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GROUNDHOG 1st Sep 2011 08:06

Domestic heating oil
 
According to boilerjuice in the last 10 minutes the price of oil has rocketed 10p a litre! Either the site is wrong or if it really has ring your supplier now and fill up before this gets passed on to the consumer!!!!

McGoonagall 1st Sep 2011 08:16

Hang on a minute. Slight autumnal chill in the morning and central heating being flashed up = heating oil price rises. During the worst of last winter an independent oil supplier we used to use increased his prices from about 58p/l to 89p/l. His customer base is now very much depleted. We managed to get 1000 litres at 55p/l a couple of weeks ago. With a bit of luck it should see out the worst of the upcoming winter.

Windy Militant 1st Sep 2011 08:51

Be wary where you get your oil from! My mum used to get her oil from this lot but changed to another supplier last year after they put their prices up. Oil company fined 51,000 (From Tivyside Advertiser)

HuntandFish 1st Sep 2011 08:56

There has been adverse coment in the press about Boiler Juice accusing them of ignoring cheaper suppliers .
Syndicates are the way to go .

Keef 1st Sep 2011 09:09

I've bought from Boilerjuice about twice in twenty oil purchases, in Suffolk and in Norfolk. In the other 18 cases, the local supplier was cheaper.

We're now in a bulk purchasing syndicate, which is scary in that you have to fit into the syndicate's buying schedule, but comes out very well "on the day".

GROUNDHOG 1st Sep 2011 12:12

I only use boilerjuice as a monitor, just put 2350 litres in the tank at 52.6 per litre after calling several different suppliers which is what I always do. I am a terror for getting a deal and usually the suppliers don't mind a bit having a haggle.

Blues&twos 1st Sep 2011 17:03

I've always rung round locally, and for the past couple of years Boilerjuice has been the cheapest. Never the quickest, but always the cheapest.

Maybe it's the area, and that I only ever buy 500 litres at a time...

(just checked and it's 57.4p/litre at the moment for a "standard delivery" to my house).

Helol 1st Sep 2011 17:51

Gawd, I've been putting this off for some time, but it will soon be time to order again. Our problem is that we need the small tanker, rather than the standard one hence the lack of good deals for us.

The last time we filled up, it disappeared after a couple of days. Sods law, we had a leak, and lost around 400 ltrs. Wasn't worth claiming from the insurance either.

stuckgear 1st Sep 2011 18:18


The last time we filled up, it disappeared after a couple of days. Sods law, we had a leak, and lost around 400 ltrs. Wasn't worth claiming from the insurance either.
Ouch !

Heating oil thefts are on the rise also. When the boiler needed replacing we were thinging about going the oil route (about 2 years ago) but the cost of digging up the ground and laying gas pipe worked out only slightly more than putting in a oil boiler and tank.

If the cost of gas keeps going up, i'm going to switch to burning old tyres.

Vitesse 1st Sep 2011 18:30

If you check the Boilerjuice graph (it'll show 2 years of data) it seems that this is usually the cheapest time to buy oil.

Anyone got any experience with buying syndicates? There's one locally, but they get topped up every quarter.

I get 10 month's use from a refill and like to choose when I buy.

Mr Optimistic 1st Sep 2011 19:44

Just paid 60p/litre using local syndicate (yobco) for 600l.

Sprogget 1st Sep 2011 22:08

Right, people, let's get a couple of things straight. Boilerjuice.com is owned by DCC, an Irish business that owns GB oils & some 40 other oil suppliers in the UK.

It has been heavily criticised for it's buisness practices including running multiple oil suppliers from the same office ( made a few calls for quotes? Think on that) and operating what amounts to a cartel in the UK. If you put your trust in boilerjuice, you are effectively feeding one business.

Blues&twos 2nd Sep 2011 07:01

Hi Sprogett - might be just me, I'm not entirely sure I see your point...the cheapest quotation I get is from Boilerjuice (however they operate). Direct calls to the other local suppliers give me quotations several pence per litre higher, so I go for the least expensive option. I'm not putting my trust in Boilerjuice as such, just paying them to supply me with oil.

