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The odious Mr Ecclestone for Putin

Old 1st Jul 2022, 07:36
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The odious Mr Ecclestone for Putin

That odious little person, Bernie Ecclestone, is proving many right in their dislike of him when he was 'big' in F1.

As for offering to "take a bullet for Vlad Putin, because he's a first class person", he would be surprised by how many fully supported him in his offer: please step forward, Ecclestone. As an indication of the true level of Eccleston's delusion, he went on to say "I'd rather it didn't hurt". I don't think Ecclestone really thought this through, or knows what he is talking about - just big words from another small person with issues.

With any luck, and Ecclestone being so small, it would pass straight through him and take out the main target, leaving the planet free from two vile, small people, without wasting a 2nd bullet.
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Old 1st Jul 2022, 07:59
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"because he's a first class person" = he gave me loads of money to have a Grand Prix in Russia. That's all that matters in Bernie World.

That and getting in the papers
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Like it, or loathe it, he's entitled to his opinion and I'm sure on a personal level he had a very positive experience with VP, as well as financially rewarding from their shared passion for Sochi having an F1 GP there.

I'm not sure why he was interviewed at all (does anyone have the down-low ?) let alone about his thoughts on VP, but there you go. I haven't watched the interview, but the presenters must have been apoplectic with outrage with BE triggering them with each sentence!
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Old 1st Jul 2022, 09:51
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Originally Posted by SpringHeeledJack View Post
I'm not sure why he was interviewed at all
To turn his vanity into an opportunity ot make a fool of himself and confirm pilotmike's impression perhaps.

That said, not being able to make the distinction between how you get along with someone and the ethics of that peson more generally, seems to be a distinction that most of us struggle with.
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That said, not being able to make the distinction between how you get along with someone and the ethics of that peson more generally, seems to be a distinction that most of us struggle with.
It might be one reason he ended up in the position he was in F1.
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Younger people tham him suffer from Dementia.
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Old 1st Jul 2022, 10:14
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I suppose that BE was at an elite level for decades, albeit on a non-political level. Maybe he and others at that level have some form of dissonance that filters out the uncomfortable information that your average person can't because they are immersed in it to varying levels ? The leaders seem to be able to float around unencumbered and might well be less 'smart' than we might imagine.

You'd think that BE would want to live out his years healthy and hearty (and wealthy) in relative obscurity, but it seems not.
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Is it possible, likely even, that BE took sufficient 'smoothing, facilitation payments', let's say, from VP, that he's now tarred with VP money? Might he even possibly be facing the risk of sanctions of some sort, as applied to so many others caught with their fingers in Vlad's pie?
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Good point, but I'd say that if such were the case, BE has enough pull to avert any issues, certainly within the UK Govt.
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Old 1st Jul 2022, 10:39
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Those people are all in a very elite club. Oh, there's the president of Russia, oh there's the president of F1, oh there are the billionaires and oligarchs. Let's all go skiing in our private jets.

It can be very scary what little people can be capable of - to make up for their small stature and small body part........
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Let's all go skiing in our private jets.
And there's where you see the unimaginable wealth involved: Not only able to fly privately at will, but to have piste with snow making machines installed in the aircraft.
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I knew him. I was involved with his aircraft many years ago. You have to understand people like him don't live in the real world. They are living in a make believe world that rotates around unimaginable wealth. They live like Gods. Nothing is too expensive, nothing! Putin lives in the same world, only even more so. They are not just rich, they are insanely rich! Anything and everything is possible. And that makes them believe they are above everything and everyone. Which is why Putin pushes ahead with the Ukraine invasion. It's tiddlywinks to him. Bernie is saying "my mate that gave me a few more millions can't be bad." The thousands dying do not exist in these people's minds.When you have that superiority complex it's like us to worms?

We build these people up to be sociapaths, pay them insane amounts of money, put them in glasshouses and then expect them to behave like us? DOH!

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Old 1st Jul 2022, 17:40
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And there's where you see the unimaginable wealth involved: Not only able to fly privately at will, but to have piste with snow making machines installed in the aircraft.
Yes, Not to mention having exclusive mountain-top restaurants in there as well

As happyjack says, these people do not live in the real World at all and they have completely lost touch with reality. Question is; how do they get away with it and why do people follow them and support them?
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Wasn't there a controversy with Bernie several years back regarding him being a 'fan' of a certain Adolf Hitler? That would certainly be consistent with him being a fan of Putin.
Perhaps Bernie is a fan of the dictatorial form of government - having had considerable experience with it when he was in charge of F1...
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Originally Posted by tdracer View Post
Wasn't there a controversy with Bernie several years back regarding him being a 'fan' of a certain Adolf Hitler? That would certainly be consistent with him being a fan of Putin.
Perhaps Bernie is a fan of the dictatorial form of government - having had considerable experience with it when he was in charge of F1...
You might be thinking of Max Mosley...
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You might be thinking of Max Mosley...
you mean Oswald Mosley. Max’s father. The founder of the British Union of fascists.
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Originally Posted by tdracer View Post
Wasn't there a controversy with Bernie several years back regarding him being a 'fan' of a certain Adolf Hitler? That would certainly be consistent with him being a fan of Putin.
Perhaps Bernie is a fan of the dictatorial form of government - having had considerable experience with it when he was in charge of F1...
Mr Ecclestone also told The Times in 2019 that he felt the Russian should be "running Europe" and seemingly supported his anti-democracy ideology.

"He's a good guy,” said Mr Ecclestone. “He's never done anything that isn't doing good things for people. I would like him running Europe. We haven't got anybody, so it couldn't be any worse."

"He does what he says he is going to do ... I am not a supporter of democracy. You need a dictator. As a dictator, you say: 'This is what I'm going to do'. In a democracy, it gets watered down."

It is not the first time Mr Ecclestone has been condemned for supporting a dictator. In a newspaper interview in 2009, he appeared to praise Adolf Hitler, saying: “Terrible to say this I suppose, but apart from the fact that Hitler got taken away and persuaded to do things that I have no idea whether he wanted to do or not, he was – in the way that he could command a lot of people – able to get things done." Mr Ecclestone later apologised for those comments.
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He always struck me as a snivelling little snot.
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Old 2nd Jul 2022, 04:34
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you mean Oswald Mosley. Max’s father. The founder of the British Union of fascists.
No, I mean Max who was allegedly involved in a Nazi-themed sex scandal, allegations over which he sued the News of the World.
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Originally Posted by ericferret View Post
It is not the first time Mr Ecclestone has been condemned for supporting a dictator. In a newspaper interview in 2009, he appeared to praise Adolf Hitler, saying: “Terrible to say this I suppose, but apart from the fact that Hitler got taken away and persuaded to do things that I have no idea whether he wanted to do or not, he was – in the way that he could command a lot of people – able to get things done." Mr Ecclestone later apologised for those comments.
Thanks, I thought it was the evil dwarf that praised Hitler. Good to know my memory isn't that far gone yet (and yes I do recall Mosley joining on in the disgusting praise)
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