Russian Aircraft in Turkey
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Russian Aircraft in Turkey
Just had a look at FR24 as i have family on holiday in Antalya, they say the place is full of Russians which i was surprised at in the current climate.
And sure enough there is a B777 200 on finals of Pegas Fly which is one of the seemingly stolen aircraft formerly on a VQ registration (VQ BUD) and now RA73272.
Question, why are they not being impounded in Turkey a NATO country as they are outside Russia?.
And sure enough there is a B777 200 on finals of Pegas Fly which is one of the seemingly stolen aircraft formerly on a VQ registration (VQ BUD) and now RA73272.
Question, why are they not being impounded in Turkey a NATO country as they are outside Russia?.
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Originally Posted by zfw
Just had a look at FR24 as i have family on holiday in Antalya, they say the place is full of Russians which i was surprised at in the current climate.
And sure enough there is a B777 200 on finals of Pegas Fly which is one of the seemingly stolen aircraft formerly on a VQ registration (VQ BUD) and now RA73272.
Question, why are they not being impounded in Turkey a NATO country as they are outside Russia?.
And sure enough there is a B777 200 on finals of Pegas Fly which is one of the seemingly stolen aircraft formerly on a VQ registration (VQ BUD) and now RA73272.
Question, why are they not being impounded in Turkey a NATO country as they are outside Russia?.
NATO is a military treaty. Means nothing for sanctions.
Turkey have wanted EU membership for a while though. I don’t know enough of the backstory to know whether this behaviour promotes or negates their prospects.
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EU could and maybe should cancel or at least restrain the EU-Turkey free trade agreement (whatever the exact term is) hence pulling away a big pylon of the Turkish economy. And the US finally removing Turkey's industrial participation on the F-35 program.
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Originally Posted by oceancrosser
I have always found Turkey being an oddball in NATO. Perhaps Turkey should be let out as Finland and Sweden are let in.
Second largest standing military in NATO, controls the Bosphorus strait, and perhaps the only thing that is holding millions of refugees from flooding Europe.
Erdogan is using this to Turkeys' advantage. Don't come to the bazaar if you don't know how to haggle.
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Originally Posted by dctPub
Oddball?
Second largest standing military in NATO, controls the Bosphorus strait, and perhaps the only thing that is holding millions of refugees from flooding Europe.
Erdogan is using this to Turkeys' advantage. Don't come to the bazaar if you don't know how to haggle.
Second largest standing military in NATO, controls the Bosphorus strait, and perhaps the only thing that is holding millions of refugees from flooding Europe.
Erdogan is using this to Turkeys' advantage. Don't come to the bazaar if you don't know how to haggle.
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Originally Posted by LTBC
NATO is a military treaty. Means nothing for sanctions.
Turkey have wanted EU membership for a while though. I don’t know enough of the backstory to know whether this behaviour promotes or negates their prospects.
Turkey have wanted EU membership for a while though. I don’t know enough of the backstory to know whether this behaviour promotes or negates their prospects.
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Originally Posted by oceancrosser
I have always found Turkey being an oddball in NATO. Perhaps Turkey should be let out as Finland and Sweden are let in.
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Originally Posted by chevvron
I thought NATO had a military base there at Incurlik.
https://www.turkishnews.com/en/conte...ses-in-turkey/
The definition of NATO base may be a bit loose but I presume it means a foreign base on their soil which has been declared/committed to NATO.
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Originally Posted by chevvron
I thought NATO had a military base there at Incurlik.
Ooh, btw. we cannot confirm nor deny the about 20 B61 nukes at Inci.
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Originally Posted by DIBO
Must be true, the Band is marching in https://www.incirlik.af.mil/News/Art...-to-nato-ally/
Ooh, btw. we cannot confirm nor deny the about 20 B61 nukes at Inci.
Ooh, btw. we cannot confirm nor deny the about 20 B61 nukes at Inci.
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Originally Posted by zfw
Just had a look at FR24 as i have family on holiday in Antalya, they say the place is full of Russians which i was surprised at in the current climate.
And sure enough there is a B777 200 on finals of Pegas Fly which is one of the seemingly stolen aircraft formerly on a VQ registration (VQ BUD) and now RA73272.
Question, why are they not being impounded in Turkey a NATO country as they are outside Russia?.
And sure enough there is a B777 200 on finals of Pegas Fly which is one of the seemingly stolen aircraft formerly on a VQ registration (VQ BUD) and now RA73272.
Question, why are they not being impounded in Turkey a NATO country as they are outside Russia?.
There are many Russian owned superyacht's anchored there too. They know they are safe from western sanctions/seizures at the moment.
May be some very wealthy Turkish politicians in the future?
Just a guess.
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Originally Posted by dctPub
Oddball?
S the only thing that is holding millions of refugees from flooding Europe.
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S the only thing that is holding millions of refugees from flooding Europe.
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There are stories about Turkish Airlines offering great one way fares to IST for people who wanted to immigrate to the social welfare paradise of Europe and then turning a blind eye as these people boarded boats to illegally land in EU territory. EU pays billions to Turkey to keep some refugees in its soil - plenty of them due to its operation in Syria.
So Turkey has "weaponised" the immigrants against EU and still EU refuses to organize a solid response to this situation and taking away this weapon and money from Turkey.
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Originally Posted by Rwy in Sight
There are stories about Turkish Airlines offering great one way fares to IST for people who wanted to immigrate to the social welfare paradise of Europe and then turning a blind eye as these people boarded boats to illegally land in EU territory. EU pays billions to Turkey to keep some refugees in its soil - plenty of them due to its operation in Syria.
So Turkey has "weaponised" the immigrants against EU and still EU refuses to organize a solid response to this situation and taking away this weapon and money from Turkey.
So Turkey has "weaponised" the immigrants against EU and still EU refuses to organize a solid response to this situation and taking away this weapon and money from Turkey.
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Originally Posted by Ninthace
According to Turkey, there are 24 NATO bases in Turkey or there were in 2013.
https://www.turkishnews.com/en/conte...ses-in-turkey/
The definition of NATO base may be a bit loose but I presume it means a foreign base on their soil which has been declared/committed to NATO.
https://www.turkishnews.com/en/conte...ses-in-turkey/
The definition of NATO base may be a bit loose but I presume it means a foreign base on their soil which has been declared/committed to NATO.
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Originally Posted by Flyhighfirst
Turkey can call it what it likes. There is no such thing as a NATO base. There are US bases, UK bases… NATO has no physical presence in the world. It is merely an agreement to come to the aid of a signatory if attacked.
