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Old 5th May 2022, 17:40
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Billions or Milliards?

Listening to news bulletins on the radio it's sometimes difficult to distinguish between the spoken words millions and billions. The problem doesn't arise in French and German, both of which use 'milliard' to mean billion. Perhaps the English-speaking nations should think about doing the same?
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Just be grateful that we can at least now agree how many zeroes a billion has ...
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Old 5th May 2022, 19:09
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IIRC, the UK adopted (and Ireland followed) the US naming convention in the 1970's. Prior to that the naming system made sense

Million 1,000,000
Billion 1,000.000,000,000
Trillion 1.000,000,000,000.000,000

etc

the devalued billion (9 zeros) is correctly a milliard, with billiard, trilliard etc also dropped in the current nomenclature.

Personally, I'd be in favour of returning to the original system.

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Lets not ignore gold bulliard.
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Old 5th May 2022, 21:19
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Or riding pilliard on a motorcycle.
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I just use ‘A Frillion’ to describe any number that has more zeros than I can count on my fingers.
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What's wrong with 10 to the power of 9.
How do I write that properly on a computer?
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10⁹,

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I just use ĎA Frillioní to describe any number that has more zeros than I can count on my fingers.
Well now it's changing to a Brazilliard
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Old 6th May 2022, 10:06
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Originally Posted by dixi188 View Post
What's wrong with 10 to the power of 9.
How do I write that properly on a computer?



If you press and hold your finger on the number, options appear above it.

Holding 2 gives ⅖ ≤≤ ⅔, holding n gives Ů, o wins withō ú Ýbo Ų.
9 is quite boring with just ⁹

My daughter told me that last week
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Milliards, or Millyards?

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Old 6th May 2022, 11:34
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Originally Posted by Wetstart Dryrun View Post
If you press and hold your finger on the number, options appear above it.

Holding 2 gives ⅖ ≤≤ ⅔, holding n gives Ů, o wins withō ú Ýbo Ų.
9 is quite boring with just ⁹

My daughter told me that last week
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On a PC you can hold down the ALT key and type the ASCII code of the character you want on the numerical keypad, for instance ALT-225 gives you Ŗ, but that only works if you actually know the ASCII code of the character you want.

Actually - might be a successor to ASCII, but you hopefully get the idea.

Edit: And an easy way to type ten to the power 9 is 10^9
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Old 6th May 2022, 17:25
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Originally Posted by pasta View Post
On a PC you can hold down the ALT key and type the ASCII code of the character you want on the numerical keypad, for instance ALT-225 gives you Ŗ, but that only works if you actually know the ASCII code of the character you want.
Who would not know ASCII codes? ALT-171 is the one I use on a daily basis.
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Originally Posted by Discorde View Post
Listening to news bulletins on the radio it's sometimes difficult to distinguish between the spoken words millions and billions. The problem doesn't arise in French and German, both of which use 'milliard' to mean billion. Perhaps the English-speaking nations should think about doing the same?
Thing is, and I'm being really serious here, does it matter; billiion or million (or zillion, or millipede)? They are all just big numbers with lots of zeros.

People get the gist. Nobody does anything, nobody cares, whether you meant million or billion, for instance, unless its spoken at least twice, challenged or written down:

".... and transfer a million dollars this account ...."
"... climb and maintain a billion feet ..."
"I must have told you a million times not to exaggerate".
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Originally Posted by DuncanDoenitz View Post
Thing is, and I'm being really serious here, does it matter; billiion or million (or zillion, or millipede)? They are all just big numbers with lots of zeros.

People get the gist. Nobody does anything, nobody cares, whether you meant million or billion, for instance, unless its spoken at least twice, challenged or written down:

".... and transfer a million dollars this account ...."
"... climb and maintain a billion feet ..."
"I must have told you a million times not to exaggerate".
I quite like "gazillion". It's clearly a very large number, but there's no implied precision because it's obviously not an actual number.
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Did George W Bush really say "how many is a Brazillian" ?

Sadly not, it would seem ...
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Dunno really, but if I remember correctly from my Childhood Walt Disney Comic reading days, the mega rich Scrooge McDuck's wealth was something like 10,000 Multiplemajillion Ultiplexamagillion Megazallion Fantasicatillion Dollars and 16 cents.

(Regrettably no longer have the comic in which the actual figure was mentioned.)
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