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Old 15th Sep 2021, 06:47
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Recently, I tried to buy a couple of 20L Jerry Cans and found that the nearest stockists to me in the West Country were an hour away. One supplier only had a single can in stock so I resorted to the large south American river site. I even tried the ex military hardware market but they were asking 75% more that the brand new price and would have to order them in.

The global supply chain is royally screwed at the moment. With freight trains now running from China to the UK, the speed and certainty has been proven, although I have no idea what the costs per box are in comparison to ships. Has the time now come for a freight line across or under the Bering Strait ?
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Old 15th Sep 2021, 07:42
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Recently, I tried to buy a couple of 20L Jerry Cans and found that the nearest stockists to me in the West Country were an hour away. One supplier only had a single can in stock so I resorted to the large south American river site. I even tried the ex military hardware market but they were asking 75% more that the brand new price and would have to order them in.

The global supply chain is royally screwed at the moment. With freight trains now running from China to the UK, the speed and certainty has been proven, although I have no idea what the costs per box are in comparison to ships. Has the time now come for a freight line across or under the Bering Strait ?
An interesting idea, but one that has surely past its political sell by date. I can also guess what the Russians and Chinese would do about the people trying to get to the States and Canada by non-Legal means.

Post-Brexit it is now more pressing than ever to get on and finish that tunnel linking us to Peru
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Commercial ideas never have a sell by date when there is a dollar to be turned. As for the security question, they seem to manage ok elsewhere.
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Old 15th Sep 2021, 11:17
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The global supply chain is royally screwed at the moment. With freight trains now running from China to the UK, the speed and certainty has been proven, although I have no idea what the costs per box are in comparison to ships. Has the time now come for a freight line across or under the Bering Strait ?
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What ever happened to that service ? I vaguely remember the fanfare of it arriving in Stratford, London and then there seemed to be less and less heard about it. I did wonder about the economics of the realistic load, it's not as if they could hitch 200 containers to it like in the USA and they even use double-decker wagons.
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Old 15th Sep 2021, 11:34
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As for the security question, they seem to manage ok elsewhere.
Really? Thought non-legal migration and what to do about those trying it was one of the most challenging issues of the age with most current measures being highly controversial.

A propos tunnels, one under the Gibraltar Straits is probably only a matter of time. Bearing Straits next century stuff.

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Old 15th Sep 2021, 12:14
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Originally Posted by Torquetalk View Post
An interesting idea, but one that has surely past its political sell by date. I can also guess what the Russians and Chinese would do about the people trying to get to the States and Canada by non-Legal means.

Post-Brexit it is now more pressing than ever to get on and finish that tunnel linking us to Peru
The China train is very expensive compared with shipping so bearing in mind the end price for some of the junk that is shipped that precludes the train. Also it often runs a little late I am told, days not hours in that respect, mostly due to issues further East than the Channel 🙂

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Old 15th Sep 2021, 12:23
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Originally Posted by SpringHeeledJack View Post
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What ever happened to that service ? I vaguely remember the fanfare of it arriving in Stratford, London and then there seemed to be less and less heard about it. I did wonder about the economics of the realistic load, it's not as if they could hitch 200 containers to it like in the USA and they even use double-decker wagons.
It seems to be thriving. Now if you could get sixpence back on returning the empties ...........

New Silk Road in 2020: Covid-19, increased traffic and empty containers | RailFreight.com
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Old 15th Sep 2021, 18:14
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He should be as its his job.
Sorry, didn't mean to imply his thoughts would be anything but 100% correct, but rather I was expressingbmy wonderment in that we are witnessing a four-fold increase in shipping rates. Talk about throwing a spanner in the works of the global supply chain.
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Old 15th Sep 2021, 20:54
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Originally Posted by Mr Mac View Post
The China train is very expensive compared with shipping so bearing in mind the end price for some of the junk that is shipped that precludes the train. Also it often runs a little late I am told, days not hours in that respect, mostly due to issues further East than the Channel 🙂

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😆 Just how far East I wonder. The cost factor makes complete sense. I should have thought that “speed“ was the train‘s big advantage, but that the link is more political than purely logistical at this point.
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