a media scrum at Canberra airport when he arrived in the capital and was repeatedly asked if he would stand for the leadership if his colleagues asked him to.
"My purpose in being here in Canberra this week and my purpose in travelling around the country and supporting Labor members and candidates is very basic," he said.
"It is to do everything I physically can to stop (Opposition Leader Tony) Abbott from becoming the next prime minister."
Mr Rudd referred to his previous statement in March that under no circumstances would he return to the ALP leadership.
"I have nothing further to add," he said.
Mr Rudd also did not respond when asked if he had had any meetings with Gillard supporter and Labor right powerbroker Bill Shorten.

Coalition frontbencher Christopher Pyne said a leader change won't solve Labor's problems.

"You can put a lick of paint on a haunted house but it'll still be the rat-infested, white-anted haunted house that it was before," he said.

500N 17th Jun 2013 01:49

I am surprised none of Julia's advisers advise her that playing the
sexist card and going after Abbott and having a go at men in general
was going to turn off a large number of people who vote for her.

Pinky the pilot 17th Jun 2013 03:31

Just hard on the ALPBC radio that a 'new poll' has suggested that if Rudd was returned to being PM that after preferences were distributed it would be Liberals/Labor at a 50/50 split!:ooh:


500N 17th Jun 2013 03:35

It shows that someone / the media is trying to do some serious talking up
of Rudd over the last few weeks.

Buster Hyman 17th Jun 2013 03:48

So, the question of ABC political bias is not the pertinent one now, it's which faction of the ABC controls the bias.

Andu 17th Jun 2013 04:06

chuboy, I agree 100% with your sentiments re the inappropriateness of Howard Sattler's question to the Prime Minister. However, where you are not wrong with the following statement -

His conduct absolutely demeaned the position of PM
I think, to be more accurate, you should have said -

His conduct absolutely has further demeaned the position of PM
- for it has to be said that the one clear achievement of Julia Gillard, an achievement no one can deny, is that she has thoroughly demeaned the role and the status of Prime Minister.

SOPS 17th Jun 2013 07:21

And a record 7% drop in the male vote for labor. The whole gender war/blue tie thing is working out really well isn't Julie?

sisemen 17th Jun 2013 08:42

You do the right thing....employ an out-of-work Jock on a 457 visa and all he does is screw things up for you. Ungrateful bar steward. :}

SOPS 17th Jun 2013 09:55

I'm actually a bit surprised. Day one back in Canberra, all the polls heading south at a rapid rate of knots, and (it appears) not a rumble of a challenge yet.

Maybe, it some sort of Stockholm Syndrome. They know they are doomed, so they just intend to hold on tight, shut their eyes and wait for the crash at the bottom.

Or, they are simply out of ideas and have finally worked out that Mr 457 visa media man, just keeps coming up with crocks of s:mad:t., and the cupboard of good ideas and vote winning policy is actually empty.

I can tell you one thing, it wouldn't matter now if Juliar offered to pay off everyone's mortgage, the promise of eternal life and peace among all men (persons), it wouldn't matter what she said , the electorate is no longer listening.

RJM 17th Jun 2013 10:30

What's going on is fairly easy to work out.

Gillard is no good at her job. She was created by a group of union heavies who were utterly mistaken in what they were doing.

Some of the people around her have been trying desperately to change horses while others have been hanging on hoping for a miracle spin from the likes of McTernan.

No one person or group has the clout to steer the whole hopeless administration in any one direction, with the result that the whole rickety edifice has been lurching around in circles, haemhorraging votes at every turn.

The chaos is further amplifiied by the different slants of various media reports and by the conflicting attitudes of ministers and spokespeople whenever asked: their replies are governmed by their own hopes or fears as each tries to second-guess what will happen next to their own advantage.

There's no-one in charge. It's like Brownian motion.

It looks chaotic from the outside and it must be even more chaotic from inside.