Are you simply pointing out that it's like the supermarkets doing the small businesses out of trade by undercutting them? If so, it's a good idea in theory to support the independent retailers, but in reality I've got a family to feed (and attempt to keep warm!)

GROUNDHOG 2nd Sep 2011 10:20

Agree with blues and twos, not interested where it comes from only the total at the bottom of the invoice.... no pun intended.

Helol 17th Sep 2011 15:26

Prices as of 9 Sep were 63 point something ppl from our usual supplier, and 57.39 ppl with our new supplier for > 500 litres.

600 litres plus VAT came to just over 361.

We weren't sure if their 4 wheel tanker would make it up our steep track, however they said they'd 'have a go', which they duly did with success.

So farewell to our old supplier with their ridiculous prices.

JEM60 17th Sep 2011 15:56

In our Chedburgh syndicate we are paying 54ppl +5% VAT Sounds good to me.

ricardian 17th Sep 2011 19:06

I had 500 litres delivered on 7 Sep. The bill was 321.15 plus 16.06 VAT (64.23p per litre before VAT)

modtinbasher 18th Sep 2011 15:53

Leaks.....OMG
 
Helol

Some years ago I replaced my metal tank with a plastic one and piped it in myself. The new tank was guaranteed for 10 years, what a laugh! After 5 it split AND, I'd also just had 900 litres stuck in. Luckily I noticed pretty quickly and got a local agricultural engineer to come and drain the remainder below the split and then make me a new metal tank, the plastic supplier having ceased trading. Oh, by the way, oil tank supplier average price about 900, this chap, 600. That included pumping out, tank removal, manufacture of new tank and plumbing in and refilling.

I little tip I learnt from the company that I get my oil from, get a block of hard kitchen type soap and rub it liberally over the split, forcing it into it, and it may not only slow the leak, but as in my case I had a little luck, it actually stopped it! Even though it was Imperial Leather..... But, beware, it's only a temporary fix.

Another tip I picked up was about a sticker from the manufacturer of the tank placed in a prominent position: "If you suspect your tank to be leaking, ring this number for urgent attention." I pointed this out to the engineer who supplied my new tank and he asked if I'd tried to ring the number. I said not because I knew him and he could sort me out. I was quite surprised (no not really) to find that "urgent" sticker carried not the number for a tank replacement service, but indeed the part of the Environmental Agency that on my call, would have arrived and removed a heap of the deck around the tank and most likely have fined me up to 5000 for soil contamination!!!

MTB

Fancy! Further enquiries suggests that if you buy a property and find that the soil has been contaminated by a previous owner, YOU are responsible for the clear-up bills.

MTB

er340790 18th Sep 2011 16:34

MTB is dead right about leaks.

Aged aunt & uncle in Lincolnshire had a leak from their old metal tank while they were away one weekend. A neighbour reported it to the friendly Env Health :mad: Gestapo who, for their comfort and convenience, staged a full Show Trial, rolling out several hundred rules and regs against them. Talk about a self-justification exercise from a lot of under-employed pencil pushers.

Insurance didn't want to know. Said it was a failure to maintain the tank... though how an 80-year old is supposed to spot a small rust patch around the pipe on the underside of the tank is beyond me.

With clean-up, has cost them well over 10 grand to date.... and almost killed them with the stress of it all.

(One idea, if your tank is on a concrete pad, might be to get your local Polish brickkie to build a small bund-wall around the tank.)

Keef 18th Sep 2011 21:47

I'd heard the rumours about Boilerjuice, and they haven't been the cheapest quote for some time. They also took to bombarding me with invitations to ask for a quote - when it got to one a day, I unsubscribed.

Their best price today is 58.88p + VAT. I just ordered from the syndicate at 53.15p.

The syndicate has grown like Topsy - when I joined a year ago, there were under 200 members. Now, it's more like 1,000. I suspect that provides more leverage on the price.


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