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Saltie 28th Aug 2012 05:36

Rising cost of asylum seekers poses threat to delivering surplus


Four boats carrying an estimated 345 asylum seekers were found in Australian waters yesterday. One with 165 people was stopped near Christmas Island and taken to the island. Three boats, carrying 180 people were intercepted near Cocos Islands and will also be also taken to Christmas Island for initial health and security checks.


Read more: Rising cost of asylum seekers poses threat to delivering surplus
two morning services and two in the afternoon. I wish NSW railways offered my place such service!

Saltie 28th Aug 2012 05:37

Didn't Swan allow for 450 a month in his "guaranteed surplus" budget?

345 in ONE day???

500N 28th Aug 2012 05:45

So our country and the surplus is in trouble because of a load
of boat people, quite a few who have been picked up because
the Indonesians couldn't be bothered and asked Australia to
do it.

Maybe another clasue needs to be written into the agreement
where we agree to do their dirty work in exchange for mega $
per Asylum Seeker.

We just look so weak it is pathetic.

Andu 28th Aug 2012 06:26

From the number of boats appearing off Cocos/Keeling, it would seem the Tamils are fast overtaking the Middle Eastern country shoppers in numbers.

Talk about Hobson's choice... without having any say in the matter, Australia now gets more of the people who created the suicide vest instead of those who eagerly adopted it as their own. Not that the latter are coming in any fewer numbers than they have been (quite the opposite, in fact) - the Tamils have just turned the whole sorry mess into a 24 hour a day peak hour.

Oh, how I'd love to hear the comments of the RAN personnel ordered to follow this government's "policies".

500N 28th Aug 2012 06:39

"From the number of boats appearing off Cocos/Keeling, it would seem the Tamils are fast overtaking the Middle Eastern country shoppers in numbers."

Oh so would I.

And I'd also like to hear the head of the Navy and Chiefs of the ADF
chomping about the excess wear and tear on the patrol boats that will
need to be repaired at some point and therefore taken off line.

And of course, what happens if and when they come to their EOL
before the original expected date ? Who is going to pay for the new boats ?

The Gov't will forget all this and hope it lands on someone else's desk.

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SOPS 28th Aug 2012 06:43

When is this mob of huggyflufs going to grow a pair, and say two things. You WILL be going to Naru, and if you call the Australian Navy 200 meters of the coast of Jakarta, the Navy will help you by towing you straight back to the beach. It cant be that bloody hard.:ugh::ugh:

allan907 28th Aug 2012 07:16

I don't think that, even after all the angst, this government has actually grasped that the illegal immigrant problem is causing a major problem for them.

The (temporary) bounce back in the polls graphically shows that the "people" thought that the situation had been solved - ergo the low polls previously were proof that this (and other policies) were not working.

Once the "people" wake up again to the fact that this government has bollaxed things again watch the polls head south once more.

Richardson has got it right - Gillard is concentrating too much on dissing Abbott rather than governing. Her comment to Abbott on the floor of the House once she'd knifed Krudd says it all - "Game on".

hellsbrink 28th Aug 2012 14:53


Gillard is concentrating too much on dissing Abbott rather than governing.
Does she and her party have a choice? If they have realised that certain policies are failures then there are two options:-

1) Backtrack on the policies/do a u-turn and face the Opposition making serious gains from it as the electorate thinks "WTF is going on"

2) Throw enough mud around to distract enough voters from seeing what is going on so they still vote ALP.

Which one would you do, if you were in her shoes?

allan907 28th Aug 2012 15:16

But she's been doing that from day 1. There's no substance to the woman other than to prove (to herself?) that she's better than Abbott.

The latest screw up over the carbon tax is a case in point. It's been done simply to take the wind out of Abbott's sails and to make it less of an electoral liability. If it turns around the polls, all well and good. If, in the unlikely event, they win the next election then they'll just adjust things to ensure that the money keeps rolling in - either by reinstating a floor or thinking up a new tax.

In the meantime she feels free to swing the wrecking ball with gay abandon sure in the knowledge that she and her party are hardly likely to pay the penalty and have to account for it.

The woman's a total disaster and ought to be buried.

hellsbrink 28th Aug 2012 15:20

And that points to them not actually having any solid policies at all and never had any from the start.

The u-turn on the Carbon Tax being a perfect example of that.

