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Originally Posted by ATNotts
The winners are The United Kingdom (the public vote for Ukraine being musically speaking total garbage)!!
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A football match was also being screened at the same time.
This reduction in the choice of viewing and channels did not have any adverse effect on the selection still available.
This reduction in the choice of viewing and channels did not have any adverse effect on the selection still available.
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
The winners are The United Kingdom (the public vote for Ukraine being musically speaking total garbage)!!
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Originally Posted by charliegolf
Check the result. Ukraine won. You're welcome
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Having watched the ESC for many years I know all about the local political voting between the likes Greece and Cyprus and the Baltic States but normally one of better entrants still wins through. Not so yesterday.
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips
A football match was also being screened at the same time.
This reduction in the choice of viewing and channels did not have any adverse effect on the selection still available.
This reduction in the choice of viewing and channels did not have any adverse effect on the selection still available.
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
Sure Ukraine picked up the trophy, but purely on a ridiculous bout of virtue signalling.
Yes, of course it's not based on the quality of the Ukrainian entry
(though it wasn't actually all that bad, by Eurovision standards), but whether you consider it virtue signalling or simply sending a message to the Russia that Europe stands more or less unanimously behind Ukraine, it will have presented yet another challenge for the Kremlin to try to spin its way out of.Join Date: Feb 2006
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I actually like the winning number, it’s catchy and I love the Tune, UK’s was good too, but who in all honesty doubted who the winner would be Ukraine, winners always have been political / topic of the day oriented, singing tends to be secondary.
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but who in all honesty doubted who the winner would be Ukraine, winners always have been political / topic of the day oriented, singing tends to be secondary.
I always find it disappointing that so many countries sing in english, for me it makes them indistinctive, possibly coming from anywhere, it would be better if they were obliged to sing in their own language. After all it's the rhythm and melody that win most over rather than the lyrics in such situations.
The ESC is a fun entertainment event and definitely not to be taken too seriously. For those who love the kitschy drama, it's the best, for many others a nonsense. I'm somewhere in the middle!
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The big issue of course, as immediately posited by Zelensky, is that next year's event is going to be a huge political statement that Ukraine is still there and with Europe solidly behind it. But security will be a headache.
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Originally Posted by Mr Mac
Sallyann 1234
I have only just picked up on this after a long flight home, but I believe from some friends in media we maybe deputizing for Ukraine possibly ?
Cheers
Mr Mac
I have only just picked up on this after a long flight home, but I believe from some friends in media we maybe deputizing for Ukraine possibly ?
Cheers
Mr Mac
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Originally Posted by Mr Mac
Sallyann 1234
I have only just picked up on this after a long flight home, but I believe from some friends in media we maybe deputizing for Ukraine possibly ?
Cheers
Mr Mac
I have only just picked up on this after a long flight home, but I believe from some friends in media we maybe deputizing for Ukraine possibly ?
Cheers
Mr Mac
That is certainly a possibility. But what would be the UK venue? In the "old days" Harrogate or Brighton would have been possibilities. Nowadays, with the size of the event only a few venues could handle it. Obviously the O2 in London, but outside of the capital I would suggest only the NIA or NEC Arena in Birmingham, or the GMEX in Manchester would perhaps be large enough.
Sadly, and not wish to pre-judge the outcome of the 2023 venue decision, I am afraid that in UK only London, London or London would likely be in the running were Kyiv or another Ukrainian city be unable to stage the competition.
