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Old 10th Feb 2022, 14:17
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Uncle Fred,

Initial reports are that a member of the ROC skating team fell afoul of a doping test. I'm sure that paragon and defender of virture, the IOC, is on it as we speak.
BBC are reporting that the Russian media is saying the doper is the 15 year old "wonder girl" which if that were to be the case is absolutely abhorrent. Its one thing when a mature athlete decides with their coach to take performance enhancing drugs, but quite another when those drugs (for whatever purpose they are being administered) are being given to a minor who no likely refuse to do as their coach told them as jump off the nearest cliff.

If that did turn out to be the case not only should Russia be excluded as a nation, but the ROC should be expelled from the Olympic movement, or at least suspended from it unless or until Russia sport finally understood that doping is simply not acceptable to the world as a whole. That they should even have been thinking of doping on the back of the debacle which was their home games in Sochi is almost unbelievable. I do believe the IOC has pretty well run out of patience with Russia and such action, were wrongdoing to be proven is highly likely.
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Old 10th Feb 2022, 19:15
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
I don't buy the "dislike for the Chinese government" argument. The sport loving public doesn't really care about the politics, its about be sport. Personally I am more concerned about the absurdity of holding the alpine and nordic events in what is essentially a "snow desert" and the environmental cost of doing so, but it clearly doesn't stop me watching the events since what is done is done, and I can change nothing by not watching.
We can debate the reasons endlessly, but it's getting worse. The first week ratings are less than half relative to 2018 - making these (at least so far) the least watched televised Winter Olympics is US History. Pretty astounding when you remember the population has nearly doubled since they started televising the Olympics here.
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Old 10th Feb 2022, 23:04
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Iím sorry to hear that the 15 year old wonder child was the one that tested positive, but apparently the test was from December, so why the delay?

Even though she may be aware of a lot at age fifteen, I assume she takes whatever food or vitamins, doped or not, that they give her.

If she was doped, and they say that this drug wouldnít have improved her performance other than keeping her more alert, isnít this a failure on Russiaís part, given that they have a long history of doping and knowing how to beat drug tests?

She has been brilliant on the ice, far beyond what drugs /doping could accomplish.
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Originally Posted by tdracer View Post
We can debate the reasons endlessly, but it's getting worse. The first week ratings are less than half relative to 2018 - making these (at least so far) the least watched televised Winter Olympics is US History. Pretty astounding when you remember the population has nearly doubled since they started televising the Olympics here.
That's not because of a "boycott of the evil CCP regime!" by "good freedom loving Americans."

It's because of a boycott of something else, traditional free to air TV. The decline in free to air viewing of the Olympics between 2018 to today is similar to the decline in general TV viewership across that time. Meanwhile the rapid shift to digital platforms and streaming services is making up for the decline in traditional TV viewers.
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Old 11th Feb 2022, 01:13
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Originally Posted by visibility3miles View Post
Iím sorry to hear that the 15 year old wonder child was the one that tested positive, but apparently the test was from December, so why the delay?

Even though she may be aware of a lot at age fifteen, I assume she takes whatever food or vitamins, doped or not, that they give her.

If she was doped, and they say that this drug wouldnít have improved her performance other than keeping her more alert, isnít this a failure on Russiaís part, given that they have a long history of doping and knowing how to beat drug tests?

She has been brilliant on the ice, far beyond what drugs /doping could accomplish.
Well said.

One would expect, naively perhaps, that by this time the ROC coaches and skating staff would be crossing every T and dotting every i when it comes to prepping their athletes for international competition and properly completing the paperwork. This was is a real shame for she did skate brilliantly. Not sure how any chemical concoction could enhance one's ability once on the ice.

If the ROC offcials are indeed culpable then it is a staggeringly despicable thing to have done for she does seem to be a once in a generation talent.
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Old 11th Feb 2022, 01:34
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Originally Posted by Null Orifice [img]images/buttons/viewpost.gif[/img]
Anybody else find the yelling and screaming of the female players in the curling annoying?
Yes, almost as annoying as the "yelling and screaming" and grunting and groaning in tennis.
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Old 11th Feb 2022, 02:20
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Originally Posted by dr dre View Post
That's not because of a "boycott of the evil CCP regime!" by "good freedom loving Americans."

It's because of a boycott of something else, traditional free to air TV. The decline in free to air viewing of the Olympics between 2018 to today is similar to the decline in general TV viewership across that time. Meanwhile the rapid shift to digital platforms and streaming services is making up for the decline in traditional TV viewers.
Sorry, but that explanation simply doesn't fly. NBC controls 100% of the Olympic rights in the US. Streaming must be done through NBC's Paramount streaming service - and those numbers are included in the total viewership numbers (which, in addition to the broadcast NBC network, includes the cable/satellite only CNBC and USA networks).
The simple explanation is that much of the general public in the US have simply lost interest in the Olympic games. Again, the why is open to debate, but it's very clearly the case.
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Old 11th Feb 2022, 10:54
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Fun fact, that was Norway's 200 Olympic gold medal summer and winter combined.
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Old 11th Feb 2022, 14:20
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Originally Posted by tdracer View Post
Sorry, but that explanation simply doesn't fly. NBC controls 100% of the Olympic rights in the US. Streaming must be done through NBC's Paramount streaming service - and those numbers are included in the total viewership numbers (which, in addition to the broadcast NBC network, includes the cable/satellite only CNBC and USA networks).
The simple explanation is that much of the general public in the US have simply lost interest in the Olympic games. Again, the why is open to debate, but it's very clearly the case.
But youíre not including YouTube, Tiktok, Facebook, Instagram views. Some of those social media sites can rack up millions of views, adding to the lost TV viewer numbers, and like the expert in the article I linked said this may be the most watched Olympics in history.

