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Old 14th May 2022, 23:07
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The winners are The United Kingdom (the public vote for Ukraine being musically speaking total garbage)!!
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Old 15th May 2022, 06:46
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Musically speaking, few would dispute the first part of your statement.

The public part of the vote was of course based on other considerations. That's what happens.
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Old 15th May 2022, 11:22
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The winners are The United Kingdom (the public vote for Ukraine being musically speaking total garbage)!!
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Check the result. Ukraine won. You're welcome

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Old 15th May 2022, 12:08
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A football match was also being screened at the same time.

This reduction in the choice of viewing and channels did not have any adverse effect on the selection still available.
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Old 15th May 2022, 12:11
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The winners are The United Kingdom (the public vote for Ukraine being musically speaking total garbage)!!
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Music is a matter of taste. I rather enjoyed the Ukraine contribution. UK, nice, but nothing exciting.
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Old 15th May 2022, 12:30
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Check the result. Ukraine won. You're welcome

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Sure Ukraine picked up the trophy, but purely on a ridiculous bout of virtue signalling. I feel for not just UK artist, but also for those representing Sweden and Spain. OK it is little different to Lad Baby getting the Christmas No. 1 in the UK chart but serious acts trying to make their way in the music industry are somewhat thwarted by what happened last night.

Having watched the ESC for many years I know all about the local political voting between the likes Greece and Cyprus and the Baltic States but normally one of better entrants still wins through. Not so yesterday.
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Old 15th May 2022, 12:31
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Music is a matter of taste. I rather enjoyed the Ukraine contribution. UK, nice, but nothing exciting.
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Norway was dreadful, but then there was Moldova!!!!
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Old 15th May 2022, 12:37
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Wow! You really take this thing seriously
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Old 15th May 2022, 13:15
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A football match was also being screened at the same time.

This reduction in the choice of viewing and channels did not have any adverse effect on the selection still available.
Correct. We had an excellent meal out and came home when it was all over. Life was unchanged by either result.
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Old 15th May 2022, 13:31
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
Sure Ukraine picked up the trophy, but purely on a ridiculous bout of virtue signalling.
I have no idea how many people in Russia take an interest in the ESC in a normal year, but presumably it's reasonably popular otherwise the Russians wouldn't bother to enter or broadcast it. It's a fair bet that most of the potential audience in Russia will by now be aware of the result.

Yes, of course it's not based on the quality of the Ukrainian entry (though it wasn't actually all that bad, by Eurovision standards), but whether you consider it virtue signalling or simply sending a message to the Russia that Europe stands more or less unanimously behind Ukraine, it will have presented yet another challenge for the Kremlin to try to spin its way out of.

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Old 15th May 2022, 13:40
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I always wondered who actually watched that worn out old bag of rubbish.
Almost as bad as those reality shows that some choose to watch !
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Old 15th May 2022, 16:17
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I actually like the winning number, it’s catchy and I love the Tune, UK’s was good too, but who in all honesty doubted who the winner would be Ukraine, winners always have been political / topic of the day oriented, singing tends to be secondary.
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Old 15th May 2022, 16:31
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but who in all honesty doubted who the winner would be Ukraine, winners always have been political / topic of the day oriented, singing tends to be secondary.
Yes, a foregone conclusion, but tbh I wouldn't begrudge them their win and the feeling of support they might feel, however small. I didn't really get how the UK's entry was so popular, though it makes a change from the usual doldrums experienced. There were a few quirky entries and Moldova's entry just gave a great feeling all round.

I always find it disappointing that so many countries sing in english, for me it makes them indistinctive, possibly coming from anywhere, it would be better if they were obliged to sing in their own language. After all it's the rhythm and melody that win most over rather than the lyrics in such situations.

The ESC is a fun entertainment event and definitely not to be taken too seriously. For those who love the kitschy drama, it's the best, for many others a nonsense. I'm somewhere in the middle!
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Old 15th May 2022, 16:36
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The big issue of course, as immediately posited by Zelensky, is that next year's event is going to be a huge political statement that Ukraine is still there and with Europe solidly behind it. But security will be a headache.
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Old 15th May 2022, 17:41
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I have only just picked up on this after a long flight home, but I believe from some friends in media we maybe deputizing for Ukraine possibly ?

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Old 15th May 2022, 18:52
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I have only just picked up on this after a long flight home, but I believe from some friends in media we maybe deputizing for Ukraine possibly ?

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I would hope NOT. Ukraine has the right to do it and should have support from every country wishing to demonstrate that Putin hasn't won.
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Old 15th May 2022, 19:05
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I have only just picked up on this after a long flight home, but I believe from some friends in media we maybe deputizing for Ukraine possibly ?

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Mr Mac,

That is certainly a possibility. But what would be the UK venue? In the "old days" Harrogate or Brighton would have been possibilities. Nowadays, with the size of the event only a few venues could handle it. Obviously the O2 in London, but outside of the capital I would suggest only the NIA or NEC Arena in Birmingham, or the GMEX in Manchester would perhaps be large enough.

Sadly, and not wish to pre-judge the outcome of the 2023 venue decision, I am afraid that in UK only London, London or London would likely be in the running were Kyiv or another Ukrainian city be unable to stage the competition.
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Old 15th May 2022, 19:30
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Norway was dreadful, but then there was Moldova!!!!
Agreed, different, fun and dreadful.
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