Consider just one recent balls-up. Gillard's 'Women for Gillard' movement - a desperate me too of the organisation that worked for Obama - has so far scored a 2% rise in the women's vote (within the statistical margin for error) but has lost 7% of the male vote.

What's more, the woman who has agreed to lead the new, self-destructive women movement is Chloe Shorten, the wife of Bill Shorten who is the boss of the AWU faction which keeps Gillard in power and is according to all reports about to withdraw that support. Chloe Shorten is also the daughter of Australia's Governor-General, to whom Gillard will have to report if she can no longer form a government.

How did that happen??

Anything seems possible in the completely dysfunctional Labor World, where the two great achievements Gillard is trumpeting are an education reform package that shovels cash to education employees and a disability pension scheme designed to twang the heart strings of the gullible but which isn't budgeted for and doesn't start for another 6 years.

The only calm in the swirling storm seems to be Gillard, who has never acknowledged any of the problems facing Labor as anything other than 'distractions', and who may very well be insane.

Fliegenmong 17th Jun 2013 10:39

I'm not at all entirely sure I perceive an all pervasive 'ALPBC' as such, I've seen ABC presenters severely grill ALP members, and I've seen ABC presenters offer an alternate view to all that the MSM offer,...........

......and I can't help but wonder if some would not prefer having a media Sans ABC that way you reliably ensure a North Korea like media, an 'Our Dear Leader' like abbott.......without accountability.....you know Kim-Il howard would approve, he wanted it in his tenure....

SOPS 17th Jun 2013 10:49

I was going to make the same comment about Gillard, RJM. She doesn't , in public at least, seem to have any idea about what is actually happening to her and her party. It seems like she has shut off from the world, and is just heading down some pre determined path that she won't ( and possibly can't ) change, not matter what the cost.

And, for the time being at least , it seems that the rest of her party is quite happy to stand behind her and watch it happen.

Very strange time indeed.

Worrals in the wilds 17th Jun 2013 11:53

Mr Rudd faced a media scrum at Canberra airport when he arrived in the capital...
Presumably so would Justin Bieber. Doensn't mean anyone wants him as PM...:bored:

There's no-one in charge. It's like Brownian motion.
They're :mad:ed and they know it. For even the lowly rank and file sceptics, this is a hard position to accept. It's like being six years old and finding out that Santa Claus is really just your uncle in a red suit with a pillow down the front :ouch:. You believe in the cause. You fully accept that Santa Claus is a great concept that benefits everyone; the retailers, the churches and you as a six year old who gets lots of gifts in a pillow case on Christmas morning.

You know that when you publically accept that Santa Claus is just your uncle and the powers that be (ie your parents) realise you know that, then there won't be so many benefits, because they'll stiff you with the line 'well you're a grown up now, you know that presents are only for the kiddies...' and you'll be fighting for every dollar in future. :\:}

Given some of the bilge coming from the business council types our figurative parents will be aiming to put us to work sweeping chimneys, running looms and mining the small tunnels adults can't fit down (all with no penalties or pesky WH&S red tape, we should be Glad To Get the Work) so it will be a great few years ahead while they continue to graciously accept their zillion dollar bonuses and the Shareholders keep benefiting. :ouch::yuk:

For all that, never think for one minute that the core of the union movement is represented by this week's media friendly mouthpieces. Paul Howes' weekend Telegraph article about how everything's coming up roses was consigned to the rubbish bin with excessive force :yuk:. I'd say more, but I'd probably get sued and that would be annoying...:} I'm thinking of doing a range of bumper stickers saying "Honk if you're being sued by Paul Howes' but I'd probably get sued...:}:}:} In deference to Cactusjack's feelings about his would-be girlfriend I'll speak no more. :suspect:

Take a look at me, I'm yesterday's hero... Sorry, got singing there. :hmm:

IMO running the women's card is always a massive risk, because it's guaranteed to alienate at least 45% of the population (allowing for male sympathisers). From the 50% women you have to count on full support, and I don't think Gillard is getting anything close to that, even from lefty females.

