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Old 28th Sep 2021, 11:45
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Looks to me like a very successful protest. They are getting loads of media attention and their cause is front page news.
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Old 28th Sep 2021, 12:14
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Yes, I am sure the family of the stroke victim who is now paralysed because the ambulance could not get to hospital quickly, owing to a traffic jam caused by these protesters, are very impressed.

I was working in France many years ago when French lorry drivers engaged in a strike. They blocked junctions and roundabouts to prevent other big trucks moving, but deliberately left gaps for cars and emergency vehicles to pass.
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Old 28th Sep 2021, 16:00
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https://thepostmillennial.com/stroke...ip-to-hospital

link to the sad tale

And people on here think they should not be in jail!
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Old 28th Sep 2021, 16:50
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Originally Posted by Avionker View Post
Looks to me like a very successful protest. They are getting loads of media attention and their cause is front page news.
Surely protests such as those being carried out by Insulate Britain can only be defined as successful if they succeed in getting some or all of their aims addressed.
As it stands, all the the protesters appear to have done is to alienate quite a large percentage of the UK population and have done nothing that has resulted in any action to aid their cause.
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Old 28th Sep 2021, 17:16
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Yes, it has all been very successful........zero response from the Government as expected and alienated the general public.

Glue sales have gone up though, albeit slightly.

Maybe they should now move to garage forecourts and glue themselves to the pump handles or to supermarkets and glue themselves to the checkouts.

Where's Harry Callahan when you need him.
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Old 28th Sep 2021, 17:27
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Originally Posted by Avionker View Post
Looks to me like a very successful protest. They are getting loads of media attention and their cause is front page news.
Yeah, the Yorkshire Ripper and Fred West got front page exposure as well, the media report on anything that makes headlines. I suggest it's not to the IB's benefit either. I wouldn't be surprised if more than 95% of the British population have got no time for these activists. I don't know anyone in my social sphere that supports them. They've defeated themselves and their credibility is paper-thin.
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Old 28th Sep 2021, 21:14
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Nutoose,

My only complaint about them being sent to jail is that these days, I feel jail sentences for crimes of violence (which this was) , extreme theft etc get sentences that are far too short.. A woman is paralysed because she couldn't be got to hospital? A minimum of 25 years and and at least £50,000 compensation.is more to the point - from every one of the evil bastards concerned!

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Old 28th Sep 2021, 21:42
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Has anyone else found an independent source with any more details on this story about the women left paralyzed? Every mention I have found is basically just quoting the LBC interview verbatim.

No surname given, no information of which hospital he was going to, no reason given for why an ambulance was going to take too long.

The London Ambulance service say they were experiencing no delays.

Not to say it isnít true but I think Iíll wait for confirmation before jumping on the outrage bus.
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Old 28th Sep 2021, 23:13
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Originally Posted by Avionker View Post
Looks to me like a very successful protest. They are getting loads of media attention and their cause is front page news.
A protest can only have a chance of success if it has the support of the people. If the people donít support it then the government is right in ignoring it.

You want to get your message out there. You want to disruptÖbut you need to disrupt the right people. Disrupt the wrong people and your message is worse than ignored, it is disdained.

I have always agreed with the right to a peaceful protest, but not anywhere you like. I would say a law designating certain areas as the only place you are allowed to protest. Public places like Hyde park for instance (and only in certain areas of the park). If your cause is worthy enough to the public it will make the news. If it isnít it wonít.
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Old 29th Sep 2021, 10:06
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A year ago, another protest, but what a shot.. good to see someone coaning off the danger area
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Old 1st Oct 2021, 00:16
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...ion/ar-AAP0ILD

Ministers have now given orders to seek sweeping new legal moves against the eco-activists, in the form of a tougher and far more wide-ranging injunction. Miss Patel has also instructed police chiefs to look at charging protesters with road traffic offences such as Ďcausing danger to road usersí that could see them imprisoned for up to seven years.

Such a lengthy jail term would place convicted protesters in jeopardy of losing their livelihoods and their homes.
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Old 1st Oct 2021, 00:47
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If they glue them selves to the roads, what is wrong with leaving them there/ move enough to have one lane clear and leave them - come rain, frost, sun. If both hands are glued, they will have fun having a pee or a sh*t, won't they? Of course, with hands glued,, they'll have troubles drinking. So nice helpful coppers going round offering drips through tubes would be a good idea....
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Old 1st Oct 2021, 01:27
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Originally Posted by Avionker View Post
Has anyone else found an independent source with any more details on this story about the women left paralyzed? Every mention I have found is basically just quoting the LBC interview verbatim.

No surname given, no information of which hospital he was going to, no reason given for why an ambulance was going to take too long.

The London Ambulance service say they were experiencing no delays.

Not to say it isnít true but I think Iíll wait for confirmation before jumping on the outrage bus.
The fact that this sort of outcome is quite likely and the protestors not in the least concerned if it is should be sufficient to board the outrage bus.
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Old 1st Oct 2021, 08:37
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Originally Posted by Hadley Rille View Post
The fact that this sort of outcome is quite likely and the protestors not in the least concerned if it is should be sufficient to board the outrage bus.
Thatís a no then?
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Old 1st Oct 2021, 10:48
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Originally Posted by Avionker View Post
Has anyone else found an independent source with any more details on this story about the women left paralyzed? Every mention I have found is basically just quoting the LBC interview verbatim.

No surname given, no information of which hospital he was going to, no reason given for why an ambulance was going to take too long.

The London Ambulance service say they were experiencing no delays.

Not to say it isn’t true but I think I’ll wait for confirmation before jumping on the outrage bus.
While I'd stop short of calling BS, it does seem very strange that if "Chris" was really stuck on the M25 for 6 hours, there were no reports in the media from any of the thousands of other drivers who would presumably been sitting in the same jam for the same length of time - missing flights, stranding kids at school, getting out of their cars to chat to each other, taking photos of the chaos - all the stuff that the papers seems to love to publish on those occasions.

In fact no independent corroboration whatsoever.
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Old 1st Oct 2021, 13:17
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A paramedic on a motorcycle could have been dispatched if a call to 999 had been made.
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Old 1st Oct 2021, 14:34
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Originally Posted by Avionker View Post
Thatís a no then?
Could well be. As I showed, your point is moot.
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Old 1st Oct 2021, 15:21
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Originally Posted by Hadley Rille View Post
The fact that this sort of outcome is quite likely and the protestors not in the least concerned if it is should be sufficient to board the outrage bus.
In as much as unsubstantiated reports of a fuel shortage provide the justification for the panic buying and associated disruption?

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Old 1st Oct 2021, 15:30
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Originally Posted by Hadley Rille View Post
Could well be. As I showed, your point is moot.
Really? You think?

Letís look at this from the other side. By bringing stretches of motorway to a standstill how many serious or fatal accidents have been prevented?

I mean, accidents are likely to happen arenít they? And no one is praising the protesters for preventing them.
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Old 1st Oct 2021, 16:01
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Originally Posted by Avionker View Post
Really? You think?

Letís look at this from the other side. By bringing stretches of motorway to a standstill how many serious or fatal accidents have been prevented?

I mean, accidents are likely to happen arenít they? And no one is praising the protesters for preventing them.
Only when the entire motorway is at a standstill. Till then there's a continuous flow of high speed traffic arriving at a stationary queue of cars. Probably more dangerous than the normal situation.
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