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RJM 12th Oct 2012 12:55

There's more fun-filled weekend reading (depending on your political leanings, of course) here:

Home - The Pickering Post

The ABC isn't touching this, so it's probably all made up ...

MTOW 13th Oct 2012 05:39

Another interesting site.

Slater and Gordon lawyers nail Craig Thomson for fraud. The real smoking gun! | Kangaroo Court of Australia

Oh... and while the misogynist "debate" continues to take all of parliament's and the meedja's attention, another boat carrying 188 country shoppers arrived this morning.

500N 13th Oct 2012 06:47

Food for thought.

But just as he has before, you can bet Jones will rise again. His power lies in his audience.
But exactly who is listening? For the first six Nielsen radio ratings surveys of this year, Jones's breakfast talkback show on 2GB attracted an average daily audience of just over 162,000 people in Sydney out of a potential audience of 3.75 million.
That's a little more than Gardening Australia on ABC TV, but not quite as high as Call the Midwife, though all programs dominate the over-55s.
By comparison the Herald attracted a weekday readership of 649,000 people over the same period, according to Roy Morgan Research.
Just over half of Jones's audience is over 65, with 22.5 per cent between 55 and 64.
Jones, who lives in the Toaster apartment building at Circular Quay, the same building he once railed against, counts just 8 per cent of his average audience as neighbours from Sydney's inner city, eastern suburbs and the inner west.
The vast majority, 91 per cent, call Sydney's outer suburbs home.
And no surprises who they voted for in the last federal election, with 84.4 per cent putting the Liberals or Nationals as their first preference, according to Roy Morgan. Julia Gillard's government, by contrast, received just 7.4 per cent.

allan907 13th Oct 2012 07:03

If the MSM are to be believed it appears that the tide of public opinion is beginning to swing away from the "her speech was wonderful" tack. People are now seeing it for what it was - a hypocritical piece of hogwash - linked, as it was, to the defence of the biggest misogynist of all, Slippery Pete.

I suppose that the next Newspoll will either confirm or deny that theory. But, if it is confirmed then it will bear out what many on here have been saying; that personal attacks will only come back to bite them on the bum a la Queensland.

500N 13th Oct 2012 07:11

Bishop looked fired up today in the newspaper !

She certainly got stuck into Gillard about using gender
and her attack on the women in Abbott's life.



Gillard is holding on by the skin of her teeth ATM.

RJM 13th Oct 2012 07:13

If you believe Prof David Flint talking to sackedd radio announcer Michael Smith, you might agree that Joners and co are small beer - the PM may be about to take a big dive.

David Flint is a lawyer and a former head of the Australian Press Council and the Australian Broadcasting Authority. Michael Smith served six years in the army, was a policeman for four years and was chairman of the Sydney Symphony Orchestra.


It seems clear that Gillard did and knows a lot more than she has admitted about the Wilson/AWU affair.

Why should anyone in Australia, even the PM, escape justice?

500N 13th Oct 2012 07:21

Their is / was an article on the lawyer from Slater and Gordon
in the Age this morning. The one who took Gillard to task
and has lost a friend plus all the support of his ex employer !

RJM 13th Oct 2012 10:07

It's telling that Slater & Gordon as conveyancer for the purchaser (of Gillard's boyfriend's house with money taken straight from the dodgy AWU association account) accepted a cheque from that account instead of the required bank cheque.

That is not acceptable procedure for any conveyancer, and I'd suggest it shows that if Gillard didn't do the conveyancing herself, she at least looked over the shoulder of some clerk who did.

While Gillard says she never opened a client file on the fake AWU association, S&G must have once the crooked operation was exposed and S&G began holding meetings and generating correspondence on the affair. However, sadly, S&G have lost the file, although they've looked 'very hard' for it. What a surprise.

Meanwhile, Gillard has personally phoned editors who have run or have planned to run the story and demanded a printed retraction or demanded that the story be pulled.

The stench of corruption is overwhelming, but Gillard seems to glide around oblivious, happy to employ the extreme diversionary tactics of her new adviser, the Scottish political gutter dweller John McTernan.

Damned by many as a power-obsessed fraud who siezed power then lied to win an election, but still defended by the Left media as, well, as all they have to defend, Gillard can't continue for long in her unstable situation.

I give her a few weeks at the most.

Croozin 13th Oct 2012 22:24

The many, many comments following the London 'Telegraph' article about Gillard's rant are overwhelmingly critical, (and worth looking up) with a dozen or more replies flaming any of the very few posts giving it a positive review, most saying "you're falling for the theatre, not the content" of the speech.

I'd be assuming that most of the critics are Australians living in London or Brits who've lived in Oz and know Gillard for the fake she is.

It gives lie to the McTernan spin that the rant was received positivily by most people overseas. Jezebel.com is hardly mainstream US public opinion.



We never hear from sisemen, the person who started this thread, any more. Has he been banned, or just given up?

Andu 13th Oct 2012 22:26


Gillard vows to secure Bali bomb site

by: Peter Alford in Bali
From:The Australian
October 13, 20122:18PM

JULIA Gillard has pledged the Government will continue working to secure the Sari Club site as permanent peace park and memorial to the 88 Australians and others who died in the 2002 Bali bombings.
Another 'gift' to Indonesia with more borrowed money?