I don't think any reasonable Australian supported the Perth radio attack (juvenile and disrespectful of the Prime Minister; whoever that may be they're still the Prime Minister, and IMO she should have up and left) but there's a big leap between saying 'that sucks' and accepting that a few anti-female loud-mouths represent the Coalition, particularly when the deputy leader is female.

Also despite what many left wing women think, the A Issue is not one that generates automatic female support. Many women are at least nominally anti A; some passionately so (particularly Catholic women, who are still a very big demographic despite the lack of devisively excessive clothing and recent media hysterics). Playing with the A is like juggling nuclear warheads; you don't really want to go there. Better left in the backwaters of state health policy where it can be quietly cloaked with 'best interests of the mother' statements and therefore ignored. :suspect:

For a change, let's hear the PM talk about federal issues; the budget, defence and the national economy. Let's hear less about state issues like health, education and infrastructure. All these things are their problem, and I'm deadly sick of hearing federal pollies waffle on about things that aren't in their domain to the detriment of things that are. The MSM keeps proclaiming that Australians are confused about which level of government controls what: I don't think they are. I think each level of government would like to believe that... and I think they're wrong.

sisemen 17th Jun 2013 12:30

IMO she should have up and left)
Got it in one! And that's yet another misjudgement on her part. That's not excusing Sattler but can you see anyone else sitting there and letting that go on without making some kind of rebuttal and walking out?

If she really was serious about the misogyny thing then that would have been pure gold handed to her on a gold plated gold plate. She misjudged and she blew it.

Buster Hyman 17th Jun 2013 12:43

Fleigs. Without the rose coloured glasses, its quite easy to see. The difference between the ABC bias & Murdoch, for example, is that Murdoch will switch sides when he chooses to (read; profitable to), whereas the ABC are shining beacons of consistancy.

I'd love it if all media outlets reported fairly & in such a balanced way that all sides had equal opportunity to make their point. The Victorian ALP made it an art form to get their heads on the telly for even the most mundane of events, but you couldn't watch ANY news, without seeing the Premier at least three times. Big Ted's downfall, or part thereof, was that he wasn't as media savvy. Perhaps he wanted to spare us from the nonsense stories & rhetoric, but in the end, the proles were used to seeing their Premier giving a 3 second grab on even the Crossword results.

For my 2 cents, I think the "equal time" in an election should apply at all times. The Govt. said this...and the Opposition said this... Next story...

Worrals in the wilds 17th Jun 2013 13:03

For my 2 cents, I think the "equal time" in an election should apply at all times. The Govt. said this...and the Opposition said this... Next story...
That would be awesome. :ok:
Likewise, we'd see articles headlined with sentences like 'Suspected murder at Brookfield' rather than 'Why did this Mum have to die'? :ugh::ugh::ugh: (as I recollect the Courier Mail's take on the wrongful death of a woman in Brisbane, which needs no further hyberbole :yuk:). The pulp media pulls on our heartstrings and when we get sick of it, bleats that we don't love them anymore and we've betrayed them, becuase now we've also got internet connections and can find the facts behind the emotive spin they ran for years.

The Murdoch and Fairfax press paid their money and they took their chance on the lowest common denominator and the advertisers who preyed on them. Now even the lowest common demoninator sees through their emotive, devisive, crappy BS they're whining all the way to oblivion, when those of us with three digit IQ scores stop listening to them. :bored: Seriously, if I want emotive, crappy news I can go to Facebook for free!

It must suck, running a multi billion dollar racket for years and raking in all those $1.20s, and all too late realising that even the dodgiest, fluro wearing worker bee sees through the smokescreen and realises that the Media Emperor wears no clothes apart from salacious spin and hysteria. News? Comes from the Qld Police via Facebook. Opinion? Various sources from the web. Contrary views? Thanks, Jetblast :E. Newspapers? Thanks, it's been a pleasure. :zzz:

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