Habits have changed. Itís not like 30 years ago when you all sat down in front of the TV at night and all argued over what program to watch together, then you watched the program in itís entirety form start to finish. Now you can access a clip of highlights or significant moments instantly on a mobile device. Itís radically changed the nature of viewing.
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Old 11th Feb 2022, 17:08
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I did pay NBC’s pay per view channel Peacock the $4.99 (but actually, it was more than advertised, due to taxes or fees?) in order to watch the Olympics “live” or “on demand.”

I’m disappointed that I have to plow through a lot of commercials on their paid platform, but at least I can switch over to the internet and read PPRuNe or whatever while waiting for the repetitive commercials to end.

It still seems limited in terms of what sports they feature.
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Old 11th Feb 2022, 18:21
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Originally Posted by dr dre View Post
But you’re not including YouTube, Tiktok, Facebook, Instagram views. Some of those social media sites can rack up millions of views, adding to the lost TV viewer numbers, and like the expert in the article I linked said this may be the most watched Olympics in history.

Habits have changed. It’s not like 30 years ago when you all sat down in front of the TV at night and all argued over what program to watch together, then you watched the program in it’s entirety form start to finish. Now you can access a clip of highlights or significant moments instantly on a mobile device. It’s radically changed the nature of viewing.
You're not paying attention - NBC has exclusive rights in the US (they paid massive money for it - on the order of a billion dollars). YouTube, Tiktok, etc. in the US are not allowed to carry anything same day or they can (and will) get sued for hundreds of millions by NBC. Anything that appears on those platforms gets promptly removed by the moderators.
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Old 12th Feb 2022, 08:58
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Old 12th Feb 2022, 09:04
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Originally Posted by tdracer View Post
You're not paying attention - NBC has exclusive rights in the US (they paid massive money for it - on the order of a billion dollars). YouTube, Tiktok, etc. in the US are not allowed to carry anything same day or they can (and will) get sued for hundreds of millions by NBC. Anything that appears on those platforms gets promptly removed by the moderators.
And of course there is no way at all for someone to pretend that their computer is not in the US and access the live streams anyway!!!
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Old 12th Feb 2022, 11:41
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Old 12th Feb 2022, 19:35
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Originally Posted by tdracer View Post
You're not paying attention - NBC has exclusive rights in the US (they paid massive money for it - on the order of a billion dollars). YouTube, Tiktok, etc. in the US are not allowed to carry anything same day or they can (and will) get sued for hundreds of millions by NBC. Anything that appears on those platforms gets promptly removed by the moderators.
Perhaps a lot of viewers are using a VPN to watch coverage from somewhere else and, by doing so, are minimizing the onslaught of commercials?
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Old 12th Feb 2022, 20:11
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Brilliant result for the Boe brothers, tomorrow's pursuit looks like a procession for the medal positions. The small number of 100% in the shooting was quite surprising.

Congratulations to Lindvig in the HS140, I couldn't see beyond Kobayashi for the gold.

Who is your money on for ski jumping team competition? I think it's between Austria and Slovenia.


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Old 13th Feb 2022, 00:55
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The simple explanation is that much of the general public in the US have simply lost interest in the Olympic games. Again, the why is open to debate, but it's very clearly the case
Seeing an American born woman of Chinese decent winning gold for China doesn't promote interest. She holds dual citizenship, but China doesn't allow that, except when it's to their benefit of course.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-...ally/100818506
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Old 13th Feb 2022, 01:37
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At least she is actually a citizen of both. Quite a few countries, for example my Canada sell off citizenship to athletes at the drop of the hat. I would say the majority of summer Olympic athletes Canada sends are opportunistic citizens. Most from the Caribbean nations and couldnít make it on their own countries team so the Canadians give them a Canadian passport to compete for them.

I would imagine there are many other countries that do the same. Itís not right, but I guess as long as there is no rule against it then I understand it.
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Old 13th Feb 2022, 01:44
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
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Brilliant result for the Boe brothers, tomorrow's pursuit looks like a procession for the medal positions. The small number of 100% in the shooting was quite surprising.

Congratulations to Lindvig in the HS140, I couldn't see beyond Kobayashi for the gold.

Who is your money on for ski jumping team competition? I think it's between Austria and Slovenia.


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I think you're on to something, Norway as an outsider. My fingers are crossed.
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Old 13th Feb 2022, 01:46
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Originally Posted by megan View Post
Seeing an American born woman of Chinese decent winning gold for China doesn't promote interest. She holds dual citizenship, but China doesn't allow that, except when it's to their benefit of course.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-...ally/100818506
Sport washing, look at summer sports. Turkey and Arab countries buying athletes and providing citizenship. Not to mention football prostitutes. Money talks.
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