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hellsbrink 7th Aug 2012 17:53

How long has he been in charge there, 3 months or something?

500N 7th Aug 2012 18:04

I think it is 4 months.

hellsbrink 7th Aug 2012 18:04

Nice to see the locals are giving him a chance then.

500N 7th Aug 2012 18:21

I don't know why but I always thought his popularity wouldn't last.
Maybe because of the way he played the floods and then used it as a
spring board to get elected, plus he ran a hard campaign.

I think politics and the people are a bit all over the place at the moment
with Federal issues clouding state politics - Asylum seekers, GST,
Carbon Tax, Julia Gillard, Economy ..............

Just my HO.

hellsbrink 7th Aug 2012 18:42

Well, without looking into a lot of things, I guess you would have to look at HIS policies to see what the Queenslanders are thinking.

But, when looking at that "report", I spot something that shows they have used a bit of "journalistic licence".


Last night's survey of 661 residents by automated phone call polling company ReachTEL found the Liberal National Party was sitting on 42.8 per cent of the primary vote, 9 points lower than at the March election.

Labor's support was up 4.5 per cent to 41.1 per cent, while increases were also recorded for the Greens, Katter's Australian Party and "other".

The results should be interpreted with caution as the stated error margin for the poll means each figure could be up to 3.7 percentage points higher or lower than the true result.
So, on the PRIMARY vote, more of the 661 people questioned, not including the "margin for error" which I do not understand as surely ASKING people over the phone gives you a definite answer, would vote Liberal.

Move to the "two party preferred" vote and you see that figure has been extrapolated. In other words, they took the figures they had, with the unexplainable "margin of error", and made up the final figure. That "margin of error" could change their result completely, but that is not reported.

So how can that newspaper, or even ReachTEL, say, for certain, that, based on that poll of a VERY small number of people of their choosing (not random), that Campbell Newman would definitely LOSE an election if it were held today?

parabellum 7th Aug 2012 22:42

Monday nights Q & A from Queensland was a disgrace, it became a party political broadcast on behalf of the ALP, the chairman made no effort to reign in Emmerson or anyone prepared to speak out against Newman. It would appear that whilst they realised that Bligh left them with billions of debt they couldn't understand why Newman had to introduce austerity measures!:rolleyes:

500N 7th Aug 2012 22:49

I think Newman is being punished for being hard
and making some hard but needed decisions.
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Andu 7th Aug 2012 23:40

I said at the time he launched his (let's face it, 'unique', from outside Parliament) bid to be Qld Premier, Campbell Newman's choice of a seat was quixotic, to put it mildly. It was always a given that he would have to introduce some very unpopular policies to redress the excesses of the Beattie/Bligh blight years, and therefore also a given that holding a marginal seat like the one he chose would be a big ask in any subsequent election. (Let's face it - it was far from certain he was going to win his seat at the last election.)

Back to matters Federal: Larry Pickering has upped the ante even more with his latest offering:

IS THE PRIME MINISTER A CROOK? - Politics - The Pickering Post

If I was a conspiracy theorist, I'd be recommending Larry Pickering employ a food taster.

RJM 8th Aug 2012 00:17

I was just about to post that link, Andu. I hope Pickering's right, for his sake as well as ours. He doesn't pull any punches...


WA Premier, Brian Burke, Alan Bond and Laurie Connell all served time. The infamous Wilson/Gillard alliance emerged from the ashes of the WA Inc. scandal.

That Royal Commission did nothing to eradicate the next wave of corrupt union gangsters.

AWU boss, Bruce Morten Wilson was part of that new wave. Julia Eileen Gillard was later to become his pregnant girlfriend and partner in further crime.

Buster Hyman 8th Aug 2012 01:03


It is a gripping saga and we have the full story... a story that will cause a Government to fall.
Well, get on with it then!!!!

Fubaar 8th Aug 2012 01:42

My thoughts exactly, Buster. Pickering's playing at politics as bad as the rest of them rather than trying to solve the problem if he's holding back whatever he has to release it in teaser instalments to keep his blog's hit numbers up.