Hopefully, for you guys (although the repercussions of Aus policies may even be felt here) they'll get annihilated in the next election, but since that's likely to mean the tree-huggers get a bigger share of the vote it's also a worry.....

500N 28th Aug 2012 15:31

I heard something on the radio this evening re the floor price
and they were saying it was a bit complicated having a floor price
when the EU and I think the US didn't and so it was easier not to !

I wish I had caught the whole interview.

500N 29th Aug 2012 02:35

I see Julia has announced her Dental sweetener at an appropriate time
that will get voters minds off the A/S.

I wonder if it was planned this way or brought forward to put the
Agenda back in her court ?

Any thoughts ?

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allan907 29th Aug 2012 02:43

Gillard and her bunch of dysfunctionals have only one aim - keep in power. So therefore I suspect that your latter option is the most appropriate.

Buster Hyman 29th Aug 2012 02:52

I guess the "Asylum entrants" will be looking forward to the new Dental plan too.

prospector 29th Aug 2012 03:14

Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian

Perhaps we will hear more of this from Larry Pickering Post.

Rap sheet reveals 60 charges for would-be union boss John Setka

by: JOHN FERGUSON AND PIA AKERMAN
From:The Australian
August 29, 201212:00AM

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THE extraordinary police record of John Setka, one of the nation's most powerful unionists, finally has been laid bare, with 60 charges leading to dozens of convictions and fines including for theft, assault by kicking, criminal damage and assaulting police.

By the end of the year, Mr Setka is expected to be placed in charge of the construction division of the Victorian branch of the Construction Forestry Mining and Energy Union.

Andu 29th Aug 2012 08:10

The Pickering Post is still blocked, but Pickering's latest missive is available on his Facebook page. The first paragraphs should not surprise anyone.


RUDD LEAKS ON GILLARD:

Others who are commenting on the Wilson/Gillard scandal today confirmed that damaging material is coming from the Office of Kevin Rudd.

It appears he is determined to continue to destabilise Gillard. Yesterday he claimed the next election was winnable. Every man and his dog knows Gillard cannot win the next election so, what he was really saying is: "If I am reinstated the next election is winnable."
Rudd could hardly restrain himself from gloating in his media interviews yesterday.

The whole of Pickering's latest is worth reading.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Larry...36991276355038

Ovation 29th Aug 2012 10:05

From ABC Breaking News around 1500 EST:


The search for a sinking asylum seeker boat has been called off after Indonesian rescue helicopters failed to find any sign of the boat or survivors.

Australian authorities received a distress call early this morning, saying a boat with 150 people on board was sinking in Indonesia's Sunda Strait.

A spokesman for Indonesia's search and rescue organisation, BASARNAS, says they sent two rescue helicopters and boat to the area, but they returned without having found any sign of the boat or survivors.

The search has now been called off until any further information emerges.

The distress call indicated the boat was between Java and Sumatra, about 220 nautical miles from Christmas Island.

Three other boats carrying 500 people are known to have sunk on that route in recent years.
Another Gillard policy failure?

Keeping a fleet of Patrol boats close to Indonesia is like a line of beacons serving only to attract more illegal immigrants with their (mostly) hoax distress calls.

Is it true the only flags our patrol boats carry are white? :rolleyes:

500N 29th Aug 2012 10:36

"Keeping a fleet of Patrol boats close to Indonesia is like a line of beacons serving only to attract more illegal immigrant"


Didn't you know that it's called a Taxi Rank when they all line up.

"BASARNAS, says they sent two rescue helicopters and boat to the area, but they returned without having found any sign of the boat or survivors."

How come we always seem to find them but they can't ?
In fact, have they ever found a boat ?
(I know boats like that are hard to pick up on Radar but
they must be able to find something.)
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EffohX 29th Aug 2012 10:47

Am I the only one to wonder how the Indonesian rescuers would react if they located the sinking boat and the survivors threatened self harm unless they were taken to Christmas Island rather than back to Indonesia?

In answer, I found myself saying "Hmmmm..."

criticalmass 29th Aug 2012 11:17

I would not put it past the Indonesian SAR people to have deliberately failed to locate anything or anyone...just to save the embarrassment and inconvenience of having to actually do something to assist them. "Stone dead hath no fellow" as Shakespeare so aptly put it.


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