500N 13th Oct 2012 22:39

"JULIA Gillard has pledged the Government will continue working to secure the Sari Club site as permanent peace park and memorial to the 88 Australians and others who died in the 2002 Bali bombings.

Another 'gift' to Indonesia with more borrowed money?"


Talking of memorials to the 88, I think the best memorial I have seen so far
is the

"Special Detachment 88 (Detasemen Khusus 88), Delta 88, or Densus 88, is the Indonesian counter-terrorism squad, and part of the Indonesian National Police. "

1. Supposedly amed after the 88 Australians who died in Bali
2. Partially trained by the Australian SAS and Federal Police
3. They have been very focused on going after terrorists and
have been successful at it, wiping out more than a few cells.

Far better than some peace park which due to it's location will
become a hole once the media focus is taken away.

Captain Sand Dune 14th Oct 2012 00:00


The many, many comments following the London 'Telegraph' article about Gillard's rant are overwhelmingly critical, (and worth looking up) with a dozen or more replies flaming any of the very few posts giving it a positive review, most saying "you're falling for the theatre, not the content" of the speech.
I'd be assuming that most of the critics are Australians living in London or Brits who've lived in Oz and know Gillard for the fake she is.
It gives lie to the McTernan spin that the rant was received positivily by most people overseas. Jezebel.com is hardly mainstream US public opinion.
Good point. Most with more than half a brain see Ms Gillard's outburst for what it is; theatrics. Tinged IMHO, with an air of desperation.
On a slightly different tack, it seems being outraged has devloped from a pastime to a profession in Australia. However being outraged doesn't mean you're right.

Was watching the Weekend Sunrise on CH7 this morning (yeah, sorry:O) which ran a segment about the effect of the Carbon Tax 100 days on featuring a talking head from the Climate Change Commission (you know, that "independant" body run by Tim Flannery). Predictably for CH7, it crowed about how minimal the impact was. After 100 days!! In the sole opinion of a representative of a Labour funded bunch of scare mongers, and no opinion sought from anyone else.
How is another tax good for the citizens of one of the most taxed countries on Earth?
Comment from McTernan's spin department?
Gotta love impartial journalism in this country - but then what was I thinking watching CH7:hmm:.

Andu 14th Oct 2012 00:44

Quite heavy snowfall over more than a bit of eastern Australia from the Victorian border to southern Queensland - in mid October! Some would wonder how "it'll never rain again" Tim Flannery can show his face in public.

Does he have no.. (dare I use the word?)... shame? :)

We all know there'll be another major drought. There always is in Australia. So Tim is waitin' in there, still collecting his large taxpayer-supplied salary, to tell us all, one day, "I told you so". It will be interesting to see how long he holds his job after a change of government.

500N 14th Oct 2012 01:01

Andu

Had hail and SNOW in the first two weeks of December at PuckaPunyal
- an Army base in central Victoria, Southern Australia for those that
don't live here.

And worst of all, it was during a Weapons lesson !

Last a couple of days which made life interesting considering
Summer Dress was in.

CoodaShooda 14th Oct 2012 01:17


Gotta love impartial journalism in this country - but then what was I thinking watching CH7
Mate

Watch Insiders today to see Barry Cassidy jump all over Michael Stuchbery's attempt to discuss the history of this labor government in less than glowing terms.

Stuch also made a good point that, other than the handbag hit sqaud, no senior labor Minister is subscribing to the "Abbott is a mysoginist" line.

I still think that, if this month's opinion polls don't show a lift in Gillard's fortunes, she's gone. (Unless, Michael Smith's efforts get her first.)


PS Told Coodakid2 that he didn't need much in the way of warm weather gear for his two week trip to the Blue Mountains, which started last week. I may live to regret my advice when he gets back to our 36C and thaws out.

Clare Prop 14th Oct 2012 02:01

Not often I agree with Chrisine Milne but she has also criticised the PM "speech"(I call it a "screech") in the context of defending Slipper.

Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian

I do wonder how many of the boat arrivals are people who believe women are inferior to men, yet they are being welcomed with open arms.

Somthing to think about, Christine, on your way up to the moral high ground.

Seeing as stereotypes are all the rage this week... :mad:

allan907 14th Oct 2012 02:19


We never hear from sisemen, the person who started this thread, any more. Has he been banned, or just given up?
Oh I'm still here and have never hidden the fact that Allan907 and sisemen are interchangeable.

I had to go to allan907 as I have, apparently, been permanently banned from this thread because of "abuse". This was as a result of some 'frank exchange of ideas' with some of the dear departed who felt that I was some kind of special target for their weird left wing driven bile and vilification. Retaliation with plain speaking wasn't liked by the mods who were operating this thread at the time. As the original mods are the only ones who can unban me sisemen is likely to be absent from this thread for some while :E

Fortunately we now have a clear thinker as a mod who can recognise the trolls. :}

Buster Hyman 14th Oct 2012 03:22

Siseman was taller though.... :confused:

heated ice detector 14th Oct 2012 03:34

So if anyone has a different opinion to the bordering on racist comments that appear in this thread are labelled Trolls.
Interesting, I must look up the definition for troll in the dictionary

Howard Hughes 14th Oct 2012 03:53

I'm waiting for professor Flannery's explanation on this! :rolleyes:


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