The pregnant business is a distraction and perhaps should be downplayed, if only because it will give the Gillard supporters the chance of manufacturing a Red Herring in using it to drag the attack off on a tangent.

Pickering must have something pretty substantial backing up is allegations. If he didn't, Gillard's hit men lawyers whould have shut him down by now. I just hope he's very health-aware and doesn't fall ill or meet with an accident.

CoodaShooda 8th Aug 2012 01:54


I just hope he's very health-aware and doesn't fall ill or meet with an accident.
Gillard may well be considering the same thing. Even if an innocent accident befell Pickering, it will send the conspiracy theorists running and throw fuel on the fires already lit.

And to quote myself from 25 July


The final nail in the coffin of brand labor will be the fallout from the union corruption enquiries, which I think we will find is only just starting

RJM 8th Aug 2012 03:37


union corruption enquiries
What enquiries? Labor is still shielding Craig Thomson who has yet toi be dealt with after years of investigation and there's not much being said about the HSU's other problems. Labor certainly isn't talking.

CoodaShooda 8th Aug 2012 03:56

Media enquiries, Pickering enquiries, Bolt enquiries, Alan Jones enquiries, internal enquiries (although they are usually conducted to clear the guilty) eventually lead to police enquiries, parliamentary enquiries and ultimately royal commission enquiries. :p

And the longer they roll on, the greater the associated stench in the noses of the general public.

The biggest danger to Australia is the damage that might be done by a trapped and desperate group of criminals who currently hold the keys to the Treasury. Vengeance can be a strong motivator.

I wonder whether the 5% jump in labor's popularity will disappear now that the Prime Minister is getting back on the front page?

Also waiting for the libs to do something monumentally stupid to throw public opinion back towards labor. It seems to be in their DNA.

RJM 8th Aug 2012 04:05

Let's hope you're right, Cooda.

Buster Hyman 8th Aug 2012 05:11


Also waiting for the libs to do something monumentally stupid to throw public opinion back towards labor. It seems to be in their DNA.
:D:D Probably true

allan907 8th Aug 2012 10:56

Oh what tangled webs they weave.......

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c9.../cliffedge.jpg

Andu 8th Aug 2012 11:12


National Broadband Network revenue to fall as costs hit $37.4bn
by: Mitchell Bingemann
From:The Australian
August 08, 20126:11PM
TOTAL capital expenditure for the National Broadband Network has blown out by $1.4 billion to $37.4bn as construction-timetable changes push up the costs of Labor's flagship project.
gee, whoda thunk it?

EffohX 8th Aug 2012 11:22

Have the boats stopped arriving? Or has Wayne 'Springsteen' Goose's antics kept the new arrivals "out of sight, out of mind"?

I was interested to hear this afternoon that JUlia Gillard was "celebrading" the victory of the two Australian gold medal winners today (and tells us we shoud all be "celebrading" along with her). CelebraDing? Both the poor women had to endure phone calls from la Gillard contradulaDing them on their "vicDorees".

God I hope Larry Pickering isn't spinning us a yarn, but really does have impossible to ignore, hard evidence that will get this woman out of our lives forever - and PDQ.

I cringe to think of the photos op. with her that her minders will force upon the Olymic medal winners when they return.

CHAIRMAN 8th Aug 2012 13:24

Heard on the wireless today Julia bleating about State Govt's ripping off the 'poor electrical consumer', and she intends to 'bring them to account'.

Also looked today at my latest electric light bill and noticed, buried at the bottom:
'Qld Competition Authority estimates a a 2012-2013 carbon price impact on domestic price tariff 11 as 2.4 c/kWh etc.etc.'
This represents an increase of more than 10% of the bill I just paid from 20/4/12 to 19/7/12 (most of it seemed to be about 20c per kWhr)
BTW, my bill just paid is $665.00 for the quarter.

She HAS to be joking. Who the hell is trying to kid WHOM:ugh::ugh:

Bring on a federal election.............anyone other than Labor would win hands down. The Jedi religion/party has more credence and support than the current lot...........including of course the watermelons, and their independent clingers/on.

In over 40 years of voting, I have never, ever had a clearer focus on what party should NOT be running our country.


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